GW2 on schedule 2011 and cross platform

[Llŷr]

I'd love a PS3 port... assuming both PC and PS3 players connect to the same servers and can play together.

[Fox]

I have a PS3, but would still buy it on a PC because a few years from now Sony will make a new console that might not be backwards compatible, while my new pc a few years from now will be.

Plus a mouse rocks over a D-pad, unless they take away the skill bar and click to target.

[MisterB]

GW1 can be mapped to a Sony DualShock controller; I've done it. XBox and 360 pads have the same number of buttons in a different layout. Use combo triggers to shift state, like the CTRL, ALT, or Shift key on keyboards. Of course I eliminated some commands to do that, but I could still map another 20 or so commands if I wanted to go nuts with more combo triggers. I only played GW with a keyboard and mouse for an hour or two. KBM is superior to my profile for control, but it doesn't make any significant difference in PvE. Casual PvP poses no problem either.

It would be easier for me to use a controller on a PC because of complete customization. It's obvious from Regina's statement that GW2 is exclusively a PC product for now, and any console port would likely be at a later release date. I highly doubt that the release date for PC will be affected.

[PwnyRide]

Originally Posted by Chalky

You do have a PC though right? You're not posting this from your iPhone with your PC in 17 different pieces scattered around your room?

Think for a moment.

Originally Posted by Naoroji

... Wait, what? Ever heard of money? As far as I know, the PS3 is one of the best 'computers', quality/cost ratio-wise,... And even if it isn't, it's much cheaper to just buy a console and just be done with it, unlike the PC, where if you want to play it on max visuals you'd probably have to have a hefty PC (that's probably at least twice/thrice as expensive as a PS3).

Yes, money matters. A lot.

I'm sorry, I missed that post.

Tah dah! Bingo! Hit the nail right on the head. I'm by no means technically savvy, I'm a regular, plain, typical consumer (I'm actually borderline technologically retarded).

If people like me (and there are a lot of us) are given the option of saving money (i.e, purchasing Guild Wars 2 on a console and leaving their PC which is not a gaming rig for things other than gaming, and purchasing Guild Wars 2 on PS3 and going on our merry way), then they will take that route. For people who don't have the money to spend on new video cards, memory upgrades, and anything else that costs an absurd amount of money (and you can't deny that they usually are ridiculously priced), a console port would be the ideal and more importantly easier option.

I'm a fan of Guild Wars, but not as big of a fan to spend more money than the game is worth to even start it up.

Mind you, this is if I was given the opportunity , alas this is an opportunity that is extremely unlikely to arise.



So how many console games have you encountered a Blue Screen of Death with? Yeah, that's what I thought.

[HawkofStorms]

Originally Posted by PwnyRide

So how many console games have you encountered a Blue Screen of Death with? Yeah, that's what I thought.

Lets see... I'm on my second X-Box 360 after the Red Ring of Death. My roommate is on his third....


Consoles are not miracle machines. Many of them nowadays do have downloadable software updates that add to performance, and different versions of the chips. They can have conflicts and problems just as easily as a computer.

[Feathermoore]

Originally Posted by PwnyRide

Think for a moment.



Tah dah! Bingo! Hit the nail right on the head. I'm by no means technically savvy, I'm a regular, plain, typical consumer (I'm actually borderline technologically retarded).

If people like me (and there are a lot of us) are given the option of saving money (i.e, purchasing Guild Wars 2 on a console and leaving their PC which is not a gaming rig for things other than gaming, and purchasing Guild Wars 2 on PS3 and going on our merry way), then they will take that route.

So how many console games have you encountered a Blue Screen of Death with? Yeah, that's what I thought.

My computer has crashed, in totaly, less than any console I have ever owned. Ever.

Not only that, but upgrading a hoe computer to be able to play games midline quality is actually cheaper than buying a high end console (it was when the first came out no contest, until just recently it wasn't a contest at all). Everyone has a computer, people are just too scared to mod it themselves or don't know how to do the research with parts.

In pure economics, computers are cheaper than consoles in the long run.

[Khaal]

Originally Posted by PwnyRide

So how many console games have you encountered a Blue Screen of Death with? Yeah, that's what I thought.

I remember blowing into the cartridge (and the console) to get the game to work...

[PwnyRide]

Originally Posted by Feathermoore

Everyone has a computer, people are just too scared to mod it themselves or don't know how to do the research with parts.

The consumer shouldn't have to mod it themselves or research with parts. The consumer wants to buy a game, and then play it, without all the hassle in between which is where, ideally, console versions would be the choice of the majority. And if we don't want to do it ourselves or, more importantly, are too afraid to, we need to pay someone else to do it, which costs what? More money.

(And what with Xbox360 being as poorly manufactured as it is, it's not so much surprising that people have run into so many problems.)

[Sabre Wolf]

Originally Posted by PwnyRide

The consumer shouldn't have to mod it themselves or research with parts. The consumer wants to buy a game, and then play it, without all the hassle in between which is where, ideally, console versions would be the choice of the majority.

So when the next game comes along for PS4... you will have to buy a new system since your PS3 can not play it. And oh BTW, you have to keep the PS3 system also since the PS4 does not have backward compatibility. So now you have to have 2 different consoles to play all your games crammed under your TV.

Or you could instead upgrade a CPU for better GFX and such which will play all the new stuff along with the old games.

Half of one, dozen of the other... works out about the same in the end.

[Chalky]

Originally Posted by Ballista

I take their unquoted stuff with a huge grain of salt, but direct quotes from developers, programmers, etc. are typically okay to accept (most of which I have also found on thisisgame.com).

And on a side note: Chalky?! From Aionsource?! I believe I spent a few minutes yesterday trying to convince the arbitrarily argumentative dips in the NCsoft earnings thread how your comment was absolutely relevant and correct for the sales period profits. (IE I'm your number one fan).

Haha. That thread reminded me about the down side of being a moderator - the inability to properly scream at people for being completely stupid about something.

Hi, by the way

Originally Posted by PwnyRide

[if you buy a console you don't need to upgrade to play on max settings, but if you buy a PC (and a PC only game) you do]

Sorry for the paraphrase, but that's the jist of your point, yeah?

The fact that you own a console isn't the reason you can play it on max settings without upgrading. It's the fact that the game developers have made no effort to improve their graphics for the last 5 years because if they did, it wouldn't work on your crappy 5 year old console.

All you are doing here is advocating the crippling of game engines to fit in with the restrictive and static hardware requirements of ageing consoles.

And you know what? If the developers are willing to completely gimp their game, you'll be able to play it on max settings on your PC too without upgrading!

Look everyone! Yeah, the graphics look like exactly the same as games did 5 years ago, but all the sliders are on max!!! Woo! Max sliders! #1 most important feature.

So how many console games have you encountered a Blue Screen of Death with? Yeah, that's what I thought.

Hey, check it out, the Xbox360 has a red ring on it and it just won't turn on any more...

It's almost as if computer hardware sometimes has faults or something!

[Sabre Wolf]

Missed this quote, thanks for pointing it out...

Originally Posted by PwnyRide

So how many console games have you encountered a Blue Screen of Death with? Yeah, that's what I thought.

Nintendo... PS1... N64...

A computer is a computer is a computer... whether its a PC, MAC, Playstation, XBOX, Wii, Sega, Jag... its a box with chips and wires... its bound to crap out at some point.

[Edge]

Originally Posted by PwnyRide

The consumer shouldn't have to mod it themselves or research with parts. The consumer wants to buy a game, and then play it, without all the hassle in between which is where, ideally, console versions would be the choice of the majority. And if we don't want to do it ourselves or, more importantly, are too afraid to, we need to pay someone else to do it, which costs what? More money.

(And what with Xbox360 being as poorly manufactured as it is, it's not so much surprising that people have run into so many problems.)

Exactly. In a couple years the console market will probably take over. It's still not as popular here in Europe, and prices are a bit higher in some countries, but in North America and Japan it's a thriving industry that grows rapidly.

[raspberry jam]

Originally Posted by Naoroji

... Wait, what? Ever heard of money? As far as I know, the PS3 is one of the best 'computers', quality/cost ratio-wise,... And even if it isn't, it's much cheaper to just buy a console and just be done with it, unlike the PC, where if you want to play it on max visuals you'd probably have to have a hefty PC (that's probably at least twice/thrice as expensive as a PS3).

Money only matters if you don't have it.

Obtain money. It's easier than you think. Also, you don't need that much. For the cost of a PS3 + a nice TV to play on + a crappy PC to surf the web on + a crappy monitor for said PC, you can instead buy a pretty good gaming PC + a rather excellent monitor to play on.

Originally Posted by PwnyRide

So how many console games have you encountered a Blue Screen of Death with? Yeah, that's what I thought.

Xbox 360 version



PS3 version

[Etta]

Now, can someone ask for a Mac version so this thread would be complete.

[raspberry jam]

Mac version assumes user haven't mastered the difficult "reboot computer" move



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[Chalky]

Originally Posted by Etta

Now, can someone ask for a Mac version so this thread would be complete.

If someone does that I'm going to ask for it to be playable on my toaster since that's another thing not marketed as being able to play games.

[Mercesa]

People are complaining about buying a pc and then UPGRADE it AGAIN ?

Wtf my pc costs 600 euro Including keyboard mouse etc., My screen costs 200 euro.
I can play all games at high quality no problem, Never even had to upgrade my pc.

How much you pay for that big ps3 and that television screen ?

Then I also forgot that you probably bought a controller so yeah what the heck.

[pumpkin pie]

Not complaining when Guild Wars 2 is going to be release, but how is it on schedule when there never was a release date to begin with?

[Chalky]

Originally Posted by Praadur

--RE Chalky

Seriously dude. Every time you do this bloody irritating thing, dozens of lines of code behind the "Quote Reply" button cry a thousand tears.

Anyway, fortunately in this case I am the person you are replying to, so I don't need to scroll all the way up and try to work out what you are talking about, like I do with every other reply you make.

Yes, Macs can play a handful of games. Really, not very many. A teeny tiny percentage. Even of newly released games, barely any have proper Mac support.

Sure, it would be nice if they could easily add Mac support, but if they decide it's impractical then "fair enough" is the only reasonable response. Macs are not gaming systems, they are artistic systems.

If you want to play games and you bought a Mac to do it on, then you bought the wrong product.

[Al_Capowned]

Originally Posted by Khaal

I remember blowing into the cartridge (and the console) to get the game to work...

That's an old Nintendo trick

My mother would bug out when she'd find me in the living room blowing into the Nintendo trying to get it to work. I bet she thought I had problems

Originally Posted by Sabre Wolf

So when the next game comes along for PS4... you will have to buy a new system since your PS3 can not play it. And oh BTW, you have to keep the PS3 system also since the PS4 does not have backward compatibility. So now you have to have 2 different consoles to play all your games crammed under your TV.

Or you could instead upgrade a CPU for better GFX and such which will play all the new stuff along with the old games.

Half of one, dozen of the other... works out about the same in the end.

every version of the PS3 other than the bottom of the line one can play PS2 games...what is your basis for saying there is no backward compatibility? The PS3 is a completely different system than the PS and the PS2...I doubt very much that the PS4 will be much different than the PS3.