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Old Aug 29, 2009, 03:21 PM   #41
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And talking about something else...

Primordus powered the Asura gate network.

He woke up, so I doubt he's powering the gate network anymore, so what is?
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Old Aug 29, 2009, 03:25 PM   #42
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Its never explicitly stated Primordus powered the gates. Vekk implies they built it there for convenience, not to leech off his power completely. And even if he had been powering it, 100+ years is more than enough time for the Asura to start thinking about new power sources.
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Old Aug 29, 2009, 03:36 PM   #43
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Beyond that, the Tarnished Coast is riddled with magic (how else would rocks be floating?) and they have been experimenting with the bloodstones. I wouldn't be surprised if they raided the Bloodstone Caves to such a point that they use portions or even the whole bloodstone for power. It wouldn't be impossible for them to move the bloodstone via magic (and lots of golems) either. Though getting it across the Sea of Sorrows would be troublesome.
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Old Aug 29, 2009, 03:54 PM   #44
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Do you think it is possible to tear apart a bloodstone to use as batteries? I mean, wouldn't the Gods have made sure to make it unbreakable or something so the Asura or any other creature couldn't use it in that fashion?
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Old Aug 29, 2009, 04:12 PM   #45
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As shown by Gadd, it is possible to extract the essence of the bloodstone. Safer (safest?) to do via crystal. I'd also assume that, due to there being floating portions of the red part of the bloodstone at the bloodstone in Bloodstone Caves, that it can be split if a strong enough force hits it.

However, I'd assume it would be very deadly to do so.
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Old Aug 30, 2009, 09:04 AM   #46
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Beyond that, the Tarnished Coast is riddled with magic (how else would rocks be floating?) and they have been experimenting with the bloodstones. I wouldn't be surprised if they raided the Bloodstone Caves to such a point that they use portions or even the whole bloodstone for power. It wouldn't be impossible for them to move the bloodstone via magic (and lots of golems) either. Though getting it across the Sea of Sorrows would be troublesome.
They'd just need to get it into bits small enough to get through the portal in Gadd's Encampment.

As for the danger part... Get expendable golems to do it?
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Old Sep 05, 2009, 04:16 AM   #47
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Not sure if this needs a whole discussion thread so i put it in here; Anyone know of/what the connection between Cantha and Orr is ? ...
in the Shards of Orr dungeon i found this (see screenshot) rather Canthan looking gate ?! Was Orr a forward colony of Cantha at some point ?
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Old Sep 05, 2009, 04:35 AM   #48
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Anet is known by the constantly reusing of old models. You find a lot of similar models in a lot of different areas in GWEN.

no lore explanation for that, I think.
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Old Sep 05, 2009, 05:07 AM   #49
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So Jormag was the second dragon to wake up. Also interesting about the Sylvari seasons and of course the Nightmare Court. This probably means we were right and that concept art was indeed of a male Sylvari. Though one as to wonder if the Nightmare Court are behind the nightmares or if they formed because of the nightmares.
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Old Sep 05, 2009, 05:24 AM   #50
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Very cool! Although, where can I see those concept arts? I'm going to buy the book, but I can't wait that much!

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Jeff mentioned that there are still some (like Ogden) who didn't change, but they are very few and far between, it seems.
EDIT: Doh! Was just proofreading and saw the "non-deldrimor" part. Jeff talked about the Stone Summit like they are still there, although given Drakkar's rise, I'm wondering if they have become corrupted as well (or rather, MORE corrupted).
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->Konig, draxynnic, Thalador, Leon (dunno who else am I forgetting from the original Guru) guess we were wrong..
Great! But why are we wrong? I think it was only Konig who suggested and implied that the Stone Summit have died out.
I hope they are not corrupted, or if they are, it's only a part of them. I really want to have the Dwarven race as playable.

@Eliz Great finds! But where did you get them? I couldn't find them in the 'Guild Wars 2 at PAX 2009' thread.
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Old Sep 05, 2009, 05:42 AM   #51
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I gave the link in my post :P http://guildwars.incgamers.com/showthread.php?t=491152

Iirc, in the Guru thread 'Dwarves - a possibility' we said that Ogden implied that he would undergo the rite and all the Dwarven race too, but:
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Jeff mentioned that there are still some (like Ogden) who didn't change,
that makes us wrong.

About the stone summit, it was Konig, but Leon said that it was a general consesus, if I recall.
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Old Sep 05, 2009, 06:03 AM   #52
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Sorry, I'm totally crap today. I had put all of my focus on school, swimming and on the arguement with Leon.

Now I see. It's really good that there are still good dwarves as well.

*prays to god, that dwarves will be a playable race in GW2, or in a later expansion*
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Old Sep 05, 2009, 08:36 AM   #53
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Yeah i was amongst those who thought the Summit had been eradicated in EotN. Its suprising that they are still around though i doubt they are at the same height of power they were in Prophecies, probably a minor threat who have likely been hit by Jormag.
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Old Sep 05, 2009, 09:33 AM   #54
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I gave the link in my post :P http://guildwars.incgamers.com/showthread.php?t=491152

Iirc, in the Guru thread 'Dwarves - a possibility' we said that Ogden implied that he would undergo the rite and all the Dwarven race too, butquote)
that makes us wrong.

About the stone summit, it was Konig, but Leon said that it was a general consesus, if I recall.
Indeed. And, for the record (and to show that I'm willing to stand up for what I've said in the past), I was part of the consensus. Seems ANet isn't willing to let anything just DIE already!

That said, we were working with the material given in Movement of the World, and it seems that in the past couple of years there have been some changes in ANet's plans, so it might be that at the time the material we were working with was published, what we thought was their plan actually had been their plan.
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Old Sep 05, 2009, 09:38 AM   #55
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If that's what happened, then basically the 'Dwarven Lovers (aka QQ'ers about their 'death')' won the struggle for getting them 'alive'.
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Old Sep 05, 2009, 09:54 AM   #56
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Of course, one would ask, why would the Stone Summit Dwarves have been extinct anyway? Just because we kill their last high priest, the hierophant Duncan, doesn't mean that their warriors, females, sons, daughters, workers, slave traders, lawyers, bibliothecars, bakers, brewers and so on would be dead too. Especially the beer brewers. Even if they're evil dwarves, the stone summit probably still dominate the beer sector in all of Tyria.
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Old Sep 05, 2009, 10:06 AM   #57
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Agreed with DeltaEmil. If Koris Deeprunner joins the Stone Summit with his new ale recipe and starts producing it, everyone will re-integrate the Stone Summit into the Tyrian society.
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Old Sep 05, 2009, 12:18 PM   #58
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It's true, I did say it was a general consensus, but, it can be found in one (some?) of the threads here that I also argued to the contrary, that there was in fact the possibility of small pockets of Stone Summit survivors. However, I think it should be noted here that it doesn't appear to be only the Stone Summit that survived, and that there may still be small pockets of Deldrimor Dwarves as well, perhaps having avoided the Rite and corruption by Jormag.

About the Shining Blade being a sort of Royal Guard, I think I was one to suggest that, but, attributing the origin of the idea to myself, I think, would be wrong. Every idea has been thought by someone, it's just who decides to state it or run with it.
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Old Sep 05, 2009, 03:28 PM   #59
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Iirc, in the Guru thread 'Dwarves - a possibility' we said that Ogden implied that he would undergo the rite and all the Dwarven race too, but:
that makes us wrong.

About the stone summit, it was Konig, but Leon said that it was a general consesus, if I recall.
I think it was the poster's addition for the like ogden part. But yeah, it does seem not all the dwarves turned to stone.

And how Stone Summit survived is... just annoying, to be honest. We killed all their leaders, we destroyed their main base, then their "last" base, and they are still around?

They better only show up as ice-covered dwarves.

Anet needs to let some races go to extinction. Next thing we find out, the Margonites are once again prospering in Kormir's new realm even though they cannot reproduce and should be near extinction (meaning only those locked up or turn-coats like the Lost should still live). >_> Mursaat survive, Stone Summit survive, Deldrimor survives in flesh and blood. Fleshreavers survive.
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Old Sep 05, 2009, 06:53 PM   #60
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Anyway Norn-Spirits and Kodan,Asura-Krew and Golem,Sylvari-Seasons and "Druids"(different kind of druids then from GW1),Charr has Legions+unknown companion and Humans?
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