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Rerroll recently started an interesting survey on the official forums trying to gather player opinions on a wide array of hot topics. Some of these are already showing some interesting trends, would you agree warrior is the weakest profession in the game? Or perhaps that Elementalist is the strongest profession?

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If you do not then you are one of the few! Slightly over 50% of the people who replied to the survey would agree to the above statement. The survey brings up a lot of interesting things but if we really want to use this survey for something useful we will need a lot more replies. Head over there and throw in your answers:

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If you are interested in seeing the results in some pretty graphics you can head over here:

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#1 Venereus

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 08:19 PM

Democracy has failed us again.

#2 Azure Skye

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 08:20 PM

[quote name='Venereus' timestamp='1363897185' post='2182183']
Democracy has failed us again.
[/quote]How did it fail? o.O

#3 ShezuTsukai

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 08:41 PM

Thanks for posting here. The data is already starting to even out with a higher sample rate. Warrior is weak but not significantly more so than ranger or possibly Necro in PvP.

#4 Dzekis Cians

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 08:45 PM

I kill many people and have good survability with condition warrior

#5 Rerroll

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 08:47 PM

Thanks for sharing it here. Since you shared many new people has participated

#6 kendro1200

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 08:49 PM

Too many whiney warriors participated in the survey =/

#7 Keaghan

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 08:55 PM

For a second I thought this was for PvE, and I was going to say that. WDF WARRIOR/GUARDIAN WEAK.

Let's make OP class more OP.

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As I don't PvP, I won't participate in it. Though in WvW, I can handle myself fairly well against multiple enemies, and Warrior are great against zergs when it comes to defending your keep with your Keep Lord. TW + HB/WW will make that zerg hurt always.

#8 ZCKS

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 09:14 PM

[quote name='Venereus' timestamp='1363897185' post='2182183']
Democracy has failed us again.
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This ^, the people saying warriors are weak obviously have no idea how to use them properly.

Warriors are offensive killing machines & are really quite balanced.

The only area they are in any way weak is consistent condition removal. Even then thieves & rangers have it worse.

If they do end up increasing warriors ability to counter conditions they will probably end up having to reduce their offensive capabilities in some way otherwise they will become the obvious go to class for PVP & PVE.

#9 Cake is Cake

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 09:28 PM

ITT: People who don't sPvP who think that warriors are balanced in sPvP

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 09:32 PM

Warriors are definitely the weakest, but I think Guardian/Ele/Mesmer/Thief are tied for strongest. All 4 of those classes are in a good spot PvP-wise, now we just need Warriors, Engies, Rangers, and Necros to get buffed up to those classes' levels.

#11 ZCKS

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 10:01 PM

[quote name='Cake is Cake' timestamp='1363901289' post='2182227']
ITT: People who don't sPvP who think that warriors are balanced in sPvP
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[quote name='NuclearDonut' timestamp='1363901532' post='2182229']
Warriors are definitely the weakest, but I think Guardian/Ele/Mesmer/Thief are tied for strongest. All 4 of those classes are in a good spot PvP-wise, now we just need Warriors, Engies, Rangers, and Necros to get buffed up to those classes' levels.
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I won't deny warriors have their share of problems but every class does.

If they end up making said weaknesses too small then they will need to nerf them in some way to maintain some balance.

Or in simple terms if they increase their ability to negate conditions then they need to reduce damage scaling to compensate.

#12 Cake is Cake

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 10:20 PM

Do you think warriors are underpowered in sPvP?

#13 dawdler

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 10:32 PM

I dont really see why the Warrior would be considered that bad? Is it all the people that go "ZOMG100B100B100B100B100B!!!11!" and then come up against a bunker Warrior/Guardian or any other skilled player that can dodge? Because glass cannon narrowminded greatsword fool is the only Warrior build that go down faster than a cheap hooker in my experience, but then there are plenty of other builds that are harder nuts to crack. Yes, even those with greatswords.

I also find it amusing that the Engineer is voted second weakest, when IMO its one of the stronger ones. Perma swiftness+vigor in combat ftw, you can bounce around more than a Thief.

#14 beadnbutter32

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 10:49 PM

Opinion polls about objective competitive sports is meaningless and nothing more than just another meta to game.

Until Anet releases meaningful data from actual competitions, this is all just so much BS.

Why is it so hard to Anet to show a leader board that tallies the win/loss counts by class?

#15 BizzaroDrQuinn

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 10:50 PM

All of these depend on how you build.  You have people voting that have no idea how to properly build a character.  Warrior's also have the largest population so of course they are going to be more votes for them.  Source: [img]http://img.neoseeker.com/mgv/394161/161/32/genderprofessionracecraftinggraph590x378_display.jpg[/img]

I know this is old but i'm sure it still holds true.

#16 ZCKS

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Posted 21 March 2013 - 11:19 PM

[quote name='Cake is Cake' timestamp='1363904458' post='2182259']
Do you think warriors are underpowered in sPvP?
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They have their problems, but I wouldn't go so far as to say underpowered. This is because all their problems can be easily solved by rolling with an ally who makes up for your weaknesses as you make up for his.

For instance, warriors have problems with consistent condition removal & defensive ally support but bring large amounts of damage & or control depending on their set up.
Guardians on the other hand bring a ton of survivability/support & group condition removal skills but they fall behind warriors when it comes to damage.

Neither one has everything on their own but put them together as a team & they will roll right over most enemies.
On the flip side if Anet gives warriors much more condition removal or defensive ally support they will have to nerf damage output or control to compensate which would make them too much like guardians & if they didn't do a nerf they would end up with a class that is too powerful.

[quote name='beadnbutter32' timestamp='1363906187' post='2182276']
Opinion polls about objective competitive sports is meaningless and nothing more than just another meta to game.

Until Anet releases meaningful data from actual competitions, this is all just so much BS.
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In other words this ^.

Until we see actual date from arena.net all this talk of "Who is weaker" is all speculative BS based off of poples opinions & could be coming from terrible players for all we know since absolutely anyone can fill out that form.

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 12:26 AM

[quote name='ZCKS' timestamp='1363903282' post='2182251']
I won't deny warriors have their share of problems but every class does.

If they end up making said weaknesses too small then they will need to nerf them in some way to maintain some balance.

Or in simple terms if they increase their ability to negate conditions then they need to reduce damage scaling to compensate.
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I agree that Warriors shouldn't have everything, but conditions are the least of their problems. The reason Warriors are the best in PvE and WvW but the worst in sPvP is because of the conquest-centered PvP meta. Right now, roamers/bursters and bunkers are the 2 ways to roll because of the focus on point control. Warriors are outbunkered by Eles and Guards, and are out-damaged/roamered by Thieves. This is not a problem exclusive to Warriors. Engies, Necros, and Rangers are also outclassed in many ways, but Warriors have it the worst. And of course, us Mesmers can do it all (I've been expecting to get nerfed for a while now). I don't want Warriors to turn into Mesmers, but I would like them to have something unique to bring to the table.

#18 RecentlyTaken

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 12:09 PM

Only 54% voted warrior? Should be more.

It really doesn't take that much effort to find out. You can roll a char of any class, just get it to lvl 2 and then play sPvP. I made an alt of each class and played them all quite a bit (bought some char slots for it - Best way to learn to fight any class is to play that class and discover its weakness from its perspective). Warrior is by far the weakest class in sPvP; the more organized the team you play against, the worse it gets.

Eng is the only other class that is also low tier. Mes/Guard/Ele/Thief are top tier and always viable. Ranger/Necro are more niche and have a more focused role, but still playable. Warrior is completely useless, and engie is just a worse version of either a guardian or ranger depending on your build.

#19 Eon Lilu

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 12:12 PM

Mesmer 1%, guardian 1%, I think everyone can agree on those lol. Even though Anet have said they are happy with the guardian at the moment, be interesting to see how hard it will be hit by this new "boon hate" system they might be putting in soon...

#20 Kiva

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Posted 22 March 2013 - 03:33 PM

Are people trolling the survey? How are Warriors seriously the weakest. Certainly there are stronger classes, but they're AT LEAST well within middle range.
Rangers, Necromancers and Engineers are all far weaker.