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ArenaNet has posted a few updates for the BWE on the official forums. Since you need to login to view the forums, here's the run-down:

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Since our last Beta Weekend Event we’ve made quite a few changes and improvements to both the trading post and our world transfer system. We’ll also have special daily sales going on in the Gem Store throughout the Beta Weekend Event. Read on for more information!

Remember: You will be charged for all gem purchases made during the Beta Weekend Event, but any gems you purchase will be credited to your account when GW2 launches. You’ll find all the details right here in our Gem Store FAQ.

World Transfer
World transfer will be free and unlimited from Noon July 20 to 6:00 PM Pacific on July 21. After this period, you’ll need to spend gems for a transfer. Transfers will still be unlimited. The gem costs for a world transfer after 6:00 PM Pacific on July 21:
  • 1800 gems to transfer to a high population world
  • 1000 gems to transfer to a medium population world
  • 500 gems to transfer to a low population world
Trading Post
  • Dyes are now tradable in the Black Lion Trading Post.
  • All items for sale must be posted for a unit price that is above the vendor value of the item (if the item has a vendor value).
Daily Gem Store – 20% Off
Each day during the Beta Weekend Event we’ll offer a different item on sale for 20% off in the Gem Store. All sales begin and end at midnight of each day.
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#1 Massive Jawbone

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:04 PM

That is pretty cool, very considerate of ANet to handle the transfer fees like that.

#2 Omedon

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:04 PM

:) "Dyes are now tradable in the Black Lion Trading Post[color=#111111][font=tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif][size=3]" :) [/size][/font][/color]

[font=tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif][color=#111111][size=3]Bickety bam![/size][/color][/font]
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#3 Porkchop Sandwiches

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:08 PM

[quote name='omedon666' timestamp='1342728291' post='1614068']
:) "Dyes are now tradable in the Black Lion Trading Post"[color=#111111][font=tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif][size=3] :) [/size][/font][/color]

[font=tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif][color=#111111][size=3]Bickety bam![/size][/color][/font]
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Thank goodness! It was so frustrating getting repeat dyes and just throwing them away.

#4 el hefe

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:08 PM

tradable dyes.  hallelujah.

#5 Tamora

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:09 PM

what sense does it make that u have to post items for a higher price than the vendor price? that way the customer is always better off, if he buys from the vendor and the only way to get rid of an item is vendoring it.

#6 Alaroxr

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:12 PM

[quote name='Tamora' timestamp='1342728540' post='1614077']
what sense does it make that u have to post items for a higher price than the vendor price? that way the customer is always better off, if he buys from the vendor and the only way to get rid of an item is vendoring it.
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Elaborate please, I have no idea as to what you are talking about since I'm assuming you're on topic.

#7 Shiren

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:16 PM

Wait.. this seems a bit deceptive. I'm assuming all things purchased with gems will be wiped at the end of BWE3 which would mean any item bought at 20% off is only for three days then it's gone. At launch it will be full price again and you will have to buy it at full price (when you originally bought it at 20% off). I can see a lot of people buying gems solely to take advantage of a 20% off sale (and only deciding gems are worth buying to take advantage of the 20% off) only to find that the situation which they bought gems under is temporary and when they are refunded their gems, they will get 20% less value for their purchase because they will be full price again.

I really hope ArenaNet reconsiders this, there will be a lot of unhappy people spending real money in hopes of taking advantage of the sale only to find out at launch they will lose their items/services purchased while on sale and have to pay the full price to repurchase them. It's a very sneaky way to trick people into spending money in the cash story only to move the goal posts once the gems are refunded.

#8 Matthew Browne

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:17 PM

Finnaly I'll spend a whole afternoon playing with the dyes. Nice move ANet.

#9 Tamora

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:18 PM

[quote name='Alaroxr' timestamp='1342728721' post='1614083']
Elaborate please, I have no idea as to what you are talking about since I'm assuming you're on topic.
[/quote]

i was referring to this line:
[quote]All items for sale must be posted for a unit price that is above the vendor value of the item (if the item has a vendor value).[/quote]

as far as i understand it, if i want to sell an item via the trading post and there somewhere is a vendor selling this item for 50s, then i must not sell this item for less than 50s and 1c. well informed players, which most of the players will be in a short while, wont by that item for more than 50s, so the only way to sell that item for me is to vendor it for the price the vendor gives me, which prolly is more like 1s.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:19 PM

[quote name='Shiren' timestamp='1342728993' post='1614099']
Wait.. this seems a bit deceptive. I'm assuming all things purchased with gems will be wiped at the end of BWE3 which would mean any item bought at 20% off is only for three days then it's gone. At launch it will be full price again and you will have to buy it at full price (when you originally bought it at 20% off). I can see a lot of people buying gems solely to take advantage of a 20% off sale (and only deciding gems are worth buying to take advantage of the 20% off) only to find that the situation which they bought gems under is temporary and when they are refunded their gems, they will get 20% less value for their purchase because they will be full price again.

I really hope ArenaNet reconsiders this, there will be a lot of unhappy people spending real money in hopes of taking advantage of the sale only to find out at launch they will lose their items/services purchased while on sale and have to pay the full price to repurchase them. It's a very sneaky way to trick people into spending money in the cash story only to move the goal posts once the gems are refunded.
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I'm going to guess, giving ANet the benefit of very little doubt, that it's going to track how many gems you buy in BWE3... and that's how many gems you'll have at launch, regardless of how many you used up in the beta.
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Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:20 PM

[quote name='Tamora' timestamp='1342729092' post='1614105']
as far as i understand it, if i want to sell an item via the trading post and there somewhere is a vendor selling this item for 50s, then i must not sell this item for less than 50s and 1c. well informed players, which most of the players will be in a short while, wont by that item for more than 50s, so the only way to sell that item for me is to vendor it for the price the vendor gives me, which prolly is more like 1s.
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Most items that you buy on the trading post will not be available from vendors, vendors do not sell higher level weapons and armor, nor do they sell dyes, this is just to stop the trading post getting cluttered with loot that ought to be merched.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:20 PM

[quote name='Tamora' timestamp='1342729092' post='1614105']
i was referring to this line:


as far as i understand it, if i want to sell an item via the trading post and there somewhere is a vendor selling this item for 50s, then i must not sell this item for less than 50s and 1c. well informed players, which most of the players will be in a short while, wont by that item for more than 50s, so the only way to sell that item for me is to vendor it for the price the vendor gives me, which prolly is more like 1s.
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Probably because not all dyes will be available at the dye seller... and maybe these dye sellers are rare to find, so people who aren't willing to to go and look for them are willing to pay a little extra.

#13 Alaroxr

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:20 PM

[quote name='Tamora' timestamp='1342729092' post='1614105']
i was referring to this line:


as far as i understand it, if i want to sell an item via the trading post and there somewhere is a vendor selling this item for 50s, then i must not sell this item for less than 50s and 1c. well informed players, which most of the players will be in a short while, wont by that item for more than 50s, so the only way to sell that item for me is to vendor it for the price the vendor gives me, which prolly is more like 1s.
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I see your point...

If anything, it should be that you can't sell an item for a cost [i]above[/i] the vendor's price...

This basically says "If you want to sell this item, you have to scam people".

#14 Windwalker64

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:20 PM

[quote name='Tamora' timestamp='1342729092' post='1614105']
i was referring to this line:


as far as i understand it, if i want to sell an item via the trading post and there somewhere is a vendor selling this item for 50s, then i must not sell this item for less than 50s and 1c. well informed players, which most of the players will be in a short while, wont by that item for more than 50s, so the only way to sell that item for me is to vendor it for the price the vendor gives me, which prolly is more like 1s.
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im guessing vendor price means selling vendor price(the price each item displays when you hower over it) which is less than what vendors sell it for
Edit:also it clearly states vendor VALUE in the post

#15 llwydakers

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:22 PM

[quote name='Tamora' timestamp='1342729092' post='1614105']
i was referring to this line:


as far as i understand it, if i want to sell an item via the trading post and there somewhere is a vendor selling this item for 50s, then i must not sell this item for less than 50s and 1c. well informed players, which most of the players will be in a short while, wont by that item for more than 50s, so the only way to sell that item for me is to vendor it for the price the vendor gives me, which prolly is more like 1s.
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Incorrect, the vendor price is the lower one that the NPC will pay for the same item you just bought from him.  I think it's to protect crafters from "dumping"

#16 ZudetGambeous

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:23 PM

[quote name='Shiren' timestamp='1342728993' post='1614099']
Wait.. this seems a bit deceptive. I'm assuming all things purchased with gems will be wiped at the end of BWE3 which would mean any item bought at 20% off is only for three days then it's gone. At launch it will be full price again and you will have to buy it at full price (when you originally bought it at 20% off). I can see a lot of people buying gems solely to take advantage of a 20% off sale (and only deciding gems are worth buying to take advantage of the 20% off) only to find that the situation which they bought gems under is temporary and when they are refunded their gems, they will get 20% less value for their purchase because they will be full price again.

I really hope ArenaNet reconsiders this, there will be a lot of unhappy people spending real money in hopes of taking advantage of the sale only to find out at launch they will lose their items/services purchased while on sale and have to pay the full price to repurchase them. It's a very sneaky way to trick people into spending money in the cash story only to move the goal posts once the gems are refunded.
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I'm not sure how that is sneaky in the slightest?  It even says in giant bold letters at the top of the page:

"[b]Remember: You will be charged for all gem purchases made during the Beta Weekend Event, but any gems you purchase will be credited to your account when GW2 launches. You’ll find all the details right here in our [url="https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/info/news/Purchasing-Gems-during-Beta-Weekend-3-1"]Gem Store FAQ.[/url]"[/b]

They are discounting items so people get more bang for their buck this weekend so they can have people test more stuff before release.

On another note: "All items for sale must be posted for a unit price that is above the vendor value of the item (if the item has a vendor value)."

I guess this change is to limit people getting taken advantage of by selling things accidentally for much too low. However it is unclear if we can make buy orders for prices under the vendor price???

#17 Imaginos

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:24 PM

[quote name='Tamora' timestamp='1342729092' post='1614105']
i was referring to this line:


as far as i understand it, if i want to sell an item via the trading post and there somewhere is a vendor selling this item for 50s, then i must not sell this item for less than 50s and 1c. well informed players, which most of the players will be in a short while, wont by that item for more than 50s, so the only way to sell that item for me is to vendor it for the price the vendor gives me, which prolly is more like 1s.
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This does seem counter-productive to enticing people to buy your stuff instead of a vendor's stuff, if the vendor sells the same items. They probably did that to prevent people from short changing themselves at the market and others making a profit by buying stuff and vendoring it for more then they paid for but that is a valid marketing strategy.

#18 Massive Jawbone

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:24 PM

[quote name='Shiren' timestamp='1342728993' post='1614099']
Wait.. this seems a bit deceptive. (...)
[/quote]Not at all, as the post states: "[color=#000000][font=CronosPro,][b]but any gems you purchase will be credited to your account when GW2 launches.[/b][/font][/color]"
The gems you purchased, not the gems you spend, get it?

#19 Imaginos

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:25 PM

[quote name='Datenshi92' timestamp='1342729226' post='1614114']
Probably because not all dyes will be available at the dye seller... and maybe these dye sellers are rare to find, so people who aren't willing to to go and look for them are willing to pay a little extra.
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My question is did they do away with the recipes to make your own dye as Cox told us was going to happen.

#20 Tadrith

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:25 PM

[quote name='Tamora' timestamp='1342729092' post='1614105']
as far as i understand it, if i want to sell an item via the trading post and there somewhere is a vendor selling this item for 50s, then i must not sell this item for less than 50s and 1c. well informed players, which most of the players will be in a short while, wont by that item for more than 50s, so the only way to sell that item for me is to vendor it for the price the vendor gives me, which prolly is more like 1s.
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I'm pretty sure it means the price you would get if you sold it to the vendor, not the price the vendor sells it for.  This would be to prevent people from losing money by selling things for less than they could get simply by vendoring it.