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[PvP] Warcraft and GW2 PvP similarities?


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#1 Capochio85

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 02:25 PM

I've never been great at pvp sticking mainly to pve in warcraft...that being said I'm actually really excited about GW2 pvp...I was wondering if "practicing" pvp in warcraft would be any help when the game was released that way I'm not learning new mechanics and how to pvp at the same time...or is the pvp going to be so different that it wouldn't matter...just curious...thanks

#2 Saosin

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 02:39 PM

Well I guess any pvp experience will be useful, but afaik the similarities between wow and gw2 pvp are fairly sparse

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 02:49 PM

I don't think WoW in particular would be a good training tool. WoW would be a great training tool for SWTOR, but GW2 plays very differently than the WoW model. The actual weapon mechanics work too differently and the lack of chain healing requires vastly different playstyles.

Since there are no MMOs out there, that i know about, like GW2, it will be positive to do ANY pvp. It will get you in the mode of fighting other players, learning to respond quickly, teach timing and restraint. In that aspect, any game can work. If I had to think of a specific game i'd actually try something like Halo or BF/CoD. Games that don't have healing, still have the dynamics of PvP and can require a faster pace of fighting, which GW2 seems to have over most MMO PvP. I pick those games over something like CS because in CS you die too fast.

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 02:52 PM

Just playing any MMO should really give you the experience you need.
Because WoW and GW2 are different, you're just going to want to develop some twitch skills and practise using keybindings.

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 02:55 PM

I don't see how PvP'ing in WoW would help because there's just far too many differences. Like the skills, the classes, mobility, etc. The other day I saw this Rift PvP video, where this person demonstrates some high-level techniques that are also used in WoW (e.g. pre-kiting & strafe-kiting) and just looking at the many GW2 PvP matches on youtube, really shows that such techniques won't hold you same value. For one, strafe-kiting in GW2 won't ensure that you can still parry attacks, because there is no parry stat in GW2.

Instead more value will be put into certain factors that are only in GW2 like: learning every professions weapon-set, being able to pull on that information by just looking at your opponent, managing your self-heal & elite skill, dodging.

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 04:41 PM

I'd advice you to try some FPS games or games that train reflexes.
AND as strange as it sounds, try League of Legends(HoN or DotA for harder experience).Altough it's more of a strategy, it really helps with ground positioning skills and with general positioning in combat.

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 05:11 PM

For saying in WoW you have 0 dodge mechanics and don't have to aim to hit an enemy.. I would say playing WoW PvP will have little to no effect when you come to GW2.

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 05:31 PM

ike said:

I'd advice you to try some FPS games or games that train reflexes.
AND as strange as it sounds, try League of Legends(HoN or DotA for harder experience).Altough it's more of a strategy, it really helps with ground positioning skills and with general positioning in combat.

Yeah, DOTA-based games are going to be GREAT training for Structured PvP, no joke.  The 5v5, the positioning, capture points=turrets.  I just hope I don't move my mouse to the edge of the screen expecting to find my foe :p

#9 datsuni

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 05:33 PM

saying that pre kiting wont help in gw is very stupid. Pre kiting will play even bigger role since there is no magical healer behind you that is going to save you from the big melee train. This will obviously vastly increase the meaning of positioning wich basically is pre kiting.

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 06:17 PM

Play TF2, GW2 and TF2 have honestly a lot of similar skills involved.

You can work on the team work with your pals.
You can work on your back pedalling ( aka not doing it a lot )

And the game mode is basically the same ( capture the point etc )

So to be honest, very general ideas work for both.

Working on your reflexes too ( Sniper ? ) Might help and stuff.

I dunno, I know I'm working on not back pedalling all the time lol.
But it honestly doesn't seem THAT bad for Gw2, since everything can be done while moving.

If you back pedal in GW1, then cast a skill, you basically make 0 distance between you and your opponent lol.

#11 Draat

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 06:27 PM

I am traning on WoW and LoL :D since GW2 seems to be mix of those 2 and like Takato said TF 2 has some similarites

#12 Specialz

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 06:31 PM

I think the best game to train would be vindictus in terms of gameplay similarities. As for the pvp, there is no real way to do that because of the way each maps will be setup and the objectives need to do in other to win.

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 06:33 PM

Play a cooldown only based resource champion on LoL, like Garen.  Then when GW2 is released you'll be hiding in bushes like a pro and busting out on unsuspecting noobs screaming, "SPIN2WIN!"

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 07:20 PM

ike said:

I'd advice you to try some FPS games or games that train reflexes.
AND as strange as it sounds, try League of Legends(HoN or DotA for harder experience).Altough it's more of a strategy, it really helps with ground positioning skills and with general positioning in combat.

Yea, MOBA games will be good for you. With their mix of solo and team play and emphasis on positioning it will be good for some of the training. As for gameplay, I don't think I know of anything that plays exactly or closely to GW2. WoW would be fine for PvE for the most part, dungeons are a good way to experience interesting mechanics and playing as a team in PvE. PvP is another story.

So, yea, stick with MOBA games.

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 08:14 PM

Conquest = Arathi Basin

So yeah let's play some WoW guys.

Specialz said:

I think the best game to train would be vindictus in terms of gameplay similarities.
GW2 plays nothing at all like Vindictus.

#16 Gw2forge

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 11:10 PM

Wow and GW2 is different type of MMORPG i dont think we can compare much about them.

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 11:16 PM

Play a sword wielder in Hellgate Global or a melee based scout in Global Agenda.  They are both good action MMOTPS and the melee classes in each should help hone your circle strafe and dodge reflexes.

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 02:28 AM

Best comment about pvp  ever on a WoW forum.

"I really love WoW pvp; I also really love sex with porcupines."

#19 Malchior Devenholm

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 02:41 AM

Faer said:

Conquest = Arathi Basin

So yeah let's play some WoW guys.GW2 plays nothing at all like Vindictus.

Nah, Arathi you actually have to channel the capture.

It's more like Alliance Battles.  You can win without ever fighting :D