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#1 Helliion

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 09:29 PM

what do you guys think of runescape's crafting system and their quest system?
Runescape is one of the first online games i played and is my favorite mmo of all time.
What i enjoy most about RS is their quest system; completing a quest in RS feels very rewarding and accomplishing because of their complexity (instead of being told to go here and kill this 10 times then pick another quest to get 20 feathers from this monster, etc)  
Their crafting system is immersing and complex. To make a cake u have to go to the wheat fields and pick up some wheat then go to a mill to make the flour, then going to a farm and get the eggs, and to get a bucket to milk to cow; performing all these tasks to is more immersing  than simply just buying all the ingredients from a vendor. Another thing i like is that sometimes the crafting process can fail, like overcooking(burnt) the food while cooking. The downside is that sometimes crafting system feels grindy (Woodcutting and mining)

What i don't like about Runescape is that the combat takes no skill. Thus, gear is the dominant determining factor of who's going to win. Due to the fact that most, if not all, high end gear can be trade to other players, money (in game money) can buys skill; this makes the game centered around one's ability to make money and farm. [out of my group of friends that play RS, im the poorest one but i had the most quests complete because they focus mostly on making money in order to faceroll people in pvp. In fact, one of them spends his whole day Merchanting items instead of enjoying the game's contents]

The reason i quit is because of the GM's inability to stop hackers (bot users) and the people that are breaking game rules ( scamming)

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 09:41 PM

Simply putting it, Runescape's quest system is amazing, very few kill ten rat quests. They actually make you think rather than just auto attacking and pressing the heal button. With that being said, their crafting system is boring, crafting there is right clicking and press "make all" and wait 30 seconds to finish, bank those take more materials out, repeat. Combat is boring, very boring, the only skill is pressing your 5 minute cooldown special move that rarely makes a difference in combat, the rest is just auto attack. Death penalty is atrocious, you lose all but three items and often lose your most valuable items. Then there is the economy trouble from "merch clans" who trick people into buying out one item, sell them at an inflated price and everyone else is stuck with useless items. Duels and PK is based all on RNG and it's so severe a level 80 can beat a level 130, the 130 is more likely to win, but the level 80 wins at an alarming rate.

So Runescape's quest/mini-game system is great, everything else I try to stay away from like the plague.

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 09:42 PM

Most of my knowledge about Runescape is that there are a surprising number of homicides over it.

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 10:05 PM

Never liked it, it was just too slow, combat was click, then stand and wait for someone to die. Quests were basically just running around, getting items for someone, or killing 10 things.

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 11:29 PM

I enjoyed it the first few years when it was released. There was many things to do like you said I spent most of my time fishing, killing cows, and at the market.

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Posted 18 February 2012 - 11:30 PM

Runscape is uhm.. Hmm.. Well.. It's not WoW? I guess that is a good thing
In it's early years the Crafting, Harvesting, Questing, Item and Random Event system stood out pretty well

By today's standards it is not very good
  • Dull Combat
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  • Scammers
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  • F2P restrictions (with little to no F2P content updates ever)
    holiday events aside, correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't there only been like 3-4 new permanent F2P quests added within the last 6 or so years? to be honest that is sad
  • Bots(recently addressed?) and multi-client users


I hear Mabinogi and A Mystical Land are good alternative F2P MMOs that give a similar experience to RuneScape
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Personally out of the earliest MMORPGs I ever played; my favorites were Ultima Online, The 4th Coming and Asheron's Call.

Edited by Hika, 19 February 2012 - 01:33 AM.


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 12:22 AM

Runescape was awesome when I was about 11. You could pretty much do anything, and it was fascinating to hear about these things being sold in the market, and hoping one day that you could join them. I did, obviously, and got to about level 86 in the game (I was a member for 1 month). That was probably my third character in Runescape when I took a 6 month break from Guild Wars in... 2007ish?
I logged back in the next year, just to basically give my account away, and I couldn't even give it away. The chat kept blocking my password and the market and trade was so restricted, you couldn't even sell things in bulk (meaning that players had to stand there LONGER). I don't know what happened, but they really did restrict it too much and just killed the entire experience. I understand a lot of people left because of those restrictions. Still, it was an enjoyable experience, despite its flaws. I think the biggest flaw of all was the money system. I mean, seriously, hundreds of millions of gold coins? Can't we have a simpler system? I gave away my level 88 account, anyway, that had a load of stuff in it. I can't remember how I did it, but I managed somehow :p I've never looked back since. It was my first MMO, though.

#8 Helliion

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 01:20 AM

Those restrictions are a lazy way to preventing scams instead of improving security

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 01:23 AM

RS is that  one MMO that everyone has played are has heard about... for that I  would have to say in it's Time It was a good game .. now it fails ...

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 01:28 AM

I always loved this kind of thinking. I used to play it for x years but now when I don;t it sucks. It's the same with WoW and many other games.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 01:50 AM

Combat in Runescape is like crafting in most mmos, click and wait for it to finish.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 02:15 AM

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RS is that  one MMO that everyone has played are has heard about... for that I  would have to say in it's Time It was a good game .. now it fails ...

I agree. While I still have my account I would never go back to seriously play it. I did do the 2011 Christmas event with a friend of mine just to past the time.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 08:19 AM

Most of the quests are good, or at least different than what you see in any other MMORPG.
Skills system isn't bad at the lower levels, you level up pretty fast, unlock new stuff to do all the time. At higher levels it's getting grindy very badly.
It has the worst combat system ever made, so yeah... don't play it for that.=P

What I liked most about the game was that it was a very relaxing game to play, you could play it in small or half screen while reading forums or watching movies / Youtube in another window. Also tons of things to do together with friends, and not just kill stuff or hang around doing nothing like you can only do in other games.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 08:46 AM

All my friends played Maple Story. I couldn't stand it. They couldn't stand RS.

One thing about "click and wait to finish" games: it's real easy to make friends, since talking is a great way to pass the time.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 09:09 AM

Log on now and all you will see is people scamming, ridiculous betting games, and people calling each other noobs.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 09:36 AM

i played it ages ago with a friend. but now that i think about it was mostly me mining something and she sold it and split the coin with me...hmmm...might have to play for real and see if it's actually any good. :)

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 02:23 PM

Aaahhh Runescape... The one and only game that actually has good quests.

Too bad the rest of the game sucks.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 03:55 PM

Uhh I used to play Runescape from 2004 to 2008, then I picked it up again for a short time last year to see the new graphical changes and so on.

The game isn't combat oriented, the PvP system imho was always just dependent on who would be a more cunning player. So organizing an ambush, tricking people using your wits (it was legit), and so on. It also has probably one of the best MMO trading communities, and it had strong trading for a very long time even before they added the Grand Exchange/Auction House. You could learn a thing or two about buying and selling things. I think there was even an article about how bartering in Runescape had a positive effect on the real life aspect of bartering, and how it helped kids in that area. The crafting is simple, though like you said it's well planned out because you have the option of buying the ingredients from other players (promoting trade), or actually having to spend some time walking across the map getting everything yourself. It's also very nice just because it's rewarding right from the start and every level onwards. Everything adjusts to your level most of the time.

It's also a browser game, and that really contributed to it's early success, being one of the first major browser based games.

Edited by Edge, 19 February 2012 - 04:01 PM.


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Posted 18 June 2012 - 09:37 PM

It's a pretty old MMO, browser based and coded off Java. Been around since GW1 and was around before WoW started. Its known for its community with the company and being such a niche MMO, and it also was exclusive to click-to-move. Right now the company is implementing a new combat rework which adds action-bars and new abilities - the basic modernizing of most MMOs. My questions are:

If your an ex-RS player, will you check it out?
If you are new to RS will you try it out?
How do you feel about this browser-based MMO?

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Personally, I'm playing this game again until GW2 comes out. Does anyone here know what I'm talking about and does anyone here play it?

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#20 Kurko

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 10:03 PM

I do, and ive played it on and off from like 2005. I think that if rs was to go full wow style mmorpg it could do very well, even if the game is almost 90% grind. The quests are AMAZING. I havent found anything that comes even close to them. The game is ruined by bots though, even if they help keep the economy friendly for a casual player. Although ive botted myself, and got banned on my main for it, so who am i to talk...Wilderness is something that I havent seen anywhere else aswell, and I think it works ok now, it was way awesome back in the day though, when you didnt get rushed with claws etc.

I've been wondering for sometime now, why won't they develop a new game, a sequel maybe to the current runescape, that has almost the same skill system(less grind), same awesome bosses and quest and a gw2 like combat system. Would be a killer

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 10:40 PM

I used to play it tons a few years ago, was my first ever MMO ever. Quit the game over a year ago, but read the update notes once in a while when I'm bored.
Not sure what the new combat thing is all about, but the problem with RuneScape is that the game design is so outdated and flawed in this day and age, it just won't be able to catch up to today's standards. Yes, they've been trying throughout the years. What happens is that it tries to be more like current MMO's (WoW-like games), yet it'll never reach the quality of those games due to engine limits.
And by making the game more like other games it takes away the thing that actually did make the game unique and stand out from other games. To me it always felt they were stuck inbetween keeping their game in outdated mechanics (which they stay stuck in whether they want it or not anyway) or they remove the unique-ness of the game by making it more like current MMO's (which they'd fail at due to engine limits).
Then there's a lot of other problems with the game, and personal reasons why I'm not interested anymore (mainly killing off Magic tree community and ruining Castle Wars).

Edit: Yes, the game has the best quest system I've seen in an MMO by far.

Edited by Milennin, 18 June 2012 - 10:42 PM.


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Posted 18 June 2012 - 10:47 PM

Good example is wilderness. First completely removing it, making bounty hunter, then removing bounty hunter and bringing the old wilderness back.

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 10:50 PM

View PostKurko, on 18 June 2012 - 10:03 PM, said:

I do, and ive played it on and off from like 2005. I think that if rs was to go full wow style mmorpg it could do very well, even if the game is almost 90% grind. The quests are AMAZING. I havent found anything that comes even close to them. The game is ruined by bots though, even if they help keep the economy friendly for a casual player. Although ive botted myself, and got banned on my main for it, so who am i to talk...Wilderness is something that I havent seen anywhere else aswell, and I think it works ok now, it was way awesome back in the day though, when you didnt get rushed with claws etc.

I've been wondering for sometime now, why won't they develop a new game, a sequel maybe to the current runescape, that has almost the same skill system(less grind), same awesome bosses and quest and a gw2 like combat system. Would be a killer

I got banned for botting as well. I obviously regret doing afterwards, it was foolish and yeah it does ruin the economy like every other game. Back on topic though, this new update is trying to implement a lot of "WoW"-like features. I was reading into the developer notes a little bit more in-depth and they claim there planning to add a lot more items, weapons, bosses, and actual skill - rather than fighting the interface to combat. I agree that the game is mostly grind, but I to pretty much grew up on the game and I've come to like grinding the skills out now. The bots aren't that big of a problem nowadays, they continuously do bot-nukes which help here and there but with this new update its pretty much changing Runescape into WoW, which could be amazing. Bots will die down or out.

And I've thought about them making a new game, but that will probably take ages to do - and most likely they don't have the money anymore to make a game that will compete with Arenanet or Blizzard AAA standards. That being said its still a really enjoyable, casual, and niche type of MMO to play and hopefully this update will make it tenfold better. :)

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 11:02 PM

View Postik7WiZaRD, on 18 June 2012 - 10:50 PM, said:

And I've thought about them making a new game, but that will probably take ages to do - and most likely they don't have the money anymore to make a game that will compete with Arenanet or Blizzard AAA standards. That being said its still a really enjoyable, casual, and niche type of MMO to play and hopefully this update will make it tenfold better. :)

They've been working on Stellar Dawn forever, but for some reason that got put on hold and instead they are now working on a Transformers MMO. I don't know what the hell they think they are doing, but it can't be anything good. Considering how long they've been working on Stellar Dawn, it should be close to being finished. I remember checking their website 2 months into 2012, and they still had the "OUT IN 2011" announcement on their SD homepage.

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 11:28 PM

View PostMilennin, on 18 June 2012 - 11:02 PM, said:

They've been working on Stellar Dawn forever, but for some reason that got put on hold and instead they are now working on a Transformers MMO. I don't know what the hell they think they are doing, but it can't be anything good. Considering how long they've been working on Stellar Dawn, it should be close to being finished. I remember checking their website 2 months into 2012, and they still had the "OUT IN 2011" announcement on their SD homepage.

Lmfao, I actually just read about that Transformers game today. I was actually really into Stellar Dawn before it was scrapped, its a shame really I like the concept of it. I believe they did scrap it, yeah and whatever they made is going towards the Transformers game. I don't know feels like the MMO is aimed towards little kids. I know I won't be playing it, but then again its a separate team in the Jagex department plus people at Hasbro working on it.

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#26 Helliion

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 11:40 PM

They could turn it into a DIABLO LIKE game. LOLOL

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 06:56 AM

The quests were the best i have ever tried. The housing system was amazing too. Its just a shame that the community is so horrible and the skill grinding taking such an effing long time. I still remember the days when i walked around exploring the world, doing quests and upgrading my house. :)

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 12:47 AM

Runescape Classic 1998 to whenever (early, mid 2000s?) was probably my only fun open world pvp experience.

I really enjoyed the 3 round combat system before players could break it off and eat food to heal. If you got a group of rangers/magers with you, the pking was super fun. I played it with real life friends and occasionally we'd communicate over the phone or go to a computer lab where a dad's friend worked (nowadays there's computer labs everywhere, schools, libraries).

Didn't enjoy RS2 much (I guess it's just Runescape now but it will always be Runescape 2 for me).

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 08:22 PM

Just checked out the game again today and the changes are pretty welcome :) It's a lot better than what it used to be. The only thing that threw me off was that they changed the spawn point after the tutorial from Lumbridge to somewhere in the West (west of Varrock, anyway). Still, they added some cool art to the game and it kept me entertained for the better part of this afternoon, which was quite surprising :P

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 09:15 PM

Runescape is extremely good in some ways, and extremely bad in others.

It has fantastic quests. but they are ruined a bit by their antique user interface and their timing mechanism (everything happens in 0.6 second ticks, and only at that time)
The graphics are always behind the game because of the timing system. for instance damage done in combat has already been "done" before the weapon animation has begun.
The combat system in general is absolutely skill-less, it is 95% luck on the dice rolls and 4% menu-navigating and 1% knowledge of game mechanics.

It has a lot of content for what it is, they release something new every week (a lot of the time extremely dissappointing, but there's a couple of gems every year, and not all of it is throw-away content)




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