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#1 4thVariety

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 10:43 PM

There are three things depriving Germans of their sleep. Everybody knows about them, you can have lengthy in-depth discussions about them with every cab driver. It's Inflation, football and the price-performance ratio of things. No surprise the announcement of the different GW2 editions caused a few threads.

But today, I want to take the time to take a real hard look at all the metrics behind a video game price and give you an in depth look at who will get your hard earned cash and what your money actually buys. Hint: It is not just plastic statues.

Full Article: How Expensive is it?

Enjoy.

Edited by 4thVariety, 16 March 2012 - 10:47 PM.


#2 Matsy

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 10:44 PM

Erm, getting,

Du verfügst nicht über die Notwendigen Rechte um diese Seite anzuzeigen.

Whatever that means, something to do with you need to be signed up with the forums(guess).
I'm interested to see what was said (if its in english that is)

#3 Shriketalon

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 10:46 PM

Try this link: http://www.wartower....ikel.php?id=627

#4 Ambitious

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 10:47 PM

Yeah, etwas wie ... err, something like not having the correct rights to view it.

#5 Matsy

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 10:47 PM

Thankyou very much, Shriketalon!

#6 Twisted Metal

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 10:47 PM

Also, shouldn't this be in the Community News and not GW2 news, since it has no new information for GuildWars2 ?

#7 4thVariety

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 10:48 PM

I should stop grabbing the link from the preview window one of these days.

#8 pamelakd

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 10:59 PM

I'm not going to lie, I found that article very hard to follow...It's all statistics but too wordy meaning I wanted to read it as a narrative, not a price break down.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 10:59 PM

A very well written article. Thank you. I totally agree with the writer.

As for deciding which game to buy... I want a physical copy only because it feels safer.

#10 keli

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 11:41 PM

But then why did GW 1 cost less at the initial release?

#11 Istaro

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:18 AM

Good point at the end.  Does the digital deluxe version provide $20 more value over the regular digital version?  Heck no, but I'm buying it to give ANet more money, because I think they deserve it.

#12 Firetruck

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:25 AM

...but I want the physical trinkets T_T Ah well, I'll be in the cash shop every month anyway.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:41 AM

Excellent article. Wish you would have linked your sources so I didn't have to do work myself but mehz.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:52 AM

i am happy to support ArenaNet...they deserve it

#15 BlairPhoenix

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:56 AM

4thVariety said:

There are three things depriving Germans of their sleep. Everybody knows about them, you can have lengthy in-depth discussions about them with every cab driver. It's Inflation, football and the price-performance ratio of things. No surprise the announcement of the different GW2 editions caused a few threads.

But today, I want to take the time to take a real hard look at all the metrics behind a video game price and give you an in depth look at who will get your hard earned cash and what your money actually buys. Hint: It is not just plastic statues.

Full Article: How Expensive is it?

Enjoy.
Just saying, the ring is part of the bonus for pre-purchasing, not part of the Digital Deluxe/CE.

#16 Minttunator

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:57 AM

Good article, as always. Thanks! :)

#17 TenderFoot

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 01:03 AM

People need to accept the fact and move on instead each time a major game comes out people scream unfair prices etc when in fact this type pricing scheme they are talking about has been going on long before PC games as it applies to all consumer goods moved worldwide.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 01:08 AM

The really important thing is: People who want to buy non-locally won't hurt ANet/NcSoft's profits. So by all means, go and get your products by proxy.

Btw. NCSoft could use a "gift" function like steam. It makes these kinds of things a little more convenient.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 01:13 AM

skip everything and read this part :)  surprise i've made it to the last paragraph :p

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If you feel like ArenaNet should win retail for making such a great game, then buy at their online store and only at their online store. Screw all the trinkets, the one use items, the ring of +2 on all attributes in a game with triple digit attributes later on. Just buy the game from the people who made it. It is an extra 10 bucks which do not end up at some reseller, but go directly to those who deserve it. If you think the game is worth it, buy some digital deluxe edition. Do not think about whether the extras are worth it, because they are not. Ask yourself, whether the game is worth that price to you, or not. As for the collector’s edition, it truly deserves a special place in that black hollow and cold heart of mine. Sure, the stores are happy, because they earn more money per unit and sure ArenaNet get more money, because those trinkets are barely worth $5. In a world where I can pick up a phone and order a freight container of Chinese pullovers at 14 cent a piece, do you really think that some plastic statue is worth anything? If you are into that sort of this, good for you. If you just want to give ArenaNet your money, fine. If you want to give ArenaNet a lot of money and demand more bang for the buck, then buy multiple copies of the game.


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Posted 17 March 2012 - 01:25 AM

Excellent analysis, and a really interesting look into where the money goes.

...I'd tack on a note about the cash shop and whatever will be in it, because short of whatever little fees the credit card companies snip out (less than 5%), that goes straight into the ANet/NCsoft pocket.

Personally, I'm questioning whether I want the deluxe edition and whatnot, but I DO want more character slots.  I'm happy to drop another $30 on day one to get my full complement of planned characters, with no hesitation at all.  And I'll certainly keep my eyes peeled for other things I'd be willing to pay ArenaNet for.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 01:27 AM

Yep... been saying it forever now. Encouraging digital sells by giving 3 day headstart bonus for it rather than a 1 day, is a brilliant business move. Way more profit.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 01:43 AM

It's an interesting and well written article, but in the end I will get the retail version (still pre-purchase though, of course) just because I want to have a box to hold in my hands - at least if the standard game box is anything like those for GW1.

I'll show my direct support to ANet by buying from the ingame store ;)

(I'd rather shell out 150€ to get the standard game + 10-13 additional character slots than buy that CE eh)

Oh yeah, one thing I noticed: When you wrote about EA, you said that for their 60 million $ games they have an 200 $ advertisment budget. Missed a million there ;P

(is the typo in the headline intentional?)

#23 Jooga

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 01:49 AM

Great article. I love when articles are written to bring understanding to a situation.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 02:50 AM

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If you feel like ArenaNet should win retail for making such a great game, then buy at their online store and only at their online store. (...) Just buy the game from the people who made it. It is an extra 10 bucks which do not end up at some reseller, but go directly to those who deserve it. If you think the game is worth it, buy some digital deluxe edition. (...) Ask yourself, whether the game is worth that price to you, or not. (...) If you want to give ArenaNet a lot of money (...) buy multiple copies of the game.
This really swayed me to buy a pre-pur edition in the online store!
I planned on grabbing a box off the shelf of my local electronic mega chain, just to be safe and hold something in my hand out of tradition.

But all that money that flies into the hands of people that have had absolutely nothing to do with creating Guild Wars 2 just does not feel right at all.

Thanks for making that clear to me, 4th.

#25 Lycrus

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 03:39 AM

Neato said:

Yep... been saying it forever now. Encouraging digital sells by giving 3 day headstart bonus for it rather than a 1 day, is a brilliant business move. Way more profit.

i fail to see, why othe rpurchases except the digital one get a 1-day head start...
buy game, receive key, get the head start, go to retailer for another key and play the game. why do people claim its a 1day headstart?

on topic: article is well written and enlightened a few things. made up my mind, what to purchase.

#26 jammerpa

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 03:54 AM

Lycrus said:

i fail to see, why othe rpurchases except the digital one get a 1-day head start...
buy game, receive key, get the head start, go to retailer for another key and play the game. why do people claim its a 1day headstart?

on topic: article is well written and enlightened a few things. made up my mind, what to purchase.

It's not just the digital purchases that get the 3 day head start.  It's any one of the editions that get PRE-PURCHASED either from the NC store, or from their list of preferred retailers (which hasn't been announced yet).  The 1 day head start goes to anyone that PRE-ORDERS the game, i.e. doesn't pay for it in full at the time of purchase.

#27 Lycrus

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 03:57 AM

jammerpa said:

It's not just the digital purchases that get the 3 day head start.  It's any one of the editions that get PRE-PURCHASED either from the NC store, or from their list of preferred retailers (which hasn't been announced yet).  The 1 day head start goes to anyone that PRE-ORDERS the game, i.e. doesn't pay for it in full at the time of purchase.

ahhhh thank you. i missed this tiny bit of "word-play";D

#28 Nemui

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 04:17 AM

oh how i wish all brick & mortar stores would finally die. they're useless for videogames imho. at least in countries with decent internet connections, such as germany...

please don't let your money end up in the wrong hands, not because "you just want to hold something in your hands". we're not in 1995 anymore. actually one of my best friends still thinks like that, i'll have to change his mind before GW2 releases.

anyway, i don't always agree with Totalbiscuit, but i do hope that we'll see faster internet speeds around the globe within 10 years so we can finally abandon all this physical crap.

#29 Sir Twist

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 04:27 AM

I was already planning on buying two copies. As I mentioned elsewhere, $60 + $150 was what I paid in two months when I started playing Aion. $80 + $150 for a DD & a CE, only $20 more, is not exactly that much of a stretch.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 04:48 AM

Well what can i do, im Dutch ?! Which means i can only 'go dutch' and seeing that is not an option, i will have to make my choices smart. So i guess kindoff like the Germans and their Prize/Performance ratio, I do the same ... do i think Anet deserves a decent amount of my money, sure they do, but I just can't deal with just giving it to them; this is a business transaction so I will compare €55 SE to €75 DDL and say, is THAT worth €20 ... well in my book it's not, will i be sorry lateron that i don't have that elite skill, i am sure i will, i was sorry i didn't get a CE of prophecies too ... but ultimately there will be other things in the Online shop that will be worth it aswell to spend those €20,- so i have no fear that Anet will ultimately get the money they deserve from me, by offering content for sale that is worth that money.

In this respect i also have to point out a notion, GW2 has the same prizing sceme as SWTOR, now that tells me that 'they' or whom ever sets the these prizes compares GW2 with a game that has 6 movies behind it and has been a SF hit since the first movie came out when i was a lil kid. I would argue that everybody and their mom's have seen SW whether they like SF or not. I can't but feel the prizing of GW2 to be misplaced in this sense, it is the 2nd installment of a game that did reasonably well (about 7million copies sold over 4 expansions which means about 1,5 million players, 1 million for sure if you considder people buying multiple copies for storage and farming purposes.) ... Selling such a game at the prize that puts it 'on par' with SWToR, is like trying to sell an Opel at the prize of a Mercedes, now you may like Opel alot, but you also know that that is just a silly notion...

Edited by Arghore, 17 March 2012 - 04:50 AM.