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#1 Smigleesmits

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 06:14 PM

One thing I personally didn't like about GW1 was that the mini-pets were often bosses or strange creatures that didn't look like they should really be a pet, such as Shiro (I didn't mind things like Ooze though). Now it seems that with the announcement of Rytlock being a mini-pet they will carry on this tradition. I find that that it lowers the value in seeing the actual character in game, of whatever the mini-copies may be of. And I just don't find it appropriate for people to be carrying little humans around with them, which would be the case if we got something like a mini-Logan.

With this video , it seems like there will be human mini-pets (Including all of the Edge of Destiny members), I honestly hope that it changes, but I wouldn't mind a mini-Rytlock if it was cub version. (Thank you Dark Saviour for sharing the video).

Even if they are called Miniatures in the final build (Although they are currently called Mini-pets in GW2) I still dislike seeing small figures that are just scaled down humans following someone.

What is your opinion on mini-pets that are exact copies of humanoids in game?


Mod edit:

Naut said:

Just a reminder, this thread is not for mini-pet suggestions. We have a thread for this:
http://www.guildwars...uld-t27172.html

Please keep the discussion to your opinions on mini-humanoids.

Edited by Naut, 20 March 2012 - 04:58 PM.


#2 Kendil

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 06:17 PM

Doesn't bother me the least. What do you suggest should be minipets instead? Something completely unrelated? Some minor creature which you might only find in a corner of Tyria?

Edited by Kendil, 17 March 2012 - 06:24 PM.


#3 Big Ol Norn

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 06:23 PM

I thought they were all kind of cheesed. It's just the exact same model scaled down.

It would be cooler if they looked like actual toys in some way.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 06:25 PM

Big Ol Norn said:

I thought they were all kind of cheesed. It's just the exact same model scaled down.

It would be cooler if they looked like actual toys in some way.

That'd actually be a really cool twist to it.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 06:27 PM

It doesn't bother me either. At least the members of Destiny's Edge are quite popular throughout Tyria - some clever little Asura must have invented the franchise-system to make some money for his studies. And you know what a little magic can do :D

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 06:28 PM

Maybe that's why they're referred to as "miniatures" rather than "mini-pets", as in, they're not necessarily pets?  More to the point, no, they don't really bother me at all.  They are pretty much toys for your character after all, comparable to an action figure or toy robot.  If it makes you feel any better, the gwen doll from gw1 was described to be powered by a tiny golem.

#7 Smigleesmits

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 06:28 PM

Big Ol Norn said:

I thought they were all kind of cheesed. It's just the exact same model scaled down.

It would be cooler if they looked like actual toys in some way.

I agree I like how in WoW even though Deathwing was a mini-pet for the collector's edition he was different and looked more like a proper mini-pet, using a modified whelp model they use for all mini-dragon pets . So maybe they could do a cub version of Rytlock, but I fear they are already set on repeating the Guild Wars miniature system.

Edited by Smigleesmits, 17 March 2012 - 06:36 PM.


#8 Gilles VI

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 06:30 PM

Hmm I think it was cool to have these bosses/special monsters as a mini :)
I just wished it wasn' just a game of chance but rather a game of skill/ game time or so :)

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 06:39 PM

I get what OP is saying. I'm really not a fan of having a little dude following everyone's character, however Mini's like The Rabbit and Moa Chick from Gw1 were really cool, because they didn't look out of place. I know I'll be sporting my Racoon Mini everywhere I go.

#10 Dark Saviour

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 06:42 PM

Eh. I'm not a big fan of this either, and when the video of the first minipet collection for GW2 came out, I was a fair bit disappointed...

Attractive humanoids have never bothered me too much, because even if they're rather boring, at least they're nice to look at. But all the different monsters and enemies end up being uninspired AND unattractive. :-/

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 07:03 PM

yep. Minpets shouldn't be scaled down models, they should be actual creatures that are that size naturally.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 07:19 PM

I don't like minis of sentient humanoid creatures either, but a lot of people do, and it doesn't negatively affect my enjoyment of the game enough to justify me demanding to alter or remove them.

In GW1, I only dedicated monster minis to my HOM and sold the human/oid ones for some good coin.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 07:59 PM

I don't like them either, I much preferred WoW's system because nothing seemed out of place, you could have snake pets, cockroach pets, magical brooms, and all the dragon bosses weren't just scaled down, they actually had separate models, like having baby versions of them. It was cute and didn't look strange. I suppose if the miniatures are somehow magical apparitions or are golems powered by asuran magic, I guess I could learn to live with it, but they still could have made specialised models to make them look like they were clockwork or specially made asura golems or what have you.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 08:30 PM

Man, Prince Rurik was my favorite minipet. I always loved to see him tag along :)

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 08:34 PM

They are called miniatures, not mini-pets. So..

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 08:42 PM

Xuco said:

Man, Prince Rurik was my favorite minipet. I always loved to see him tag along :)
At least mini-Rurik is following you instead of running into mobs. ;)

Mini NPC's look weird IMHO. I'm not bothered by mini-versions of mobs or bosses

Edited by Ouwebak, 17 March 2012 - 08:43 PM.
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#17 Smigleesmits

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 08:51 PM

Nipaah said:

They are called miniatures, not mini-pets. So..

Apparently, according to the video, in GW2 they will be called mini-pets.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 08:56 PM

When I started playing GW1, I also had issues with having 'human' miniatures. Some were indeed less cute than the first batch of WoW mini-pets...  . In WoW I spend ages running around with baby dragonlings that said purr on click, and twirled around themselves and flapped their wings. It was like a 'real' ingame pet for your character. Most of GW1 miniatures weren't that attractive in this way to me, and I think also others. I only liked the celestial pets, moa chick,... .
Most miniatures were more like trophies to me, I only used them for HoM, and nobody wanted to adopt them (for free mind you), so I tossed many away. That's why I think they lacked a bit of appeal. I was in awe for the Gwenn doll though. And eventually I began to see human miniatures as like some kind of doll as well. That's how I grow to like them more.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 08:58 PM

I do think WoW does the whole mini/minipet thing in a very nice way.
You still have mini lore figures and bosses (Lil' XT, Lil' KT, Lil' Deathwing, etc) but they're new models. And unbelievably cute.

In GW, the non-human/non-boss minis are pretty cool IMO.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 09:10 PM

Smigleesmits said:

Apparently, according to the video, in GW2 they will be called mini-pets.

Oh well, that's a shame really, since miniatures do fit them better when there are humanoid miniatures. It's the wording like pet that makes people expect all of them to be cute lil pets, but there will be those cute types too, just don't use the ones you don't like would be my suggestion.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 09:12 PM

I don't like the character pets as much as the monster ones, but I don't disslike them. They can actually look quite badass.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 09:16 PM

Yeah I suppose it's a little late to change but I couldn't bring myself to care about straight-up humanoids in GW1. That yellow ophil was quite nice. The problem with things that are just scaled down is you miss the detail, whereas a more exaggerated/cartoony style from wow wouldn't suit the aesthetic of guild wars.

#23 Mr. X

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 09:38 PM

From a lore standpoint, more generic miniatures such as "Seraph Warrior" would make a bit more sense.  From what I recall, they're supposed to be something like toy soldiers + magic.  It only gets odd when you realize that there are tons of minis of specific people, some of which are from entirely different ends of the world or even dimensions.  How do they know what the subject looks like?  How do the buyers know what they're getting?  Does Tyria have copyright?  Lots of odd questions crop up.

I'd still rather have a monster mini though.

Edited by Mr. X, 17 March 2012 - 09:42 PM.


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Posted 17 March 2012 - 10:02 PM

i don't really like them as much, but i don't have an issue with them. I'll be rocking the servitor golem at first anyway

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 10:39 PM

Doll version would be kinda cool (like Gwen Doll or the collectable dolls in Fable). It is kinda cheap to use exactly the same model but scaled down.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 10:49 PM

I don't mind that the minis are just scaled down versions of existing things.  It... just isn't that important to me.

I'll use the minis that I feel like using, and I won't use the ones that I don't.  =/

#27 Pierre Francese

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 10:59 PM

They were called miniatures, not mini pets. Any irritating feeling you have is with regard to the community established name.

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 12:18 AM

I gotta agree with the OP on this one.  A mini pet to me...is a pet...ie an animal.  I never cared for the mini heroes/people and the like as "pets".  Yes I know they are considered "miniatures", but most people considered them pets.

Per Guild Wars Wiki:
Miniatures are small replicas of different creatures and other NPCs found in Guild Wars. They are often referred to as miniature pets, mini-pets, or minis for short

Edited by Lynne, 18 March 2012 - 12:22 AM.


#29 Nipaah

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 12:23 AM

Lynne said:

I gotta agree with the OP on this one.  A mini pet to me...is a pet...ie an animal.  I never cared for the mini heroes/people and the like as "pets"

Per Guild Wars Wiki:
Miniatures are small replicas of different creatures and other NPCs found in Guild Wars. They are often referred to as miniature pets, mini-pets, or minis for short

So try look at them as miniatures, and not "pets". I agree that humanoids aren't something I want to use either, but they are mainly just collectibles. I myself like collecting, but I rather use a miniature I find cool or cute, over a humanoid, even if the humanoid is harder to get.

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Posted 18 March 2012 - 12:35 AM

I liked bosses and things as mini pets in GW, a mini Lich or Shiro is certainly much cooler looking than a mini Mantid would be or a mini Rabbit is, in my opinion! I don't view them so much as 'pets' though as 'toys'.

Like another poster suggested, maybe give them all some toyish looking features? Sort of like the mini Gwen Doll in GW... certainly feels more like a collectible toy than a mini version of Gwen that I keep as a pet that way. Although, I personally enjoy the exact mini replicas.