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[pradine]

Hey forum,

I was watching over the GDC concept art video's and I made some observations on what I think is the full list of weapons/shields and crafting gear for GW2 from the concept art displayed at GDC and that can be seen through the ArenaNet channel at http://www.youtube.c...renanetofficial.

Part 4, GDC:
As is seen, these 2 concept sheets outline different skin versions of what could be the full list of player available weapons and offhands in GW2. This includes; swords (short, medium, curved, jagged, straight), axes, hammers (spiked, flat and clubbed which could be a mace), staffs (as well as small wands, mid wands and what could be a torch), longbows, a length weapon (spear/polearm?), guns (pistol, rifle and gun-axes), blowing horn?, and one very strange weapon or offhand above the horn on the bottom left (this could be a offhand fist-based weapon such as brass knuckles, or a claw, some magical based offhand or even a small arm-shield), and of course there is the central tower shield.  



In the teaser trailer many of the weapons seem to have one handed and two handed variants (this is also confirmed through these screenshots, as there are both big heavy swords and shorter ones, there are pistols and there are big rifles, etc), and examples of duel wielding are shown in the teaser trailer also.



As you can see this skin layout above affirms the same group of weapons as the first, strengthining my proposal that this is the set weapons we will be given for GW2.

Part 3, GDC:
Another observation in the GDC concept art was the full list of what appears to be gear needed to craft 'stuff' for GW2. This includes; mixing pots, pedestal stones, boilers and chemical seperators, Bowsaws, assorted hammers and clamps, chissles, Gun barrell boiler/lathe, Anvils, tool caddys, knifes and clippers, stock bins, woodsmithing and gunsmithing tools and many more labeled and unlabeled items. Although as speculated in posts below, this could be just a list of misc items to include in a 'merchent or crafter shop' to add depth and belief.  



Im certain that parts 1 and 2 of GDC also contained similar lists in the exact same layout which presented concept art for different weapon and offhand skins. Anything else that is to be added to the list? As far as I am aware this theory fits into what we have seen from the teaser trailers in shown weapons/offhands. If someone could post the similar finds in the other GDC video's that would be great also.

Discussion?

EDIT: Changed some obvious flaws in the lists.
Attatchments (L-R: crafting, weapons/offhand set1, weapons/offhand set2):

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Edited by pradine, 07 April 2010 - 08:17 AM.

[Vidal]

That there isn't a flail in those pics makes me a sad panda...

[Biz]

Vidal said:

That there isn't a flail in those pics makes me a sad panda...

Flails take more time and effort to animate and/or implement into the game then most weapons especially if you use "physics" for your weapons, that is you hit something in-sync with animation for the weapon.

You get one handed maces that should cover it.


As for Crafting - with out confirmation from devs those images can just as well be items and tools to be placed around NPC crafter, stock bin for instance - utterly useless if you have inventory that can hold 40+ stacks of items, but a good filler in a npc crafter's house.

[KallyX]

I think the weapon above the horn that you are referring to is a sort of chakram, because it does have a blade popping out which is more obvious in the second pic.

http://guildwars.wik..._Split_Chakrams

It might also be a focus.

[Naoroji]

I hope those above the horns are fistweapons :p. And I'm also hoping that the Pistols don't need the horn as side-arm to resupply it with gunpowder,...

[Druid of Melandru]

Naoroji said:

I hope those above the horns are fistweapons :p. And I'm also hoping that the Pistols don't need the horn as side-arm to resupply it with gunpowder,...

x2  Dual-weild pistols ftw!

[Dirame]

Is that a spear or a polearm at the far right? If that is a spear, I guess its safe to say the Para is coming back.

[Own Age Myname]

Dirame said:

Is that a spear or a polearm at the far right? If that is a spear, I guess its safe to say the Para is coming back.

I think so. Unless its a melee spear.

[Naoroji]

Dirame said:

Is that a spear or a polearm at the far right? If that is a spear, I guess its safe to say the Para is coming back.

The bottom pic it's a polearm, in the top pic it's a spear. They're both in the same spot, so I suppose they're the same type of weapon. So I'm guessing it's melee (Thrown polearms are just,... Silly xD).

Edited by Naoroji, 05 April 2010 - 02:00 PM.

[Vidal]

Biz said:

Flails take more time and effort to animate and/or implement into the game then most weapons especially if you use "physics" for your weapons, that is you hit something in-sync with animation for the weapon.

Yeah I wondered if it would be possible.  Maybe it just isn't feasible right now...maybe in the future.  Maces will do nicely for now though.

As for the spears, I do hope they are converted to melee use...

[Excel]

I'd like to note that the obvious shield was not mentioned. ;)

Also, I think the short twin weapons in each picture are daggers rather than short swords.

[Naoroji]

Excel said:

I'd like to note that the obvious shield was not mentioned. ;)

Well, ehm,... :p.

[Excel]

Well, just because something is obvious, doesn't mean it shouldn't be listed! :D

[Jexx]

If Anet approves these pics to be some of the weapons actually in the game, you can assume that there will be around 6-8 professions.

For those Golemancer people...I think Golems are just going to be a companion...Hopefully you can still get one of those sweet looking arm-braces that Zojja has.

[Arghore]

OR, the picture is a cutt of a bigger one only showing weapons we currently know ;)

[Theobold]

Naoroji said:

I hope those above the horns are fistweapons :p. And I'm also hoping that the Pistols don't need the horn as side-arm to resupply it with gunpowder,...

I actually kind of like that idea...

[Jexx]

Arghore said:

OR, the picture is a cutt of a bigger one only showing weapons we currently know ;)

That could be true. :P

Daggers- Assassin
Swords, Axes, Maces, Shields (maybe spears)- Warrior-type
Bows, Guns (maybe spears)- Ranger-type
Wands, Staffs (maybe focci)- Elementalist, Mesmer, Necro, Monk


I just noticed, those medium-staffs/long wands... They don't look like the others really, because they have real flames in them. Like a torch. Is it possible those are for the guns? Or is a new profession going to include torch running for the Tyrialympics? :P

[Fario]

Theobold said:

I actually kind of like that idea...

Who would use that though the assassin's? It doesn't sound like a very assassin thing to do it sneak up and then punch with a knuckle duster. Seems a bit weird to introduce a prof that mainlys uses that anyway.

I think it looks a lot more likely to be a caster off hand since nothing else really resembles an off hand except the horn which I don't all casters if any would actually use. Plus there's already one-handed wands in that image.

AsuranSylvari21 said:

That could be true. :P

Daggers- Assassin
Swords, Axes, Maces, Shields (maybe spears)- Warrior-type
Bows, Guns (maybe spears)- Ranger-type
Wands, Staffs (maybe focci)- Elementalist, Mesmer, Necro, Monk


I just noticed, those medium-staffs/long wands... They don't look like the others really, because they have real flames in them. Like a torch. Is it possible those are for the guns? Or is a new profession going to include torch running for the Tyrialympics? :P

I see the horns as an off hand for the pistols since it seems like something a scout would use to warn of enemy attacks and rangers are pretty much the closest things to scouts in gw.

Edited by Fario, 05 April 2010 - 04:36 PM.

[Mister_Smiley]

They are nice concept art i do agree with that much, but really can't go off professions from them because they are just concept art. They may not even make it into the game for all we know. But given what we have there, we have almost every class back from the looks, the biggest question is weather that is a Spear/polearm or polearm/spear, but it does bring up a lot of ideas of what the professions could be.

[Naoroji]

Fario said:

Who would use that though the assassin's? It doesn't sound like a very assassin thing to do it sneak up and then punch with a knuckle duster. Seems a bit weird to introduce a prof that mainlys uses that anyway.

Warriors? A.k.a. Brawlers? xD Why fist-weapons, you ask? Because they're cool, period! ;o

[Arghore]

AsuranSylvari21 said:

They don't look like the others really, because they have real flames in them. Like a torch. Is it possible those are for the guns? Or is a new profession going to include torch running for the Tyrialympics? :P

I think this time around you might not find torches and fire's lit in caves, also with the day and night system, esp. in forrested area's nights could become truely dark, a torch ofcourse is for those afraid of the dark ;)

[Malchior Devenholm]

Arghore said:

I think this time around you might not find torches and fire's lit in caves, also with the day and night system, esp. in forrested area's nights could become truely dark, a torch ofcourse is for those afraid of the dark ;)

Of Course!

/doh

I didn't consider the day/night system.  So yeah, I guess it's safe to say that one art is indeed a torch.  Now the question is how will it work?  Because it will put every player at a disadvantage by disallowing the use of an offhand or even worse, a two-handed weapon.

[Shaft Ed]

Strap the torch to your back! (jk)

[Hybarf Tics]

How quickly people forget, remember the first weapon art that came out? It had firearms, scythe to name a few, it's not because we now have new pics that the old art gets dropped. :D

[Arghore]

Well i would picture it to work somewhat how the Shard of Brilliance (think thats how its called) works ... though ofcourse you wouldnt drop you torch ... but i picture say a team of 8 entering a dark cave system, the 1e, 4e and 8e person on the string carry a torch while you decent into the cave, ofcourse this only lets you view your direct surroundings ... then a ROAR sounds, and seeing cave system blocks the radar, no-one sees a red dot (if there even is a radar :) ) ... then outof the dark appears this foul beast in the shimmering light of the torches, then, the wammo rushes in and begins to fight the beast, people switch out torches for weapons, pitch black darkness and with the new fps style fighting system no-one knows where to aim, a scream, bodies falling to the ground ... *poef* the bright light of the rez shrine makes everybody realise that wasnt the best strategy ...

Mostly wonder if the torches will be lit even when stored in your inventory, or wether you have to carry matches to light them... could also see caves and or dungeons with unlit fires and walltorches that, when lit, burn for say a min or two ... so you can light the way infront, and if you run atleast for a small part of where you have been, the torches will be lit...

Last thing i wonder, wether the torches will be 'consumables' say you buy them as a bundle and everytime you use one, it gets lit and gives a torch for say 5min, then it disappears ...

[Malchior Devenholm]

Poojah said:

How quickly people forget, remember the first weapon art that came out? It had firearms, scythe to name a few, it's not because we now have new pics that the old art gets dropped. :D

But that was drawn by a guy who no longer works for Arenanet and for what isn't even positive is GW 2.  Some of his arts were introduced in Nightfall and GWEN.

[Hybarf Tics]

Malchior Devenholm said:

But that was drawn by a guy who no longer works for Arenanet and for what isn't even positive is GW 2.  Some of his arts were introduced in Nightfall and GWEN.

Didn't know about some of those facts. Found the article for a look back.

http://guildwars.inc...ight=Weapon art

[KallyX]

I think torches will be 2 handed "bundle" weapons that you have to drop when youre in a fight, and it'll continue burning. Would be kinda dissapointing though.

[Hybarf Tics]

Maybe I missed it but has anyone realized that maybe torches are not needed, a lot of the weapons seem to have glowing parts to them. :cool:

[Bergil Sunfyre]

My interperetation of the what the weapons are (in"reading order", on the upper picture) Twin daggers, two-handed and one-handed swords, an axe (probably one-handed), one-handed and two-handed bludgeon, torch (not sure why?), bow, (non-thrown) spear, staff, wand, thing that could be one of several things (helmet, focus, or Cestus), shield, pistol, horn (musical or powder-horn), musket.

I also think that the top picture is Human weapons and the lower picture Charr weapons. It would be eazier to determine what the cestus/helmet/focus thing is if we had more examples to compare, but I'm inclined to think that it's a focus, as we have a wand but no other potential focus on the pictures, unless the horns are focuses.
#Dismantle

Edited by Bergil Sunfyre, 10 April 2010 - 04:42 PM.
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