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#1 Weindrasi

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 03:23 AM

In the past, this has been a hot issue that has a tendancy to turn into a flame war, or an argument over health. We aren't going to do that in this thread--I'm going to lay down some ground rules.

1. No criticism of what Arenanet already has in place.
2. No criticism of what other people say they'd like to have.
3. No arguments/debates. That isn't what this thread is about.
4. The purpose of this thread is to give arenanet an idea of what players would like to see, without making them dredge through time-wasting debates.

So, lets begin. I would like some larger, and some more muscled females. I'd also like some males who are muscular, but not so toned.
Aged and scarred faces for both genders would be nice.

#2 marioz08

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 03:50 AM

Yea i see what you mean every human model was really skinny or look really young. I liked how Swtor did it where they had basically all the body types Gw2 had but they added a few "larger" bodies. The funny thing is that in swtor a lot of people played +size toons.

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#3 Nightwish1094

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 04:02 AM

marioz08 said:

Yea i see what you mean every human model was really skinny or look really young. I liked how Swtor did it where they had basically all the body types Gw2 had but they added a few "larger" bodies. The funny thing is that in swtor a lot of people played +size toons.

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I thouht SWTOR was terrible. You could either be anorexic, hulk hogan or Rosie O'donnell.

#4 Herr Roy Raven

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 04:02 AM

I'd like to see these body types in the game.  Imagine her as a thief.

http://2.bp.blogspot...a+hot+women.jpg

Although, I'm sure after playing Guild Wars 1,  ArenaNet is about 100 steps ahead of me.

Edited by Chalky, 20 April 2012 - 05:29 AM.
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#5 Segraine

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 04:03 AM

There are only 3 body types people can have: endomorph, ectomorph, and mesomorph. Along with a mixture between them. The human body types look fine to me.

I am still hoping for a bust slider since I think smaller busts on women are more attractive than usual video game floatation devices.

#6 Cereal

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 04:17 AM

Why just human characters?

#7 Weindrasi

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 04:19 AM

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Why just human characters?

They have less variety then the other races. Although if you'd like to suggest an addition for one of the others, feel free.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 04:20 AM

I like really lanky builds like the necromancer in GW.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 04:21 AM

I'm a little sad that there isn't a powerfully built female character.  Especially when considering the monstrous size some male characters get, I always find myself wanting larger, more muscular female characters.  I point to the female barbarian of Diablo 3 as a great example.

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But beyond that, the body shapes cover a great deal of variety.  One thing that might be nice, for the males at least, is the ability to separate muscle definition and body hair from actual body type, since I don't think anyone should be forced to have a really hairy (or hairless!) character simply because that's the body type.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 04:27 AM

this thread again.  Really?

I'd like to see loli characters, deformed characters, anime characters with googly eyes and anything and everything that anyone would not want in the game.  to make things easier, just give GW2 the Aion character creator.

Edited by Reikou, 20 April 2012 - 04:31 AM.


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Posted 20 April 2012 - 04:45 AM

And thank Dio they haven't!

Anyways, I'm all for variety in both male and female forms, but I'd also like them to stay within reasonable standards. The males shouldn't be the Hulk, the women shouldn't have the flotation devices Segraine mentioned.

Beyond that I'm not too sure.  I'm not terribly picky.

#12 tallanx

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 05:47 AM

Cursor said:

I'm a little sad that there isn't a powerfully built female character.  Especially when considering the monstrous size some male characters get, I always find myself wanting larger, more muscular female characters.  I point to the female barbarian of Diablo 3 as a great example.

http://oyster.ignimg...rtwork_orig.jpg

But beyond that, the body shapes cover a great deal of variety.  One thing that might be nice, for the males at least, is the ability to separate muscle definition and body hair from actual body type, since I don't think anyone should be forced to have a really hairy (or hairless!) character simply because that's the body type.

go make a norn, their women are chunkier and more muscular

#13 dkhartigan

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 06:05 AM

tallanx said:

go make a norn, their women are chunkier and more muscular

You can hardly tell a difference between human and norn female, if you ignore the height difference that is. - wouldn't want to make the women any less sexy now would we...

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 06:19 AM

I'd just like to have normal length legs, as opposed to ones that are anywhere between 6" and 1' too long.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 06:21 AM

Well you probably know what I'm going to say, but here's my list.

- Pretty much any/all (I wish) of the bodytypes of these athletes (i.e. toned and muscular options for females; more svelte and toned (as opposed to cut) options for males)
- heavier-set women and men in general
- Various breast sizes
- Older faces (for both human and norn)
- variety of scarred faces (for both human and norn)
- A bit more variety with hair
- Some non-Caucasian presets
- some more facial hair options for males

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 06:26 AM

Zephire said:

Pretty much any/all (I wish) of the bodytypes of these athletes (i.e. toned and muscular options for females; more svelte and toned (as opposed to cut) options for males)

Oh, I love that resource!  First saw it when blogged by Yuko Ota, the woman who illustrates the comic Johnny Wander.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 06:29 AM

Cursor said:

I'm a little sad that there isn't a powerfully built female character.  Especially when considering the monstrous size some male characters get, I always find myself wanting larger, more muscular female characters.  I point to the female barbarian of Diablo 3 as a great example.

http://oyster.ignimg...rtwork_orig.jpg

But beyond that, the body shapes cover a great deal of variety.  One thing that might be nice, for the males at least, is the ability to separate muscle definition and body hair from actual body type, since I don't think anyone should be forced to have a really hairy (or hairless!) character simply because that's the body type.

Hey if you're not satisfied with the body shape of the female human, you can always choose a female norn.

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But I think by release ArenaNet will have at least 1 beefy human female build, so don't worry guys.

#18 DarksunG

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 06:35 AM

Anything that makes the females look like Women & not teenagers. But they'd have to change all the faces too then.

#19 Requiamer

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 06:49 AM

Zephire said:

Well you probably know what I'm going to say, but here's my list.

- Pretty much any/all (I wish) of the bodytypes of these athletes (i.e. toned and muscular options for females; more svelte and toned (as opposed to cut) options for males)
- heavier-set women and men in general
- Various breast sizes
- Older faces (for both human and norn)
- variety of scarred faces (for both human and norn)
- A bit more variety with hair
- Some non-Caucasian presets
- some more facial hair options for males

Amazing pictures, should be a reference for anyone making body types.

Also you can see that bodies isn't always as proportional as the cannons make you think, imo they could thrown in some models, actress, porn star as well, i mean sport is always looked as a body reference, but it would have been just interesting to throw in few non sport models too, just for the heck of it.

"natural body building" :zip:

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 07:18 AM

Zephire said:

Well you probably know what I'm going to say, but here's my list.

- Pretty much any/all (I wish) of the bodytypes of these athletes (i.e. toned and muscular options for females; more svelte and toned (as opposed to cut) options for males)
- heavier-set women and men in general
- Various breast sizes
- Older faces (for both human and norn)
- variety of scarred faces (for both human and norn)
- A bit more variety with hair
- Some non-Caucasian presets
- some more facial hair options for males

postan again.


Amannelle said:

Well, do note... you are a young individual.

-As a human, you are stepping out of Divinity's Reach for the first time... I HIGHLY doubt you are an 80 year old who hasn't stepped into Shaemoor. :)
-As a Sylvari, you are a newborn.
-Asura don't age like humans.
-As a Norn you are mid-20s and new to creating your own legend.
-As a Charr you are a bit new and rising in the ranks... or at least trying to. :)

Also take note of voice. No matter how old you try to make your face, you have a young adventurer's voice. :D ALSO notice the dialogue-- for example, in the Norn area, one guy makes a comment about "youngsters like you...".

Conclusion? YOU ARE YOUNG. :D  It's great if you want to RP an older person, but the game is heavily pushing a young, new adventurer. You may be able to pass as late 20s, but you're certainly no aged explorer.


#21 Ditz

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 07:21 AM

The thing about Fat body types is that they just don't make sesne, your character is an adventurer who fights huge monster and traverses the entire continent, how the hell are they supposed to retain any kind of body fat?

#22 Requiamer

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 07:28 AM

Ditz said:

The thing about Fat body types is that they just don't make sesne, your character is an adventurer who fights huge monster and traverses the entire continent, how the hell are they supposed to retain any kind of body fat?

There is a notion of "type", some people will retain fat even in the worst condition, just like some won't ever be fat even if you feed them with fat all day long. There is a variable you don't really control, and it is about how your body react, and this is the case not only for fat but all the others component of your diet. Some people body will evacuate extra sugar, some won't, calcium the same... A lot of health problem come from that. So some people are naturally fatter than other even if they eat exactly the same thing.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 07:34 AM

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#24 Arth

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 07:35 AM

More Buff Humans! i dont want to have to roll a Norn

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 07:38 AM

Requiamer said:

There is a notion of "type", some people will retain fat even in the worst condition, just like some won't ever be fat even if you feed them with fat all day long. There is a variable you don't really control, and it is about how your body react, and this is the case not only for fat but all the others component of your diet. Some people body will evacuate extra sugar, some won't, calcium the same... A lot of health problem come from that. So some people are naturally fatter than other even if they eat exactly the same thing.

Unfortunately, in the dark and dangerous world of Tyria, such people just wouldn't make it.  They'd be eaten by dragons or frog people, or turned into moas or skeletons.  End of the day, due to survival of the fittest, such individuals just wouldn't survive long enough to pass on their genes.

Talk about immersion breaking.

#26 Illein

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 07:50 AM

Irregardless of how it would affect personal stories and all that jazz I'd like to see the following two body types:

First of all: A FAT shape. Cause let's face it, there are a couple of professions that would do rather awesome with one, at least in my mind. The fat elementalist comes to mind, the total book worm who spent half his life studying the arcane arts hidden away in some dusty old library ;)

Or that lazy fat Mesmer Charr rather sprawling around than chasing the ball of wool :D

And as a SECOND type I'd have liked to see a very lanky, almost cadaverous build. Just very skinny with stringy muscles that would make for the perfect human necromancer - though I guess STANCE would do more for it than actual looks, if you have that guy who is hunched over slightly, it'd probably already do all the work in combination with a skinny build and the "more seasoned" face options + gray hair. But yeah, if I am thinking necromancer, I have a picture in mind of someone who mingles so much in the affairs of undead, he could be mistaken for one. Not some young, cocky whippersnapper who could advertise for skin-care products :D

Also wish the female options would be a little less "glam mag standards" and more realistic in some regards, but that's not as much of a problem because I probably won't play one.

@the person one up: Immersion breaking for me is the scholar whose ripped body bursts out his shirt with the tree-trunk arms. Don't know, just doesn't seem compatible. I like me some stereotypes sometimes ;)

#27 Ratchet Taintwrench

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 08:00 AM

I'd like to see a convex stomach curve of fat, even just a little, nothing extreme. Just a tiny bulge would be sweet~ Especially for the charr.

Imho.

#28 Illein

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 08:13 AM

Oh and for illustrative reference of what I was talking about when I meant a bony necromancer:

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Or more extremely, if you think of it as a human:

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 08:14 AM

Ditz said:

The thing about Fat body types is that they just don't make sesne, your character is an adventurer who fights huge monster and traverses the entire continent, how the hell are they supposed to retain any kind of body fat?

Reikou said:

Unfortunately, in the dark and dangerous world of Tyria, such people just wouldn't make it.  They'd be eaten by dragons or frog people, or turned into moas or skeletons.  End of the day, due to survival of the fittest, such individuals just wouldn't survive long enough to pass on their genes.

Talk about immersion breaking.

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Open your mind to the possibilities. Use your imagination.

Edited by Politikon, 20 April 2012 - 08:17 AM.


#30 l3eaudacious

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 08:45 AM

Reikou said:

Unfortunately, in the dark and dangerous world of Tyria, such people just wouldn't make it.  They'd be eaten by dragons or frog people, or turned into moas or skeletons.  End of the day, due to survival of the fittest, such individuals just wouldn't survive long enough to pass on their genes.

Talk about immersion breaking.

So a necromancer, elementalist, mesmer, and engineer all can't be chubby/skinny because survival of the fittest dictates they must be pretty?

A thief/ranger can't be skinny because....

By your own logic all the human females should automatically be killed during their first encounter since all they do is wear dresses, and have absolutely no physique.




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