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#1 DoomOfcookie

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 07:54 AM

Hi guys this is my second beta
my first beta was very bad i went to WvW at the start and the leveling was very slow.
i want to spend all the beta at WvW

so anyone have some tips or guide to level fast?

#2 Cl1p

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 07:55 AM

They said in the AMA that the leveling in WvW was kinda bugged. It didn't always register when you helped in a kill.

In PVE the fastest way was doing the personal story whenever you could.

Edited by Cl1p, 08 June 2012 - 07:56 AM.


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Posted 08 June 2012 - 07:59 AM

You play the game.

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 08:10 AM

Probably by joining a WvW guild so you aren't stuck with bad zergs.

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 08:48 AM

I'd normally say "leveling isn't the end all/ be all, take your time". However, I understand the desire to get as high as you can during a 60 hour, limited test experience.

Do your personal story when ever you are the proper level for the next chapter.

Dynamic Event, (not Heart Tasks), are the most efficient PvE content aside from the story, maybe even more so. That doesn't mean you have to skip the Hearts, most of them are quick and often DEs will occur near by, but really look for DEs, don't pass one by while tracking down some other objective.

Exploration gives good XP. Bouncing between the three racial starting areas will help you get more exploration XP and also expose you to more Dynamic Events. So, if you want to level fast, travel around. (Once you get the waypoints, it's instant).

While exploring, looking for DEs, take as second to res other players and help with kills. You get xp for the rez and downed players will appear as a skull icon on the mini-map. Kill XP is a low percentage of XP, but when more than one person kills something, they all get full XP and loot, so taking a few seconds to lend a hand is efficient, plus some daily and monthly achievements are kill based. Not just numbers, but variety of things you've killed. Achievments grant XP.

Lastly, crafting XP is only for crafting, so that won't help you level faster. However, you get character XP for gathering and there are gathering achievements that are easy to get and award good XP. So, grab a stack of each of the three gathering tools, (no training required), slot them on your character sheet and gather what ever you come across.

Efficiency is always key, so make sure to get all the way points you find, so you can travel quickly where you need to go. You can place items you want to sell on the Trading Post (AH) right from your inventory under the right click context menu. Items that are vendor junk can be sold many places, but with a good collection of way points, if you need to port to a vendor, then back where you left off, the round trip time is quick. (Don't ignore loot, because armor repairs and way point travel cost money, even if you don't spend money on much of anything else. Also, there is training to unlock the trait system).

Remember, some random, non event related kills are good for achievements, but grinding mobs is not efficient, at all, so don't make that a strategy.

(Theoretically, a Duo would level faster, because even though encounters can scale, two should still kill faster than one and you both get full XP).

Oh, on Dynamic Events, many are a part of an event chain. If NPCs from one event start to chat up what just happened, keep an eye on them for a minute at least and see if the event leads to another one. With DEs so efficient at granting XP, the minute wait is nothing vs. the rewards for the DE. Of course, if an event ends and you already have another one near by, you can just head to the event you can already see, rather than waiting on one that might or might not occur. Case by case call.

Edit: Sorry, see now you want to just do WvW. Most XP there is from Dynamic Events, so look for them in the environment, plus offense/defense of various objectives usually spawn DEs of their own. If your side isn't very efficient at taking keeps, getting with a smaller group that searches the map for objectives might be most efficient, as you hit on more events.

The gathering tip and exploration tips stand, as well as rezzing players and killing some mobs. Some others may be applicable as well. (I'd still probably recommend taking occasional breaks from WvW to do the Personal Story. There aren't too many events on the way to level 20, which is where the stories end in the public beta. Do what you can until the next step is above your level, make note of the requirement, then head back to WvW until you reach the requirement).

Edited by Axiom, 08 June 2012 - 09:05 AM.


#6 DoomOfcookie

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 08:57 AM

View PostAxiom, on 08 June 2012 - 08:48 AM, said:

I'd normally say "leveling isn't the end all/ be all, take your time". However, I understand the desire to get as high as you can during a 60 hour, limited test experience.

Do your personal story when ever you are the proper level for the next chapter.

Dynamic Event, (not Heart Tasks), are the most efficient PvE content aside from the story, maybe even more so. That doesn't mean you have to skip the Hearts, most of them are quick and often DEs will occur near by, but really look for DEs, don't pass one by while tracking down some other objective.

Exploration gives good XP. Bouncing between the three racial starting areas will help you get more exploration XP and also expose you to more Dynamic Events. So, if you want to level fast, travel around. (Once you get the waypoints, it's instant).

While exploring, looking for DEs, take as second to res other players and help with kills. You get xp for the rez and downed players will appear as a skull icon on the mini-map. Kill XP is a low percentage of XP, but when more than one person kills something, they all get full XP and loot, so taking a few seconds to lend a hand is efficient, plus some daily and monthly achievements are kill based. Not just numbers, but variety of things you've killed. Achievments grant XP.

Lastly, crafting XP is only for crafting, so that won't help you level faster. However, you get character XP for gathering and there are gathering achievements that are easy to get and award good XP. So, grab a stack of each of the three gathering tools, (no training required), slot them on your character sheet and gather what ever you come across.

Efficiency is always key, so make sure to get all the way points you find, so you can travel quickly where you need to go. You can place items you want to sell on the Trading Post (AH) right from your inventory under the right click context menu. Items that are vendor junk can be sold many places, but with a good collection of way points, if you need to port to a vendor, then back where you left off, the round trip time is quick. (Don't ignore loot, because armor repairs and way point travel cost money, even if you don't spend money on much of anything else. Also, there is training to unlock the trait system).

Remember, some random, non event related kills are good for achievements, but grinding mobs is not efficient, at all, so don't make that a strategy.

(Theoretically, a Duo would level faster, because even though encounters can scale, two should still kill faster than one and you both get full XP).

Oh, on Dynamic Events, many are a part of an event chain. If NPCs from one event start to chat up what just happened, keep an eye on them for a minute at least and see if the event leads to another one. With DEs so efficient at granting XP, the minute wait is nothing vs. the rewards for the DE. Of course, if an event ends and you already have another one near by, you can just head to the event you can already see, rather than waiting on one that might or might not occur. Case by case call.

Edit: Sorry, see now you want to just do WvW. Most XP there is from Dynamic Events, so look for them in the environment, plus offense/defense of various objectives usually spawn DEs of their own. If your side isn't very efficient at taking keeps, getting with a smaller group that searches the map for objectives might be most efficient, as you hit on more events.

The gathering tip and exploration tips stand, as well as rezzing players and killing some mobs. Some others may be applicable as well. (I'd still probably recommend taking occasional breaks from WvW to do the Personal Story. There aren't to many events on the way to level 20, which is where the stories end in the public beta. Do what you can until the next step is above your level, make note of the requirement, then head back to WvW until you reach the requirement).

no worries and thank you very much this was very helpful

now i think im going to pve for a while then switch to wvw when i get the proper level :)

thanks again

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 09:33 AM

@Axiom - Nice post.  Thanks for taking the time to write that up for the OP and others who may be interested.

Cheers -CC

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 09:43 AM

wvw was if you were playing smart (ie killing others since pretty much the only person to get xp was the person who killed) it's how a lot of the 30+ got there.

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 09:56 AM

View PostProtoavis, on 08 June 2012 - 09:43 AM, said:

wvw was if you were playing smart (ie killing others since pretty much the only person to get xp was the person who killed) it's how a lot of the 30+ got there.

I have nothing against the ranged classes myself.

Edited by Converse, 08 June 2012 - 09:57 AM.


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Posted 08 June 2012 - 10:09 AM

View PostProtoavis, on 08 June 2012 - 09:43 AM, said:

wvw was if you were playing smart (ie killing others since pretty much the only person to get xp was the person who killed) it's how a lot of the 30+ got there.

Actually the fastest way to level was in the second charr zone. There were always DEs going off, sometimes multiple ones, you could get a gold completion every minute or so. Some people got over 40 doing that last BWE.

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 03:56 PM

PvE is definitely faster than WvW.

#12 Vahkris

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 03:59 PM

Go to each of the cities and starter maps and get the exploration (points of interest and waypoints), doing any events along the way.  This will get you a significant amount of experience to start off with.

However, depending on your mindset it may not be very fun.

Edited by Vahkris, 08 June 2012 - 03:59 PM.


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Posted 08 June 2012 - 04:04 PM

Not to be mean but this game is not about "Fast" leveling. It's about "Fun" leveling. :)

Want Speed? Play the "other" MMO.
Want Fun? Play GW2.

To each their own thou. :)

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 04:12 PM

PVE with the xp boost active, grind mobs between DE's

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 04:13 PM

View PostJessina, on 08 June 2012 - 04:04 PM, said:

Not to be mean but this game is not about "Fast" leveling. It's about "Fun" leveling. :)

Want Speed? Play the "other" MMO.
Want Fun? Play GW2.

You need to be a min level to even attempt the dungeon to really test it though....

Faster leveling = attempts at actually completing all events.

Edited by karekiz, 08 June 2012 - 04:14 PM.


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Posted 08 June 2012 - 04:21 PM

View Postkarekiz, on 08 June 2012 - 04:13 PM, said:

You need to be a min level to even attempt the dungeon to really test it though....

Faster leveling = attempts at actually completing all events.
Huh?
You are talking about something totally irrelevant. Missed my point also. I'll let you figure it out. :)

#17 Vsin

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 04:25 PM

IMO:

- The first 0-5 ish should be spent just running around the nearby capital city.  Believe me when I say that you actually level faster by exploring than killing stuff when you're that level.

- For 5 - 20, move across the map quickly, clearing out events and hearts as you get them, making sure to get as many Points of Interest as possible, plus all the Skill Points you can do, and doing your Personal Story whenever you match the quest level (shown in brackets).  The Personal Story in particular REALLY makes you level faster.

- Past that, it's more of the 5-20 stuff minus the personal story because the Beta story cuts off at Lv20.

#18 Inervia

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Posted 08 June 2012 - 04:29 PM

I too would usually say to just play the game and not worry about leveling, but I'm very on the fence about what alts to play and its hard to get a good feel for how the class will play by just playing up to level five, so seeing how they play in PvE with more utility skills and a trait or two would help.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 05:46 PM

how about the people telling the OP not to hurry leveling gtfo of the thread labeled "Fastest way to level up?"

on topic:  I have a correction to what Axiom said above: "Lastly, crafting XP is only for crafting, so that won't help you level faster."

Correction, you DO get xp from crafting.  I can't say whether or not it helps if you're trying to level fast.  
Source of correction:
anet designer said it in a forum post, "For leveling a discipline from 0-400, you will gain 10 levels along the way. By maxing out all 8 disciplines, you will gain 80 levels. That means you could dedicate a character to crafting, feed it all the mats you get on other characters and level it all the way to 80 without ever needing to kill a thing. As hardcore crafters, we think that is pretty cool."

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 07:18 PM

I'd like to add an opinion:

Levelling in WvW should be a little slower.

Here's why, when you are in WvW you are helping your server/guild/squad and are getting rewards that way.  PvE does not benefit your groups as much so it should bring in greater personal rewards.

#21 Ljiona

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 07:48 PM

Great thing about this game, you can do a lot of different stuff to get xps and traveling from one to the other is quick.  With a small group, you beef up pve areas and use mainly AOE to kill stuff for easy xps (everyone gets full xps for tagging) and quick quest completions.  In WvW, you could have fun taking supply camps and killing supply trains (they give like decent xp and silver for completion).  Mix it up so you don't get bored.  You aren't spending 50 minutes trying to get from one place to another like some other MMOs.  You can instantly go from PVE to WvW.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 08:02 PM

Do a bit of everything in PvE.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 08:04 PM

View PostMura, on 13 July 2012 - 05:46 PM, said:

Correction, you DO get xp from crafting.  I can't say whether or not it helps if you're trying to level fast.  

Source of correction:
anet designer said it in a forum post, "For leveling a discipline from 0-400, you will gain 10 levels along the way. By maxing out all 8 disciplines, you will gain 80 levels. That means you could dedicate a character to crafting, feed it all the mats you get on other characters and level it all the way to 80 without ever needing to kill a thing. As hardcore crafters, we think that is pretty cool."

Yeah you get a LOT of XP from crafting. Almost too much, really. If you do the standard 2 crafting professions that's going to account for about 25% of your total XP, which is super high.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 08:16 PM

View PostJessina, on 08 June 2012 - 04:04 PM, said:

Not to be mean but this game is not about "Fast" leveling. It's about "Fun" leveling. :)

Want Speed? Play the "other" MMO.
Want Fun? Play GW2.

To each their own thou. :)

/wave

Maybe he considers leveling fast fun?

View PostBloatedGuppy, on 13 July 2012 - 08:04 PM, said:

Yeah you get a LOT of XP from crafting. Almost too much, really. If you do the standard 2 crafting professions that's going to account for about 25% of your total XP, which is super high.

It's not too much and it isn't going to change. It is set up the way it is so that by maxing out every craft you would have a level 85 character when done. Some people may enjoy crafting and being able to level that way. This game is about choices. If I want to level crafting I should be able to, if I want to level WvW I should be able to, etc.

Forcing one playstyle on everyone is a sure fire way to make this another substandard and boring MMO. Good thing Anet already knows that.

Edited by Ashanor, 13 July 2012 - 08:17 PM.


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Posted 13 July 2012 - 08:25 PM

View PostAshanor, on 13 July 2012 - 08:16 PM, said:

It's not too much and it isn't going to change. It is set up the way it is so that by maxing out every craft you would have a level 85 character when done. Some people may enjoy crafting and being able to level that way. This game is about choices. If I want to level crafting I should be able to, if I want to level WvW I should be able to, etc.

Forcing one playstyle on everyone is a sure fire way to make this another substandard and boring MMO. Good thing Anet already knows that.

Whoa, keep your pants on cowboy. I know it's not going to change. The reason it chafes me a bit is the GF hates crafting, so if I want to craft I have to craft for her too or she's going to fall spectacularly behind. That's annoying to ME. It's not like I'm out campaigning for it to get changed though. I understand the reasoning behind it.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 08:27 PM

I thought I read somewhere that levelling up a single CRAFT to maximum got you 10 levels. Two CRAFTS for 20 levels is 1/4 of your maximum level.
In BWE2 I started a guardian and just mined/picked/cut-down the things that I saw in between DE's, salvaged everything in bags as normal. And I got a really substantial amount by making copper things in jewel-crafting, and clothes tailoring. It's safe to say that doing a mixture of things on the go in the area that you are in is more efficient than focusing on just one thing.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 08:29 PM

View PostDoomOfcookie, on 08 June 2012 - 07:54 AM, said:

Hi guys this is my second beta
my first beta was very bad i went to WvW at the start and the leveling was very slow.
i want to spend all the beta at WvW

so anyone have some tips or guide to level fast?


I would suggest spending a little time in sPvP with your character at level 80 and experiement with some of the options so you know what they do and how the leveling works. not WvW. sPvP. your character with everything available to you.


for the beta crafting is the way to go.
get your 2000 gems if they still offer  it which is likely and trade in for some coin.
then start crafting.
that should get you several levels at the start.
Then go and start doing the content. Hearts and DE's. or WvW.

remember to sell your loot on the player market if its worthwhile.
Last BWE there were a lot of very good deals up there and solved all my money woes.
remember you can sell to the black lion wherever you are and to pick up your coin when you can.

craft whenever you have the opportunity and the cash.
spin your BWE experience out. spend everything. you are not going to keep it.

Remember that leveling does not bar you from content.

Edited by Crunchygremlin, 13 July 2012 - 08:31 PM.


#28 Tevesh

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 03:20 AM

Exploit exp gain holes and imbalanced xp boosts, what could be faster?

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 12:50 PM

View PostDoomOfcookie, on 08 June 2012 - 07:54 AM, said:

i want to spend all the beta at WvW
Go play WvW
What's your problem?

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 01:02 PM

One other note to add, its best to run off away from the masses of people if you are looking for fast exp in pve.

Where there are more people, there is a shorter life span for mobs. Mobs grant a larger 'bonus' exp depending on how long its been 'alive' for.

So if you run away to where nobody seems to be playing, clear it out, and run off to another area and repeat, you should be leveling faster than the people sticking around the starting areas or the dynamic event heavy areas.




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