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[Darkhan1]

What armor runes, neck piece etc were you using as bleed spec Stef

Was to lazy this beta to hardcore look into that spec when I was testing it

Edited by Darkhan1, 12 June 2012 - 05:43 PM.

[stefanplc]

I don't remember the names exactly but I got the + condition gear enchants, bleed duration and dmg I believe on weapons and crit/condition dmg for neck. Basically all the condition dmg I could find but also crit on my neck piece. The condition dmg was 10 lower than what it could have been have I gotten the full condition neck piece but my crit chance would have been like 18% vs 56% or something like that. So I went for crit as crits give you some awesome bonuses in Arms such as extra bleeds and Vulnerability. Both stacked pretty fast.

Only reason I actually played it was to get some footage for the videos so they're not boring. If I was to pick something to play in order to get the most out of it, it would have been just Greatsword Axe/Shield. Nothing else came even close to it in terms of survivability, constant damage and burst. It's the only combination where I was comfortable going in a 1v2.

[Darkhan1]

Haha, ye I tried that out myself, nerfing down to 18% crit, was like fk that

[Mackk]

VI Furious

Critical hits have a 50% chance to grant an extra adrenaline strike.

Did anyone test this out ? the wording on it doesnt really explain much, Does it Grant Extra Adrenaline on a crit or does it grant an extra attack of some kind on a crit ?

Edited by Mackk, 12 June 2012 - 07:29 PM.

[Nonplusultra]

You have three bars of adrenaline, each is comprised of 10 "strikes", so the trait should be pretty straightforward although I did not test it.

[Korain]

I am not posting this as a complaint, merely as a question for fellow Warriors.

Does anyone else feel as though Warrior traits are a little scattered and out of sync? I can't remember entirely, but I believe the build I ended up using in structured was something along the lines of 10/10/20/10/20, and even then I was completely satisfied with the build I had.

[Sir Sparhawk]

Yea I wish they would revert the flurry change. O well.

[Ivarr_Ironfist]

Korain, on 12 June 2012 - 07:50 PM, said:

I am not posting this as a complaint, merely as a question for fellow Warriors.

Does anyone else feel as though Warrior traits are a little scattered and out of sync? I can't remember entirely, but I believe the build I ended up using in structured was something along the lines of 10/10/20/10/20, and even then I was completely satisfied with the build I had.

Yes, it doesn't feel like they have quite finished the transition to the tiered trait system. I felt a lot of the third tier traits were rather lackluster, when they really should be one of the defining points of a build.

[MatchlessGlory]

Darkhan1, on 12 June 2012 - 05:14 PM, said:

As much as I love that your going bulls, frezny and bolas, been thinking about the same, I think your *ed when it comes to surviveability in tournaments, fun for random bg's tho. Also depends what specs ur using in the trees, I dont get why you spin away to deal dmg to your target, instead of weapon swaping and do a eviscerate to end em, different playstyles I guess!

I went Frenzy, bolas and bulls with a 96% win rate in tournaments. It's completely viable.

stefanplc, on 12 June 2012 - 05:21 PM, said:

I also have 20 points in defense for Balanced Stance and Endure Pain so I'm not that squishy.

As do I, good vid.

Edited by MatchlessGlory, 12 June 2012 - 08:40 PM.

[stefanplc]

I'm pretty sure balancing isn't even close to being done. Word is they're going to redesign the Bow too, which atm in sPvP doesn't really have a place. I'm sure they'll do a good job whatever they decide to do. Their work so far is a good enough example for that.

[iRockz558]

Playing tournament with my guild mates for the first time, still many things to improve. I have several thoughts how to further adjust my build, though I've realized that war horn is mostly essential for serious sPvP

Edited by iRockz558, 12 June 2012 - 09:24 PM.

[Ivarr_Ironfist]

iRockz558, on 12 June 2012 - 09:23 PM, said:

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Enjoyable video, nice to see a Warrior using a serious well thought out SPvP rather than something aimed at owning clueless people. Also nice to see some very strategic thinking as far playing the match was concerned.

The one big weakness I see in your build is a lack of condition removal, at least from what I can see. You've pretty much got all the other bases covered. If you aren't using them already I'd say Sigil Superior of Purity (60% chance to remove a condition on crit) on one weapon (probably Hammer) and Rune of Melandru (-45% condition duration, -33% stun duration and 165 Toughness) might be worth considering. Signet of Stamina is also a possibility instead of bolas, however, I think getting all three of these things might be a little excessive.

Edited by Ivarr_Ironfist, 12 June 2012 - 10:04 PM.

[Magnus Karolus]

MatchlessGlory, on 12 June 2012 - 08:38 PM, said:

I went Frenzy, bolas and bulls with a 96% win rate in tournaments. It's completely viable.




As do I, good vid.

May I ask your build/what weapons you used? Really curious, as I'm having a hard time deciding between Necro and Warrior, but I don't want to just be an Eviscerate spammer since I didn't find it all that fun.

[saladin1]

Darkhan1, on 12 June 2012 - 12:45 PM, said:

So jealous, such a tool, humor me, "I wish I could be like Darkhan"

oh please don't flatter yourself, i prob will faceroll yo ass if we ever meet in a 1v1 duel.

[Sir Sparhawk]

OH SNAP, IT JUST GOT REAL. I say next BWE you guys meet up in your special place and duke it out. What manlier way to settle things than spill each others blood. DO IT, DO IT NOW.

[Sir Sparhawk]

Ivarr_Ironfist, on 12 June 2012 - 09:59 PM, said:

Enjoyable video, nice to see a Warrior using a serious well thought out SPvP rather than something aimed at owning clueless people. Also nice to see some very strategic thinking as far playing the match was concerned.

The one big weakness I see in your build is a lack of condition removal, at least from what I can see. You've pretty much got all the other bases covered. If you aren't using them already I'd say Sigil Superior of Purity (60% chance to remove a condition on crit) on one weapon (probably Hammer) and Rune of Melandru (-45% condition duration, -33% stun duration and 165 Toughness) might be worth considering. Signet of Stamina is also a possibility instead of bolas, however, I think getting all three of these things might be a little excessive.

What one build lacks his teamates should make up for, thats the basis of teamwork. His lack of condition removal can be made up by a support player using condition removal. Just like a support players lack of damage is made up by a dps damage. You balance each other out. I look forward to playing in these tourneys. I will be dps on all my toons, most likely a dps guardian and ranger but I really wanna try a dual sword warrior.

iRockz558, on 12 June 2012 - 09:23 PM, said:

Playing tournament with my guild mates for the first time, still many things to improve. I have several thoughts how to further adjust my build, though I've realized that war horn is mostly essential for serious sPvP

Nice vid, I wouldnt say warhorn is a need for serious pvp but I agree its definitely a huge plus. My ranger will use warhorn but sadly guardian cant . My warrior might use warhorn, depends on how much I enjoy dual swords.

[Darkhan1]

saladin1, on 13 June 2012 - 12:29 AM, said:

oh please don't flatter yourself, i prob will faceroll yo ass if we ever meet in a 1v1 duel.

Sorry kids dont faceroll, they trollroll, BUT PLS CONTINUE DREAMING

Wheres your ingame video? Ooooooh thats right

Edited by Darkhan1, 13 June 2012 - 12:54 AM.

[Ivarr_Ironfist]

Sir Sparhawk, on 13 June 2012 - 12:38 AM, said:

What one build lacks his teamates should make up for, thats the basis of teamwork. His lack of condition removal can be made up by a support player using condition removal. Just like a support players lack of damage is made up by a dps damage. You balance each other out. I look forward to playing in these tourneys. I will be dps on all my toons, most likely a dps guardian and ranger but I really wanna try a dual sword warrior.

I agree in general, however, a lot of the video was him off by himself trying to ninja points. If solo ninja capper is his play style then there will be no team mates to rely on.

[Sir Sparhawk]

Ivarr_Ironfist, on 13 June 2012 - 12:54 AM, said:

I agree in general, however, a lot of the video was him off by himself trying to ninja points. If solo ninja capper is his play style then there will be no team mates to rely on.

Agreed but he should build around that playstyle as well. Sure ganking and killing opponents extremely fast is delicious but so is not dying so I am personally going to build around a sword/sword build because I hear it allows good survivability through dots. Dot them up step back and go defensive while bleeds rip their hp to shreds. He should add more survivability if he is having problems surviving. I personally see no problem solo capping/ganking, its a valuable ability if done right.

[Sir Sparhawk]

Darkhan1, on 13 June 2012 - 12:51 AM, said:

Sorry kids dont faceroll, they trollroll, BUT PLS CONTINUE DREAMING

Wheres your ingame video? Ooooooh thats right

Ingame video means you have skill? Dont be stupid. Idc about your guys argument personally but comments like that are foolish, Im betting Im better than 90% of the players who pvp and I dont know how to make a video. Like I said next BWE why not just meet to the side of a map or set up a 2v2 and duke it out. It isnt hard.

[Sir Sparhawk]

Im hoping the game is close to completion, Im tired of waiting but sadly I am a gw fan so I really have no choice if I wanna play it. I just hope it doesnt take to much longer.

Magnus Karolus, on 12 June 2012 - 11:10 PM, said:

May I ask your build/what weapons you used? Really curious, as I'm having a hard time deciding between Necro and Warrior, but I don't want to just be an Eviscerate spammer since I didn't find it all that fun.

It seems he uses the same weapon/utility setup as most warriors, frenzy, bola, bulls, juggernaut sig, axe, greatsword combo. Its fotm and one I wont be running. I will stick with my dual swords and frenzy, idk if Ill bother with the other 2 tho. I have to see my options.

[taugrim]

MatchlessGlory, on 12 June 2012 - 08:38 PM, said:

I went Frenzy, bolas and bulls with a 96% win rate in tournaments. It's completely viable.

For a melee build those 3 traits make sense together.

I don't know why other people think they wouldn't work in tourneys.

As a melee you need multiple sources to root / knockdown your opponent to land the heavy-hitting abilities.

[stefanplc]

If you're playing greatsword, you get A LOT of survivability from its mobility. If things get rough you just spin away and then rush to gain even more distance. With 20 points in defense to get Stability and Endure Pain you're already not quite as squishy or stun lockable and you have 200 extra toughness. In almost every spec that I played I went 20 points in defense and 20 points in discipline for the weapon swap and to break out from imobilize. The only builds where I didn't put 20 points in disciplines were the ones where I didn't switch weapons all that often such as sword/sword with sword/shield or any variation of rifle.

[Bebylos]

Great video i enjoy it much!
Heres mine.



Its unedited on a sPvP match that im dying 2 times only in 10 mins and top scorer in everything and thats why i totaly agree that this spec is viable anywhere, its all about be in the right place the right time and keep your cooldowns in a way you will always get out of a situation if you feeling streesed up. Of course in tournaments you will not going like rambo except its in your tactics!

Although i liked sword/sword-rifle condition dmg spec better!

Edited by Bebylos, 13 June 2012 - 07:21 AM.

[stefanplc]

Matale 2 is my second montage of Warrior Structured PvP clips from Guild Wars 2, Beta Weekend 2. I used several different weapons in the video such as Swords, Axes, Maces, Greatsword, Hammer, Shield and Rifle.

Read the video description on YouTube for more info on builds, music, weapons and so forth.



You can see my Structured PvP Warrior review and response to all the "Hundred Blades is OP" threads @ http://www.guildwars...warrior-review/

You can also see Matale 1 here:
http://www.guildwars...2-warrior-spvp/
or here:


Still have more footage for about 2 maybe even 3 more videos from BWE2 of equal length and quality. If you liked these first 2 make sure to check them out! Thanks!

[stefanplc]

Bebylos, on 13 June 2012 - 07:21 AM, said:

Great video i enjoy it much!
Heres mine.

Pretty cool video! That's pretty similar to how many of my BGs went and that's why I ended up with so much footage. I eventually figured it would be a pretty good idea to just make a montage and only include fights were the odds were even or in their favor and I'm still left with about an hour of footage cuts! I enjoyed all the builds i played in my videos that's why I published them but greatsword and hammer were my favorite. Rifle would be right up there with them if they did something to boost up the damage.

[Silppuri]

2x Spvp games, two different teams.  First from friday, second from sunday evening.  Nothing perfect but should be fun to watch atleast:P

[MatchlessGlory]

Magnus Karolus, on 12 June 2012 - 11:10 PM, said:

May I ask your build/what weapons you used? Really curious, as I'm having a hard time deciding between Necro and Warrior, but I don't want to just be an Eviscerate spammer since I didn't find it all that fun.

I used the following build--
http://www.gw2tools....aaaa;baca;bbkYZ

If you would like you can watch my video I posted it in the Courtyard section on page 3-- http://www.guildwars...re/page__st__81

Sir Sparhawk, on 13 June 2012 - 03:59 AM, said:

It seems he uses the same weapon/utility setup as most warriors, frenzy, bola, bulls, juggernaut sig, axe, greatsword combo. Its fotm and one I wont be running. I will stick with my dual swords and frenzy, idk if Ill bother with the other 2 tho. I have to see my options.

Very presumptuous of you. I used the Rifle over the Axe because I felt it provided more for my team. Few people use Rampage, if that's what you mean by Juggernaut.

Regardless Warriors are a Strong Burst Melee dps class, it shouldn't be surprising for people to play the class as the role it was designed for. Some of the discontent I read about Warrior burst and Axe/Greatsword is laughable.

taugrim, on 13 June 2012 - 05:08 AM, said:

For a melee build those 3 traits make sense together. I don't know why other people think they wouldn't work in tourneys. As a melee you need multiple sources to root / knockdown your opponent to land the heavy-hitting abilities.

Yea I'm not sure why people would think this either. Although if you don't rune/gear/trait properly it could leave you vulnerable.

Edited by MatchlessGlory, 13 June 2012 - 09:38 AM.

[Darkhan1]

Sir Sparhawk, on 13 June 2012 - 03:54 AM, said:

Ingame video means you have skill?

Pretty much yeah

[Scribbles]

This video isn't that interesting. It's a clipshow of you blowing all your cooldowns to burst down one guy over and over.

I mean, you kill a guy, but what about the battle? What about the fight? If you want to make a PvP video, show PvP. Not a selection of cherrypicked clips that show people dying really fast. That's not PvP. That's a clipshow.