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Poll: When will you have gotten your money's worth? (577 member(s) have cast votes)

When will you have gotten your money's worth?

  1. I've already gotten my money's worth. (174 votes [30.16%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.16%

  2. After playing it for 1-31 days post-release. (122 votes [21.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.14%

  3. Only if it's still enjoyable 1-6 months post-release. (118 votes [20.45%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.45%

  4. Only if it's still enjoyable 6-12 months post-release. (37 votes [6.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.41%

  5. Only if it's still enjoyable 1+ years post-release. (36 votes [6.24%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.24%

  6. Only if Arenanet delivers on what they've sold the game to be. (82 votes [14.21%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.21%

  7. Other (will explain in post). (8 votes [1.39%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.39%

Are there any additional costs you will factor into playing GW2?

  1. I will buy gems for the gem shop. (343 votes [28.82%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.82%

  2. I (will) have bought, built, or upgraded my PC. (240 votes [20.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.17%

  3. I have upgraded my internet connection. (34 votes [2.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.86%

  4. I will buy or upgrade my mobile device for the "Extended Experience." (49 votes [4.12%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.12%

  5. I will buy the expansions. (501 votes [42.10%])

    Percentage of vote: 42.10%

  6. Other (will explain in post). (23 votes [1.93%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.93%

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#1 Frakov

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 09:21 PM

Whether you bought the standard, deluxe, collector's edition, whatever, when do you feel you've gotten your money's worth?

With Guild Wars 2 following an unusual B2P model more commonly seen in non-MMOGs, players are likely to have different expectations of what they paid for.

#2 Tadrith

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 09:27 PM

I feel that I have already gotten my money's worth.  Between the BWEs and the Stress Tests, I have spent a similar amount of time playing as I typically would in any $60 single player game.

As far as additional costs, the way they're worded is fairly unequivocal and it is difficult to say these things so far in advance, but I am reasonably sure that I will be buying expansions.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 09:28 PM

I already have my moneys worth with the pre-order!
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 09:32 PM

Pre-purchased Collector's Edition, and feel I have already gotten my money's worth just by playing the BETA's and stress tests so far. I generally count at a $1/H ratio, and so far I've had 80+ hours into the game. $80 is what the game would be worth (the rest of the cost of the CE goes into physical items). So gameplay-wise I'd say I've already gotten my money's worth out of it, and this is only the beginning. I have yet to receive the physical items, I have one more BWE to play, and release next month.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 09:35 PM

I'll have my money's worth when the game is released.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 09:36 PM

1-6 months for me, feels like a good ratio. Also I will buy all expansion for certain and even maybe spend some money on ingame items if there are any good ones.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 09:45 PM

I don't measure time with money in that sense, otherwise I'd have to call everybody who goes to movies, concerts, sport games, ect.. an idiot.

No.. not time spent, but the quality of the thing I'm paying for. The quality dictates whether I think X deserves my money. I played 50 hours of Diablo 3, but ultimately I thought the loot system and endgame sucked, and that is what the game was all about. They didn't deserve my $60, so I got a refund.

Edited by Haterx732, 02 July 2012 - 10:02 PM.


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Posted 02 July 2012 - 09:45 PM

Assuming I'm going to spend a similar amount of money, Gw2 should keep me entertained for about as long as GW1.  If I'm being particularly demanding, a sequel should be superior to the original, so I should get more entertainment for the same price.

#9 nverbe

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 09:52 PM

I will have gotten my moneys worth after the second month of game time begins.  At that point it will have been more economical than many other games (since most subscription based games give you a month free)

if you think you've already gotten your moneys worth now, ask yourself  "would I be content if they announced that they were scrapping the project tomorrow?"

Edited by nverbe, 02 July 2012 - 09:52 PM.


#10 Tadrith

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 09:59 PM

View Postnverbe, on 02 July 2012 - 09:52 PM, said:

if you think you've already gotten your moneys worth now, ask yourself  "would I be content if they announced that they were scrapping the project tomorrow?"
There's a difference between feeling you got your money's worth and being content with not being able to play anymore.  If they announced they were scrapping the project tomorrow, I wouldn't feel the need to get my money back, but I would be disappointed that I would no longer be able to play.

#11 Cr0w

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 10:00 PM

I will have my moneys worth on day 1 of the 3 day head start :)

#12 Novean

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 10:02 PM

I've already gotten my money's worth from the BwEs.
The release is just a bonus now :P

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 10:04 PM

great poll, op!

If I can absolutely help it, the only thing extra i will be purchasing with my credit card will be expansions. Really would like to get my gems via in-game gold trading.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 10:06 PM

I voted other because It will depend on how much fun I'm having.
Who knows I can get my moneys worth if I meet the best friends of my life on day 1.

as for other costs, I already upgraded my pc if that counts and I will likely buy expansions.

gems will depend on how useful they really are I may never buy them if I feel that doing dungeons and stuff is easier.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 10:07 PM

In reality nobody can have got their money's worth by playing two BWE and two stress tests without being really easily pleased. Surely? Roughly 5 days worth of gameplay to get your money's worth is being really easily pleased!  :o

#16 Zero_Soulreaver

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 10:08 PM

Considering I love GW and knew what I was paying for, I can say I got my moneys worth.  When the game releases it will be even more hype for me.

The BWEs are the most fun I have had in any recent MMO.

#17 Flaming_Foxx

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 10:08 PM

I already have my moneys worth from playing BWE2 alone.
The nostalgia factor from GW1 and the whole this is something new and amazing to explore part have already made my purchase well worth it ^_^.

I'm going to avoid spending real money on things if I can help it, but I don't mind shelling out for extra character slots or anything else that really strikes me.

Any expansions they release are considered to be already paid for as far as I am concerned xD. (As in, if they release them, I will buy them)

#18 nverbe

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 10:09 PM

View PostTadrith, on 02 July 2012 - 09:59 PM, said:

There's a difference between feeling you got your money's worth and being content with not being able to play anymore.  If they announced they were scrapping the project tomorrow, I wouldn't feel the need to get my money back, but I would be disappointed that I would no longer be able to play.

This is the basic criterion I ask myself whenever I'm considering if I've gotten my moneys worth from anything or something similar.  Sometimes it's yes and sometimes it's no. I definitely would ask for my money back though, but I'm certainly happy that you're satisfied with what you've been given already!

#19 Flaming_Foxx

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 10:10 PM

View PostiType, on 02 July 2012 - 10:07 PM, said:

In reality nobody can have got their money's worth by playing two BWE and two stress tests without being really easily pleased. Surely? Roughly 5 days worth of gameplay to get your money's worth is being really easily pleased!  :o

I don't think its necessarily down to them being easily pleased, it involves a large amount of future sight as well. If you played in the BWE's and you absolutely loved it (like me) then you already know you're going to love it at launch and be playing it for a long time, so in that respect people have already gotten their money's worth.

#20 Zero_Soulreaver

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 10:14 PM

Well you may as well have gotten your moneys worth cuz you can't get it back :P

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 10:23 PM

Got the DD copy and feel like I have already played my money's worth. The beta's have been amazing and extremely fun.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 10:24 PM

While I understand emotionally the people who are saying that they feel they've already gotten their money's worth, I guess that just doesn't seem realistic to me.  Don't get me wrong, I've adored every moment of the BWE's and stress tests, and I've been crushed every time they ended that I couldn't keep playing.  The experience so far has been phenomenal.

But I suppose I expect more from an MMO of GW2's caliber than a few short weekends of fun.  I invest emotionally in the few MMO's that I play (up until now just GW1 and Star Trek Online) because they give me an intense emotional experience that lasts for months and years.  I don't have to play the game daily, but I do need to remain interested and emotionally involved for a longer period of time for me to feel like an MMO is "worth it."  Which is why I picked 6-12 months in the poll.

That said, I fully expect to "get my money's worth" out of GW2, without a doubt. :)  I just hope that my interest in the game remains high after a few months, when I've played lots of characters and probably gotten several of them to max level.  PvP doesn't interest me much (WvW may be an exception, though), so I'll have to hope that the people at ANet are correct about the "fun-ness" of the content essentially becoming its own endgame! :)

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 10:51 PM

View PostiType, on 02 July 2012 - 10:07 PM, said:

In reality nobody can have got their money's worth by playing two BWE and two stress tests without being really easily pleased. Surely? Roughly 5 days worth of gameplay to get your money's worth is being really easily pleased!  :o

A lot of people view it comparing to other game genres that cost $60. Most $60 games today you are lucky to get 25-30hours worth of gameplay out of it, so when people have played GW2 BWEs for 50-100 hours they see it as more value for their money than a typical game. Now when looking at traditional mmos this seems off, but GW2 doesn't have a subscription fee so people are more willing to make this comparison. And this is without all features implemented and about half, if not a little bit more, of the areas are still locked.
(I personally didn't vote this in the poll, but just trying to explain it.)

Edited by The Eggman, 02 July 2012 - 10:53 PM.


#24 Zephire

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 11:09 PM

In some ways I feel like I already got my money's worth out of the BWE's, though I said within a month in the poll simply because I purposely stopped progressing through my personal story in BWE1 and once I get through that, I will have my money's worth :P

Also, compared to a lot of games that come out now, I got more content that I enjoyed and replay value in the two BWE's and stress tests for $80 than I'd get in a $60 game. And because I feel like I'm getting my money's worth out of GW2, I will be buying gems from the shop. I don't mind putting extra money into a game when I feel like the upfront cost was worth it. And when even with purchasing gems will work out to pennies-per-hour with how much I expect to play GW2, I consider it well worth my money. Much more so than a lot of other activities. Same goes with expansions.

I did spend extra money on hardware and peripherals, though. Granted the graphics card and new PSU were needed anyway and not specific for GW2, and a new headset was needed to replace my crappy old one. But I will be getting a Logitech G600 specifically for GW2. I'll use it for other games, of course, but GW2 is the primary reason for that self-indulgent purpose ;)

#25 Kurko

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 11:13 PM

So 30% of the voters would be happy if they never could play again? Fanboysim is hard on this topic. Personally, I've gotten my moneys worth if the game can keep me playing for more than a year.

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 11:20 PM

When it comes to "money's worth" time isn't really a fair factor. It's sure important because I want a game that lasts forever, but it's quality that makes money's worth.

Sorta like Diablo 3. I could continue playing that for months and months yet I believe it to be one of the worst games ever conceived, thus meaning time spent doesn't mean much at all. For Guilds wars 2, though, I could only play for a total of 20 hours and get my money's worth, because it's so damn fun to play!

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 11:20 PM

View PostKurko, on 02 July 2012 - 11:13 PM, said:

So 30% of the voters would be happy if they never could play again? Fanboysim is hard on this topic. Personally, I've gotten my moneys worth if the game can keep me playing for more than a year.

Yay now people will use fanboy as a term for more obnoxious reasons. Some one doesn't agree with you, fanboy, some one likes how a mechanic is, fanboy, someone feels that they got their $60-80 money worth from the BWE (when compared to most normal games has given more game time per dollar), fanboy. Seriously its getting old and to the point where if someone uses the term, it is better to just ignore them if they are going to use that as an argument tool. Going by these forums you are either a blind fanboy or a dictator troll.

Whether it is by quality or time played, this is purely a subjective matter that will differ between person to person. Just like not everyone will like or love the game, some will dislike it or hate it.

And before you go calling me one, I did not vote for that option and I have my list of complaints about the game. I just find anyone using either terms for arguments/discussions ignorant.

Edited by The Eggman, 02 July 2012 - 11:21 PM.


#28 Gorwe

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 11:23 PM

When I will hold it in my hands. And only then. Fulfilled promises are a plus(BIG one, mind you).

And if it's anything Like GW 1, I'll be in it for a looooong time(above a year, without expansions). But I am not bonkers about GW 2. There will still be GW 1, WoW, DoW 1/2, TESs, LoL(order is NOT random). Anyways...

#29 Vihsk

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 11:23 PM

How can anyone say they've got their moneys worth so far? £50 for a few weekends play? Do me a favour. I'm looking forward to this game as much as anyone else but I don't see how anyone can say that, other than perhaps the die hard fanboys I guess.

If i'm still playing after a few months with minimal gem spending, then i'll be closer to my monies worth. If i'm still playing when expansions are released, of course i'll be in line for them (figuratively speaking).

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Posted 02 July 2012 - 11:34 PM

I voted 1-31 days of playtime.  Realistically, to me, 31 days of playtime for the initial purchase of the MMO box is "standard for getting moneys worth", I mean, that is pretty standard for the industry.... everything past that is pure, free awesome gravy.  

As for extra costs, I voted "will buy the expansions" simply because even though we don't know what those will look like or contain, I bought all the GW1 expansions and liked them, so I will give them the benefit of the doubt.  If I see one f*king panda though all bets are off.

I don't know about gems tbh.  I have never been into dressing up my characters but if they have a rockin fedora I just may bite.





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