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#1381 Cube

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 12:29 PM

I really dislike it because I work in a richer area and they are incredibly pretentious a lot of them. I have just come to the understanding that I don't enjoy working in a job like that, where you are serving someone. It's of course different for everyone, thought!

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 01:28 PM

I could see how working in a richer area would be a problem. Those people can definitely be snobs to say the least.

I'll go back and start taking master level courses over the next few years. Just need to make sure the wife and I are settled down before I start. Lot hard to find another teaching job with master courses under your belt. Of course I got marked off on my evaluation last year because I wasn't taking any master level courses. >.> Cause that totally had a negative effect on my teaching. <.< Oh I also got marked off because I wasn't on a committee. (Committee's generally meet after school for an hour, I used that time to help students instead so f me right?) [As a note, I still got a good evaluation. Out of the like 60-80 things we are marked on, I think I only missed like 4 or 5 marks, 2 of those being the ones I listed]

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 06:13 PM

Cute is a slight mistranslation of kawaii but it is close enough. It is really closer to adorable than what "cute" means in english. It is a pretty specific word that cute just doesn't portray.

Translating words into english is hard since a word can have so many different meanings/connotations and uses in english.

View PostCorsair, on 29 July 2014 - 06:35 AM, said:

Aaand in other news.


Going back to school is weird in that it feels like I haven't left. Even though I worked for the last 3 years almost fulltime (hours fluctuate throughout the year, but most of the time it was 30+). I almost forgot what it was like to truly know I knew shit better than most of the people around me. I know it sounds arrogant, but dayum, so many of the people in my Astronomy class seem slow to me... And programming has been pretty smooth sailing while I end up helping people in a table radius around me.

It's nice to feel better than people, but I worry about it giving me a big head sometimes.

Well yea, Astronomy is the common "I don't want to actually take a class and talking about stars sounds easy" class.

I will probably be going back for my masters soon, though I have to figure out which specific degree I want… again.

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Posted 30 July 2014 - 01:21 AM

I'm hoping I can make my masters degree in biology, and not education. I would rather get a further understanding of the subject I teach vs more theory of how things should work in a classroom. Most of the professors have these great "theories" that should work awesome, but don't work at all because it isn't a perfect world.

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 02:03 AM

Most of the people I know only pursued anything higher than a bachelor's because they couldn't decide what to do with their lives.

"Um...so I'm out of school and finally have to make a decision on what I want to do...NOPE TOO SCARED RUN BACK TO SCHOOL!"

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 08:24 AM

View PostCube, on 29 July 2014 - 09:00 AM, said:

Actually I have decided that I'm going to start school again too. I have worked for 4 months and I already regret dropping out of school. Retail is the shittiest thing I have ever done, lol. But at least it made me realize what I REALLY wanted to do!
Going back to school and get good education can be the key to get a better job yes. Only advice I would give try not to prolong the studies and during summers try to get summer jobs for example in retail also...

View PostKamatsu, on 29 July 2014 - 08:11 AM, said:

LOL Get back to me when your helping ppl doing their Masters & PhD's and your only doing a lowly Bachelor's Degree.... and then maybe we will have something to discuss. Till then, get back in your corner you example of inferior spludge! :P

Don't worry about getting a big head, always realize that there is always someone better, smarter, quicker, etc than you. Always.
I am Bachelor's Degree Engineer... however you can improve also doing certificates. My "summer job" has not offered me any training whatsoever but later in autumn when I start at my new workplace I do know it is possible to do certificates. It is not paradise though all studying for a certificate you have to do on your free time and this is in addition to full time work.

View PostCube, on 29 July 2014 - 12:29 PM, said:

I really dislike it because I work in a richer area and they are incredibly pretentious a lot of them. I have just come to the understanding that I don't enjoy working in a job like that, where you are serving someone. It's of course different for everyone, thought!
Aha can not resist to tease... if I seriously think of maybe buy yet another apartment late this year towards end of year perhaps and tell it in the forums does it make me a rich and pretentious ;) ? If I do that then my plan is to rent 3 apartments(currently I rent 2) to other people. According to the law in my country if you rent 4 or more apartments to other people then you MUST register a company and you are bound by Entrepreneur rules and its taxation system etc.

Thats the golden rule in my country. If I rent 3 apartments to other people I can still avoid registering my own company.

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 02:29 PM

View PostKattar, on 31 July 2014 - 02:03 AM, said:

Most of the people I know only pursued anything higher than a bachelor's because they couldn't decide what to do with their lives.

"Um...so I'm out of school and finally have to make a decision on what I want to do...NOPE TOO SCARED RUN BACK TO SCHOOL!"

My wife has her masters because the national lab she interned at paid for it. Otherwise she would have gone straight to looking for a job. For some reason teaching, which is such a highly paid job, is one where they push you to get your masters degree. Yes they help out a little bit in getting it, but it certainly is not a free ride.

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Posted 31 July 2014 - 08:14 PM

I currently work for a company that will pay for my Grad school 100% as long as I maintain a B average. Which is amusing, because you have to maintain a B average to not get kicked out of most grad schools. I just have to work for the company for 18 months afterwards and if I quit I have to pay them back. A masters degree in my fields would cause a significant bump in salary and I would graduate along the same time that I would be taking the test to get my PE license which would be another significant bump.

The issue is I have several avenues I could take. MBA, MS, MCE, MENE, MEM. (civil engineering, environmental engineering, engineering management). If I go into one of the engineering ones I would also have to pick or develop a concentration. MENE has 20 concentrations all on its own. None of them lock my future career path in stone, but am MEM is going to be more useful if I start my own company or rise up to upper management while the MS is better for continuing in R&D and the MCE/MENE would be best if I move from R&D into an engineering department. Though a PE matters way more than a masters degree there. Way more. Yay civil engineering drawings! (I get a stamp!)



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View PostFeathermoore, on 31 July 2014 - 08:14 PM, said:

Which is amusing, because you have to maintain a B average to not get kicked out of most grad schools.
Wait what - Universities in America kick you out if your not getting a high grade? o_O

I'm wondering how your grading system works compared to ours - our scale goes High Distinction, Distinction, Credit, Pass, and Fail. So would that be A, B, C, D, and E or would it be A+, A, B, C, and D for you?

Our universities, which do everything from diploma's up to PhD's, don't kick people out of studying unless they are averaging a fail grade. So someone can be just scrapping through, but as long as they are averaging a pass level then they can stay - and this is for all level's of qualifications they teach.

I guess it might be due to the differences in society & Uni systems. You have a high population, but also a system which is geared with high uni fee's and an adversarial system to actually attain, and keep, positions in them. While here in Australia virtually everyone can go to Uni due to the fact we can get government interest-free loans to go to Uni. The way our system works is you apply for 'Hex' and the Government will pay for all the Uni fee's for you (so all you need to do is buy books, course materials, etc). You only have to pay this back once you have a job that earns over a certain amount, although you can voluntarily pay it off at anytime - and when you do start paying it off, it's taken as a small deduction from your wage, unless you voluntarily make payments.

*shrugs* I'll admit I'm still shocked to hear your Uni's will actually kick ppl out if they aren't getting high grades, but I can understand why - high pop, big demand to get in to the 'best" uni, so every Uni would want it's average grade mark to be as high as possible to encourage people to actually want to go to that Uni and not another.

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Posted Yesterday, 02:05 PM

Some will put you on probation first, give you another semester or two to get your grades/gpa up before they kick you out. Essentially for some areas you are taking up a spot that could be used by another person. So if you aren't doing well then they have no issue releasing you. I'm not sure if they do probation for master level degrees or if they just flat kick you out. Many of those programs only have X amount of slots available. They want the best in those slots, not the worst. University is not high school where "everyone" wins, it is a competition.

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View PostKamatsu, on 01 August 2014 - 04:34 AM, said:

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Depends on the level of schooling and what your department is. (It is A, B, C, D, F in the US. We skip E.)

The scale you mention doesn't line up. The best "words" for each would be Excellent, Good, OK, Bad, Terrible. A C is not a good grade. You barely skated by if you got a C. A D is not a pass. Generally a C- is around a 70%. That is the cut off for passing a class.

In most undergraduate programs that aren't "General Studies," you can not graduate with a GPA below a 2 (equivalent to a C). In other words, a D is not a passing grade. In my program, I had to have a 2.5 (C+) in order to graduate. If you drop below a 2.0 you go on probation. You usually get a semester (or two depending on your progress) to get back above a 2.0 or out you go.

Graduate school is advanced. You are supposed to be well versed and knowledgable in your field. The classes are very specialized and you usually are partnered with a professor as a mentor. Professors only have so much time so there are only so many mentors. Grad school is therefor much more selective than undergrad. If you have a specific subject you are interested in (say water systems in civil engineering) there may not be a professor that is an expert in that subject at a given grad school so it would be unlikely that you would be able to go there. You still pass the class with a C in grad school (70%), but you can't have an average across all of your classes below a B. It isn't a hard cut off line, they will take your mentor's opinion in to consideration and also your research work. You might get a semester of probation (grad school is usually much shorter so no way you get a full year), but pretty much, out you go. You are supposed to have your life together and actually be driven in the subject. If you can't put the time in to do well, not just OK, then you are wasting their time.

Grad schools often have a required undergraduate GPA of a 3.0 in order to apply. This is usually a guideline and if you have worked for a while in the industry they really don't pay attention to the GPA at all. But, you still usually have to have a 3.0 (B). Once again, it isn't a hard cut off line, they will take your mentor's opinion in to consideration and also your research work. But pretty much, out you go. You are supposed to have your life together and actually be driven in the subject. If you can't put the time in to do well, not just OK, then you are wasting their time.

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