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#1 Frozire

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:41 AM

Any PvP Necromancer videos goes in here.

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#2 Lunatic

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 10:15 PM

This is my first video and its showing some WvW Necromancer action, let me know what ya think.


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#3 eKsar20

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 10:27 PM

Hi everybody !

First post here, i'd like to share with you a video i made from august stress test !

Feel free to comment so i can improve in my future videos !


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Posted 07 August 2012 - 12:46 AM

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#5 Mind123

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 07:53 PM

30min+ of necromancer spvp gameplay using multiple builds. Enjoy!

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 09:07 PM

My beta videos so far. Hope you enjoy it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-O6ANu2CWc

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#7 eKsar20

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 10:17 AM

Hey ! Here is my 2nd video i just made ! Hope you enjoy it !


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#8 dandelions

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 04:49 AM

Everyone condi speced :(

I think the vids would be better without pointless black and white or zoom in. And no dubstep.
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#9 eKsar20

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 10:35 AM

Everyone condi speced :(

I think the vids would be better without pointless black and white or zoom in. And no dubstep.


Just made another video with a power/staff build ! Don't know you gonna like the music though :lol:


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#10 Arcath

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 01:49 PM

All this talk about Necro is a weak Class, just wanna show we can 1vs1 against the other Classes( granted the Guardian isnt specially good in the vid, atleast not at Cleanse) I wll be putting up Vids vs Mesmer, Thief and Ranger soon.


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Posted 12 August 2012 - 04:49 PM

All this talk about Necro is a weak Class, just wanna show we can 1vs1 against the other Classes( granted the Guardian isnt specially good in the vid, atleast not at Cleanse) I wll be putting up Vids vs Mesmer, Thief and Ranger soon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nls4DZpKG7E&feature=plcp


2 things.

1st- have you even looked at the video after uploading it? It's like watching a vid when you're drunk. The screen is moving all over the place.

2nd- The guardian was afk when you started to fight him, and yeah, you can clearly see he probably never played the class before.

So while i do agree with you that necro isn't weak, and that it can 1v1 other classes i think you could have provided a more reliable\better footage to prove your point. Showing that fight is just opening up yourself for comments along the lines of " you've played against noobs, so ofc you can 1v1. Show footage against skilled players or go home..." something like that.

My suggestion, look at the vids you upload after you upload them. I almost got sick looking at your vid rofl. Dizzy ftl!
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#12 Arcath

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 05:50 PM

Hehe yea but its actually an Effect to answer point 1 and to answer Point 2: Its a tournament fight Final Roundand my chillblain Mark wakes him up but thats as far as the "afk" goes. His bad play however is that as a Guardian he should never let me stack upto 12 Bleeds EVER & also I time my Corrupt Boon right after he uses his main Buffs.

ps: I kinda liked the effect however taste differs
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Posted 12 August 2012 - 08:56 PM

Stress Test 2012-08-12 Necromancer PoV.

1st match.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iQkgr0NDnY&feature=player_embedded

2nd match.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pIa_MX36Dk&feature=player_embedded

3rd match.
http://www.youtube.c...?v=ZPcoP66dy2Y

Edit: I know I'm not using #4 enough to control the flow of conditions, my second time on the necromancer, so still getting used to it.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 09:55 PM

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#15 Wallach

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 12:22 AM

All this talk about Necro is a weak Class, just wanna show we can 1vs1 against the other Classes( granted the Guardian isnt specially good in the vid, atleast not at Cleanse) I wll be putting up Vids vs Mesmer, Thief and Ranger soon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nls4DZpKG7E&feature=plcp


Haha, this video is probably going to make some people nauseous.
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#16 Tzantza

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 07:49 AM

Haha, this video is probably going to make some people nauseous.

It's that blasted youtube feature playing tricks on people whos not used to using youtube :D
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#17 styken

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 09:28 AM

All this talk about Necro is a weak Class, just wanna show we can 1vs1 against the other Classes( granted the Guardian isnt specially good in the vid, atleast not at Cleanse) I wll be putting up Vids vs Mesmer, Thief and Ranger soon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nls4DZpKG7E&feature=plcp


i just saw 5s of video. dont know if you notice but people arent really complain about the condition build of Necro. that build you use is the one is good, make a video of a dagger build or MM and that will be apreciated. more videos with the most used and sucessfull build we dont need, we have the top Necro team players using that same build man

i didnt even check but peobably you used 30curses + 10 BM + 30 SR and rabid amulet and the 3 mix of runes to increase to 40% condition duration, that is what almost every Necro use necause is by far our best build now.

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#18 Arcath

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 10:03 AM

i just saw 5s of video. dont know if you notice but people arent really complain about the condition build of Necro. that build you use is the one is good, make a video of a dagger build or MM and that will be apreciated. more videos with the most used and sucessfull build we dont need, we have the top Necro team players using that same build man

i didnt even check but peobably you used 30curses + 10 BM + 30 SR and rabid amulet and the 3 mix of runes to increase to 40% condition duration, that is what almost every Necro use necause is by far our best build now.


No and No

I run in this video and as of late 30 Curses,10 Death,10 Blood, 20 SR (Stability Nerf makes that pointless) so many ppl here makes so bad Condition Builds its just insane. To get most out of a bleed build u want many Bleeds fast, not for a long time. With Guardians on the other side that becomes pointless.

And tbh no1 on Necro forums these days do any MM,Dagger builds because they simple are bad builds. Power vids I put up before & this time I put up a video to clearly demonstrate how to fight 2 tough Classes: Guardian & Warrior (with HB+Evicerate) I avoid Hb but get hit by 5k Evicerate. Why only 5k ?? yea cause unlike most numbnuts in here I dont forget Toughness. Stacking Vitality does absolutely nothing vs Warriors they eat thro it anyway, get Toughness and use the fact that Necro has highest HP-base pool.

But hey show me some vids that work other then Condition ?? I havent seen any since BWE2 and I doubt I will, lately here (above) Iv seen so called Power builds useing Scepter and I ask myself are they really serious ? Axe is the only Power/Crit option. Dagger is a waste of time, so is Minions when hit by any kind of AoE.

Until ArenaNet gives us more options Condition build is the only viable option, just adapt or we see more rerollers.

btw: I took away the shakes (did suit all)
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#19 styken

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 11:40 AM

No and No

I run in this video and as of late 30 Curses,10 Death,10 Blood, 20 SR (Stability Nerf makes that pointless) so many ppl here makes so bad Condition Builds its just insane. To get most out of a bleed build u want many Bleeds fast, not for a long time. With Guardians on the other side that becomes pointless.

And tbh no1 on Necro forums these days do any MM,Dagger builds because they simple are bad builds. Power vids I put up before & this time I put up a video to clearly demonstrate how to fight 2 tough Classes: Guardian & Warrior (with HB+Evicerate) I avoid Hb but get hit by 5k Evicerate. Why only 5k ?? yea cause unlike most numbnuts in here I dont forget Toughness. Stacking Vitality does absolutely nothing vs Warriors they eat thro it anyway, get Toughness and use the fact that Necro has highest HP-base pool.

But hey show me some vids that work other then Condition ?? I havent seen any since BWE2 and I doubt I will, lately here (above) Iv seen so called Power builds useing Scepter and I ask myself are they really serious ? Axe is the only Power/Crit option. Dagger is a waste of time, so is Minions when hit by any kind of AoE.

Until ArenaNet gives us more options Condition build is the only viable option, just adapt or we see more rerollers.

btw: I took away the shakes (did suit all)


you didnt get my point, you say most of people say Necro suck, that is true but not with condition build. the build you say is the exactly the one i say in other topics... the 30 curses + 10BM + 30SR (not for foot in grave but to reduce the CD od DS just for 5s to use as a Break stun ( will be great now since seem they will remove complete that stupid 3s obligation time you need to be in DS). if you dont want spend 30 SR points on DS because in fact foot grave was amazing and not anymore you can spend just 20 on SR and put the extra 10 points on BM (transfusion + mark evasion) or in DM ( greater marks).

the thing you have that is somewhat diferent from the other condition build is the plague signet, IMO is amazing utility skill for a condition build and a must for condition builds. plague signet and corrupt boon both i have always, the other one i use blood is power or epidemic. we can change them on sPvP so if you are on trebutchet and see one guy aproach you you can change epidemic for Blood is power and plague elite for golem, just this simple change will make you much better against single target

about runes the 40% increase duration that is just a option, guardian will not be always on your radar on tournaments even so you can do much with conditions against guardian and those runes because increase stats you use a lot (precision/malice) is another bonus.

what runes you use? the amulet wasnt the rabid amulet?

see that condition build is almost same with litle variations, is like you say the only good build we now have and thats it. i love to see DM with some great traits for condition builds (toughness is really great especially on necros that can easy avoid condition damage).

in conclusion people play Necro really know that with this build we are good, for nsome reason you see top player Necro team with those builds, the problem is the rest of builds and the lack of versatility we have, basically we have almost 0 options

Edited by styken, 13 August 2012 - 11:45 AM.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 11:42 AM

btw: I took away the shakes (did suit all)


Thanks man, it looks great now.
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Posted 13 August 2012 - 12:00 PM

you didnt get my point, you say most of people say Necro suck, that is true but not with condition build. the build you say is the exactly the one i say in other topics... the 30 curses + 10BM + 30SR (not for foot in grave but to reduce the CD od DS just for 5s to use as a Break stun ( will be great now since seem they will remove complete that stupid 3s obligation time you need to be in DS). if you dont want spend 30 SR points on DS because in fact foot grave was amazing and not anymore you can spend just 20 on SR and put the extra 10 points on BM (transfusion + mark evasion) or in DM ( greater marks).

the thing you have that is somewhat diferent from the other condition build is the plague signet, IMO is amazing utility skill for a condition build and a must for condition builds. plague signet and corrupt boon both i have always, the other one i use blood is power or epidemic. we can change them on sPvP so if you are on trebutchet and see one guy aproach you you can change epidemic for Blood is power and plague elite for golem, just this simple change will make you much better against single target

about runes the 40% increase duration that is just a option, guardian will not be always on your radar on tournaments even so you can do much with conditions against guardian and those runes because increase stats you use a lot (precision/malice) is another bonus.

what runes you use? the amulet wasnt the rabid amulet?

see that condition build is almost same with litle variations, is like you say the only good build we now have and thats it. i love to see DM with some great traits for condition builds (toughness is really great especially on necros that can easy avoid condition damage).

in conclusion people play Necro really know that with this build we are good, for nsome reason you see top player Necro team with those builds, the problem is the rest of builds and the lack of versatility we have, basically we have almost 0 options


Amulet I use is Rabid ofc, it has the 3 things u need as Condition Necro: Con-Dmg, Precision( mainly for Procs(like Earth sigils aso) and the Toughness. Runes I use 4 Krait & 2 Affliction cause the passive Bleed proc is always nice tho the low proc-chance.

You keep saying 40% Duration from runes but I guess u meen 30% (15%x2) and then ofc you can increase it by 10% on Sigil and another 20% from Trait. I however use Geomancy Sigils to AoE-Bleed on weapon swap, yet another Bleed. I like to go for more Bleeds instead of duration wich after takeing Trait + Runes is more then enough.
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Posted 13 August 2012 - 12:12 PM

No and No

I run in this video and as of late 30 Curses,10 Death,10 Blood, 20 SR (Stability Nerf makes that pointless) so many ppl here makes so bad Condition Builds its just insane. To get most out of a bleed build u want many Bleeds fast, not for a long time. With Guardians on the other side that becomes pointless.

And tbh no1 on Necro forums these days do any MM,Dagger builds because they simple are bad builds. Power vids I put up before & this time I put up a video to clearly demonstrate how to fight 2 tough Classes: Guardian & Warrior (with HB+Evicerate) I avoid Hb but get hit by 5k Evicerate. Why only 5k ?? yea cause unlike most numbnuts in here I dont forget Toughness. Stacking Vitality does absolutely nothing vs Warriors they eat thro it anyway, get Toughness and use the fact that Necro has highest HP-base pool.

But hey show me some vids that work other then Condition ?? I havent seen any since BWE2 and I doubt I will, lately here (above) Iv seen so called Power builds useing Scepter and I ask myself are they really serious ? Axe is the only Power/Crit option. Dagger is a waste of time, so is Minions when hit by any kind of AoE.

Until ArenaNet gives us more options Condition build is the only viable option, just adapt or we see more rerollers.

btw: I took away the shakes (did suit all)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OP6aS52AcsM

http://gw2skills.net...GbNuak1sEZQwUEA Power scepter build. Ask yourself again if im serious....and il answer you with a yes I am....Why dont i stack condition damage with scepter? My choices in amulets are Carrion, Shaman, Rabid, or Rampagers. Carrion and Rabids both give me the most condition damage. Carrion takes away from my toughness and rabid cripples my hp pool while adding damage to my bleeds. Shaman and rampagers are also non ideal for my spec. This leaves me with Soliders amulet increasing my toughness power and vit it is the perfect necro amulet. Now if you look at my scepter as my main damage dealer than you are mistaken, that role goes to death shroud and staff both dealing damage from range. Why would i want to compromise this range advantage by having to go closer with axe / dagger. It doesnt work for my build and my playstyle. Scepter still does damage without heavy condition damage. Feast of corruption was also hitting like a truck this past Stress test. There are many different ways to play and limiting yourself to one idea or concept is backwards progression. Experimentation is a good thing especially this early in the game. Dont rule anything out just yet.

Edited by Mind123, 13 August 2012 - 02:16 PM.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 12:28 PM

Iam sry but that video shows a diffrent stroy then the one you just told both in terms of Utility Skills and Build. Granted I havent seen all of it yet why use Spectral Skills ? Specially when you build-link clearly shows you meen to build for Life Force. I played around with alot of LF/DS builds in BWE1 & 2. And one thing I never left out was Spectral Armor to build LF, I think Signet of Spite is a complete waste of a Utility skill, for both Power, DS or Condition builds.

For building LF and if u wanna use DS as main dmg-dealer ( a Specc I like btw, but lost its appeal lately) then use the utilitys to build it fastest. Since you use the correct Trait, I dont get why you waste it with Bone Minions ( dmg is good but way to rare) and Spite Signet.

I would use:


Spectral Armor (dont rely on the one that kicks in at 50% what if you stay above ?)
Signet of Undead
Blood is Power You get the Passive Power boost as with Spite Signet but the 20% to boost LF is much better

Still most would say this is an inferior Specc to a good Condition Build, I know iam not alone just watch most vids of late. Hoever still like your Power/DS aproach.
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Posted 13 August 2012 - 12:49 PM

Iam sry but that video shows a diffrent stroy then the one you just told both in terms of Utility Skills and Build. Granted I havent seen all of it yet why use Spectral Skills ? Specially when you build-link clearly shows you meen to build for Life Force. I played around with alot of LF/DS builds in BWE1 & 2. And one thing I never left out was Spectral Armor to build LF, I think Signet of Spite is a complete waste of a Utility skill, for both Power, DS or Condition builds.

For building LF and if u wanna use DS as main dmg-dealer ( a Specc I like btw, but lost its appeal lately) then use the utilitys to build it fastest. Since you use the correct Trait, I dont get why you waste it with Bone Minions ( dmg is good but way to rare) and Spite Signet.

I would use:


Spectral Armor (dont rely on the one that kicks in at 50% what if you stay above ?)
Signet of Undead
Blood is Power You get the Passive Power boost as with Spite Signet but the 20% to boost LF is much better

Still most would say this is an inferior Specc to a good Condition Build, I know iam not alone just watch most vids of late. Hoever still like your Power/DS aproach.


You asked to see a video with different builds. The build i linked is a build i used on sunday for the stress test. Spite signet initial damage was also hitting very hard this past stress test and I really enjoyed being able to apply all those conditions as i was having no problem stacking life force. I used Blood is Power prior to Signet of Spite and enjoy both equally. Spectral armor is an amazing ability but one I have learned to live without. I can get my bone minions out 4 times before i can use SA after use. This is all personal opinion though.
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Posted 13 August 2012 - 12:53 PM

Yea its an Intresting Video absolutely. Btw how did you like the MM Build now ? Always felt it was to weak to AoE
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Posted 13 August 2012 - 12:53 PM

Dont have video, but have to agree. Myself found most succesfull 30 Spite, 30 Curses, 10 Death Magic build with Carrion/Rampage, 2x Grenth, 2xAfficted, 2xKrait. Scepter (Earth)/Focus (Geomancy Sigil) and Axe/dagger (Geomancy and Hydromancy). I could easlly stack up to 10 stack and than do good DD (last hit from Ghastly Claws for 2,6k).

I think thats no build is good or bad (mean cond or cond/power, cond/critic) it is just each of us feel better with another one. I felt the best with this above as big offensive machine and had no problem 1v1 on tournaments. And tried all other classic builds for condNecro.

Just it. PPL play better with builds they feel fit them best. Thats why we play Necro, not Thief or Ranger etc.

THERE IS NO BEST CONDITION BUILD

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 02:29 PM

Dont have video, but have to agree. Myself found most succesfull 30 Spite, 30 Curses, 10 Death Magic build with Carrion/Rampage, 2x Grenth, 2xAfficted, 2xKrait. Scepter (Earth)/Focus (Geomancy Sigil) and Axe/dagger (Geomancy and Hydromancy). I could easlly stack up to 10 stack and than do good DD (last hit from Ghastly Claws for 2,6k).

I think thats no build is good or bad (mean cond or cond/power, cond/critic) it is just each of us feel better with another one. I felt the best with this above as big offensive machine and had no problem 1v1 on tournaments. And tried all other classic builds for condNecro.

Just it. PPL play better with builds they feel fit them best. Thats why we play Necro, not Thief or Ranger etc.

THERE IS NO BEST CONDITION BUILD


sorry but for tournaments indeed exist a best condition build. PvE and random match (where almost anything will work) is a diferent story, but on tournaments exist indeed a best condition build.(with very litle variations)
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Posted 13 August 2012 - 03:18 PM

sorry but for tournaments indeed exist a best condition build. PvE and random match (where almost anything will work) is a diferent story, but on tournaments exist indeed a best condition build.(with very litle variations)


Dont lecture me. I was talking about tPvP, which I attended. And with this build I stated in previous post I was doing the best. So, no, still dont agree with you. My build for myself, was best. Wish you success with yours too.
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Posted 13 August 2012 - 03:27 PM

Dont lecture me. I was talking about tPvP, which I attended. And with this build I stated in previous post I was doing the best. So, no, still dont agree with you. My build for myself, was best. Wish you success with yours too.


if we go that way people even can say MM build is the best for tournaments or even a dagger build

generally what decided wich are the best builds are the top players of game ( isnt me for sure...) but if you see the best Necro players that use almost the same condition build on tournaments

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 03:32 PM

Still talking like you are the Only Wise. Sorry, if it bothers you that someone had successes with another variation of condition build (here Power/Condition). I dont try to convince you. I played and I know what I have done, so really dont need your approval.

I dont care about TOP players (who didnt play the game even month and admmit themselfs that they have to learn much). TOP build didnt fit my style. Mine did. And I did better, top scores, or 2nd or 3rd. So, as I said, I know what I did. Was playing beta 10th August only tournaments.

But this is off-topic. So let finish. I just made my point in my first post.

Edited by Mitsutaru, 13 August 2012 - 03:36 PM.

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