Music: GW vs FF
Posted 01 August 2012 - 06:47 AM
Posted 01 August 2012 - 07:16 AM
And as for the actual topic, they're two VERY different styles of music. You can't say it's better. Nobuo Uematsu achieves very different things from Jeremy Soule. I mean how can you say Eyes On Me has any similarities to The Streets of Whiterun. I'm a huge fan of both composers and I've got a diploma in music myself but to say that one style can be better than another style from different composers isn't really anything worth talking about.
You can say you like one of them better and have a personal preference, but you can't say that one IS better.
Posted 01 August 2012 - 07:26 AM
FF are more nostalgic.
apples and oranges.
Posted 01 August 2012 - 07:42 AM
Music is subjective, but majority of gamers will go with FF simply because its been around longer. People on a Guild Wars 2 forum might be a little bias too.
Edited by chaosdude, 01 August 2012 - 07:43 AM.
Posted 01 August 2012 - 08:00 AM
Edited by heatzzz, 01 August 2012 - 08:01 AM.
Posted 01 August 2012 - 08:27 AM
Posted 01 August 2012 - 09:31 AM
Jeremy Soule doesn't really compose the same sort of music as them, so it's really hard to compare. Though, I will admit that the only game I don't turn the volume of the music down in, is FF titles (FF13 excluded, because besides from Oerba, it's really.. not.. ugh). Even in GW2 I found myself turning the volume almost aaaall the way down.
As some other user have said, it's really apples and oranges.
Posted 01 August 2012 - 09:35 AM
Posted 01 August 2012 - 11:21 AM
Another difference is that Nobuo has been coaxing catchy tunes out of shitty synths from the nintendo chip all they way up to the not-that-great patches used in FFX (just like most of his JRPG competitors.) Meanwhile Jeremy made a name for himself not just with epic moving scores, but working with his brother to develop a very well-blended and convincing fake orchestra to realize it. Their strengths are just so different. I see Nobuno being more popular just because he is more pop oriented rather than classical/score, he has churned out a huge pile of way more memorable tunes, even if they aren't always particularly emotional or even fit the scene. (I'm looking at you, "eyes on me")
Edited by FoxBat, 01 August 2012 - 11:30 AM.
Posted 01 August 2012 - 11:25 AM
Posted 01 August 2012 - 11:28 AM
Edited by Ankeus, 01 August 2012 - 11:28 AM.
Posted 01 August 2012 - 11:40 AM
Would you drown out a crucial dialogue scene in a romance movie with a full pop song? Because that's what happens when full volume sung vocals meet text dialogue. I don't think the complete lack of activity helped any either, there's some grand sweeping moments in the song, yet the two of them are barely moving. If there was a place for this song given the tech they had in the time, it would be in a rendered cinematic. It might have just been that I found the entire story abominable, but I don't think so. I mean, I *hated* Aeris with a vengeance, and yet the cheesy synths in her death scene still had me welling up.
Edited by FoxBat, 01 August 2012 - 11:51 AM.
Posted 01 August 2012 - 11:41 AM
Posted 01 August 2012 - 11:46 AM
Posted 01 August 2012 - 12:43 PM
Final Fantasy - Crisis Core. End cinematic actually did have voice acting. And it really was drowned out by a pop song. Just because the levels of volume were too great in contrast. If I never had subtitles on, I'd not have understood most of what was said. But it is STILL a scene that has stuck with me and was crushing. And I'm not going to say what the scene is as most people may not have played the game yet and a few of them that played Final Fantasy 7 don't know the full backstory of Cloud and Zack. (And if you don't, you've not actually played the damn game!)
Posted 01 August 2012 - 12:48 PM
Ah, Crisis Core. Such conflicting emotions.
Posted 01 August 2012 - 12:51 PM
I would go for FF/Chaos rings music anytime. Well, if its Square Enix, their music are great.
Gw2 isnt bad too, but it isnt my cup of tea. But i admit, Norn Theme is the best western Game soundtrack i have heard. Goodbye Oblivion, goodbye skyrim.
Posted 01 August 2012 - 12:52 PM
Thank god it wasn't Inon Zur or Djawadi.
This thread is a little like Spider-Man vs Batman.
Posted 01 August 2012 - 02:25 PM
Edited by KodakMoment, 02 August 2012 - 05:51 PM.
Posted 01 August 2012 - 03:44 PM
Also, I've liked Soule's work for a long time, all the way back to Secret of Evermore, so... it's kind of hard to beat my nostalgic feelings with music from a series that I don't care about (FF).
Despite that, I do like Uematsu's music. It just doesn't draw me the same way that Soule's does.
Posted 01 August 2012 - 04:30 PM
Uematsu has nostalgic, emotional music that touches the heart. FF VII/VIII scores are the best. And, of course, obligatory "Eyes on Me". I Like it VERY much.
Soule, on the other hand, has epic and symphonic music. For reference on Soule's work listen "Rise of Nerevar"(Morrowind Main theme), NWN 1 Main theme, Dungeon Siege 1+2 music and obligatory Guild Wars music. It does raise Spirit and is VERY catchy, but it does lack Soul of Nobuo's work(lack of Soul applicable only to Oblivion and later games, ie when he started merely changing Tempo and/or Dynamic of his previous scores while adding/removing instrument or two, ie he became quite lazy).
Apples and oranges really. Is Like trying to compare Black Sabbath and Robbie Williams, or more on the topic, score of Star Wars(4,5,6)/Star Trek(J.Goldsmith) to Howard Shore's LoTR score. Piontless. I Like them both(and why shouldn't I?).
Posted 01 August 2012 - 05:14 PM
Uematsuwhen it comes to music, how can you even compare anything GW2 has to
but yeah i have to agree, this thread is like saying GW2 vs Final Fantasy VII
they are both completely different games, and they are both completely different composers one is more orcestric and the other is more 80ish rock XDXD
Edited by neoryudo, 01 August 2012 - 05:19 PM.
Posted 01 August 2012 - 06:14 PM
Posted 01 August 2012 - 06:17 PM
Posted 01 August 2012 - 06:19 PM
Posted 01 August 2012 - 06:32 PM
They're very different genres and I don't really think it's fair to say "this one is better".
However, I'll say that I do enjoy listening to Nobuo's compositions more. That's not to say that Jeremy Soule is bad or anything.
(Off-topic: Nobuo's signature is tattooed on my arm. Yaayyy)
Posted 01 August 2012 - 06:34 PM
Posted 01 August 2012 - 07:07 PM
Posted 01 August 2012 - 08:00 PM
But taste is subjective so this thread should be more "which do you prefer" then "which is better".
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