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#31 Jubilee Winterfell

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 09:51 AM

damn center align text is horrible to read!

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 11:54 AM

View PostJubilee Winterfell, on 06 August 2012 - 09:51 AM, said:

damn center align text is horrible to read!

Thanks for the feedback, i changed it back but i can read center alignment quite easily which is why i did it.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 02:10 PM

really nice guide man! +1 to awesomeness.

I'm using build sword+wh / axe+torch = massive bleed stack + burn. I didnt know about 5% dmg reduction from thoughtness so I will try build with more hp and little less toughness.

At last stress test i was thinking about condi warrior (2x sword) - anyone know does his condi dmg is similar to ranger?

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 05:25 PM

good guide and a good read too :)
Thank you, Sycthrex!

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 06:22 PM

View PostMikeT, on 06 August 2012 - 05:25 PM, said:

good guide and a good read too :)
Thank you, Sycthrex!

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 07:12 PM

Love this guide.  The combo field diagram was worth the price of admission alone.  Thanks for the hard work Syc.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 07:37 PM

View PostFatalplus, on 06 August 2012 - 07:12 PM, said:

Love this guide.  The combo field diagram was worth the price of admission alone.  Thanks for the hard work Syc.

Cheers buddy!

I just updated the 'Pet's' section

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 03:18 PM

Excellent work. Liked the combo field pictures.

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 03:58 PM

View PostAbaregi, on 10 August 2012 - 03:18 PM, said:

Excellent work. Liked the combo field pictures.

Cheers mate,

I am going to be working on this further to make it more in-depth and with more pictures :)

EDIT: Woah it's pinned?

Didn't see that coming after hearing it wasn't refined enough, can the Mod who pinned it please PM me please?
I need to edit the name.

Thanks

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 06:31 PM

Edited the Combo Field section of the guide.
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Posted 11 August 2012 - 09:03 PM

View PostSephiroth, on 03 August 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

You should also emphasize that Hunter's Call, together with Earth Sigil and Sharpened Edge trait, is by far the fastest, easiest, and most reliable way to stack a bunch of bleed.  

Hey, I know I told you this, but apparently Anet found out this was OP and put a cooldown on Sigil of Earth, which pretty much ruins everything, so you should remove it.  Instead, you could say that using Hunter's Call right after activating Rampage as One can boost the pet's might stack by 16, and together with your other attacks you can increase the stack even further.

Edit: You should include off-hand dagger to the guide.

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 10:28 PM

View PostSephiroth, on 11 August 2012 - 09:03 PM, said:

Hey, I know I told you this, but apparently Anet found out this was OP and put a cooldown on Sigil of Earth, which pretty much ruins everything, so you should remove it.  Instead, you could say that using Hunter's Call right after activating Rampage as One can boost the pet's might stack by 16, and together with your other attacks you can increase the stack even further.

Edit: You should include off-hand dagger to the guide.

Yeah weapon sets are being added in the next day or two, the whole guide needs  alittle uplift, thanks for the info, much appriciated

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 03:34 PM

Updated the Guide with more in-depth Traits.
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Posted 14 August 2012 - 10:29 PM

Updated Traits and Build section fully now.
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Posted 15 August 2012 - 12:23 AM

Loved the guide, great work!

A quick question as I just realized it never crossed my mind to test this in game before!

If you equip 2 weapon sets of same type (let's say 2 Longbows), after using cooldown abilities on first one and swapping to 2nd one, will it have the abilities still on CD or they are all there ready to be used? (ie: are weapon abilities tied to weapon type or just weaponset 1 or 2).

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 01:04 AM

View PostAnelyn, on 15 August 2012 - 12:23 AM, said:

Loved the guide, great work!

A quick question as I just realized it never crossed my mind to test this in game before!

If you equip 2 weapon sets of same type (let's say 2 Longbows), after using cooldown abilities on first one and swapping to 2nd one, will it have the abilities still on CD or they are all there ready to be used? (ie: are weapon abilities tied to weapon type or just weaponset 1 or 2).

No they share the same CD unfortunately otherwise we could just chain Rapid Fire lol

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 01:21 AM

Well then, sticking to LB / S/H :D

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 07:38 PM

Updated Traits with latest changes, rest of the Guide will be re-vamped by Sunday i hope

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 08:14 PM

Am not sure but maybe this should have it's own section in the guide?

Your pets add diversity and utility to your ranger build. They can provide you with on demand conditions / controls over enemy, as well as act as a projectile blocker if you position in a line behind your pet. You get access to important conditions like blind, daze, knock down, stun, fear, immobilize, bleeds, chill, poison etc. Some of which you have direct control of via F2 key, and others cast by pet in his combat cycle. Which add a whole new dimension to ranger play in all game aspects, improving in areas your own skill sets lack, or complementing your skills sets in order to create combos (pet attacks can combo with fields, either as projectiles or leaps, not sure about blasts / whirls as I did not explore all pet abilities yet, saving it for launch day).

So in conclusion, pets play a major role in defining what you can do as a ranger and increasing the skill ceiling of the class.

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 08:25 PM

View PostAnelyn, on 16 August 2012 - 08:14 PM, said:

Am not sure but maybe this should have it's own section in the guide?

Your pets add diversity and utility to your ranger build. They can provide you with on demand conditions / controls over enemy, as well as act as a projectile blocker if you position in a line behind your pet. You get access to important conditions like blind, daze, knock down, stun, fear, immobilize, bleeds, chill, poison etc. Some of which you have direct control of via F2 key, and others cast by pet in his combat cycle. Which add a whole new dimension to ranger play in all game aspects, improving in areas your own skill sets lack, or complementing your skills sets in order to create combos (pet attacks can combo with fields, either as projectiles or leaps, not sure about blasts / whirls as I did not explore all pet abilities yet, saving it for launch day).

So in conclusion, pets play a major role in defining what you can do as a ranger and increasing the skill ceiling of the class.

Nice conclusion, mind if i steal some of your thoughts? :)

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 09:29 PM

Use anything you like / need mate, I don't mind if you rephrase it as well, and won't ask for credits either, the better the guide, the better for community and Ranger players! :) If you need help in any other areas, give me a poke by all means, I keep an eye on this forum while working (am a professional graphic designer).

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Posted 16 August 2012 - 09:30 PM

View PostAnelyn, on 16 August 2012 - 09:29 PM, said:

Use anything you like / need mate, I don't mind if you rephrase it as well, and won't ask for credits either, the better the guide, the better for community and Ranger players! :) If you need help in any other areas, give me a poke by all means, I keep an eye on this forum while working (am a professional graphic designer).

You should totally make me some awesome sauce graphics for my Youtube + Twitch account ^_^

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Posted 18 August 2012 - 11:02 AM

Sorry for being slow guys, Modding is taking up my time now but i will get this done i promise!

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 10:03 PM

First of all great job on the guide..very informative.
I have a couple questions im hoping you or others can answer...
When using the power build with LB and S/Wh do you use the sword for just the evades or also as another damage dealer when youvare in melee range? The swird's autoattack can hit for some nice damage. Maybe even save quickening zephyr for it since rapid fire is already a fast attack.
Also if i were to make a melee build with S/Wh what is ideal for a secondary weapon set? (Direct damage ofc)
I was thinking axe/dagger or axe/axe or is OH axe not viable atm? Or should i just go with GS despite the slight nerf to its damage if i were using a melee build?

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 10:54 PM

View PostDecently_Evil, on 19 August 2012 - 10:03 PM, said:

First of all great job on the guide..very informative.
I have a couple questions im hoping you or others can answer...
When using the power build with LB and S/Wh do you use the sword for just the evades or also as another damage dealer when youvare in melee range? The swird's autoattack can hit for some nice damage. Maybe even save quickening zephyr for it since rapid fire is already a fast attack.
Also if i were to make a melee build with S/Wh what is ideal for a secondary weapon set? (Direct damage ofc)
I was thinking axe/dagger or axe/axe or is OH axe not viable atm? Or should i just go with GS despite the slight nerf to its damage if i were using a melee build?

Thanks ^_^

I pretty much explain it in my Build section don't i?
The sword's auto attack and deal some really nice damage, especially when used with a Pet Heavy Build because of Pounce but yes i sometimes use QS for that little burst at the end and it also speeds up the time it takes to Stomp someone which is a nice bonus :)

Axe/OH Axe is a nice viable weapon now due to the changes in Vulnerability and how Whirling Defense now works which can stack up to 12 stacks of Vulnerability :)

As for GS, i have not had chance to try it out really, never been much of a Melee guy so i chose Sword for Pounce mainly for my Spirit Support Build but i also like it's evades

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 11:20 AM

nice guide, it rly helped me to figure out how to grow up with a ranger but i have a question: how would u set up the major traits in the power based build now that most of em are changed?
also is steady focus rly worth it? i mean as power based we're like fragile so we have to dodge most of times: will we rly have endurance full during a battle? :S (i just wonder cuz i still havent tried the game so i dunno if it regens fast enough to take it)

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 11:27 AM

View Postanadyel, on 23 August 2012 - 11:20 AM, said:

nice guide, it rly helped me to figure out how to grow up with a ranger but i have a question: how would u set up the major traits in the power based build now that most of em are changed?
also is steady focus rly worth it? i mean as power based we're like fragile so we have to dodge most of times: will we rly have endurance full during a battle? :S (i just wonder cuz i still havent tried the game so i dunno if it regens fast enough to take it)

We have ways of keeping our Endurance up, like Lightning Reflexes and Natural Vigor so Steady Focus is a little bit more viable this way, and with the LB we are supposed to be at ranged and hopefully not being focused but for those that have a playstyle that like to get up close and personal or are prone to having quite a few 1v1s then this trait would need to be changed.

My builds are only a starting block for players, you can change traits around and Utility Skills to better suit your style, as for the trait section i've not had chance to revise my builds since the patch, this is something i am looking in to.

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 08:37 PM

So tired!

Not had chance to look at this again, but now that launch is upon us i will try and get this done over the next week, i fail i know.

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 08:48 AM

Hey i might be blind and din't read it but was wondering something...

You've been talking about the traits and the weapons as two different things.  But isn't there a best "trait" set for a weapon set you use?

for example, if you favor the longbow or the shortbow, the Markmanship trait's are obviously the better option.
But what is the best option if you would choose to use sthe Sword/torch sword/horn combo?

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Posted 28 August 2012 - 02:05 PM

View PostMysticus, on 28 August 2012 - 08:48 AM, said:

Hey i might be blind and din't read it but was wondering something...

You've been talking about the traits and the weapons as two different things.  But isn't there a best "trait" set for a weapon set you use?

for example, if you favor the longbow or the shortbow, the Markmanship trait's are obviously the better option.
But what is the best option if you would choose to use sthe Sword/torch sword/horn combo?

greetz,
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It depends on what you want from your character, Power, Condition etc

Just reading the Traits will give you some insight on what line you want to go down.

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