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#1 ashleigh mcmahon

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 11:57 AM

Hi all,

As some of you may know i'll be upgrading to a HD 7850 within the next few weeks in preparation for GW 2.

Just having a quick look on google, I notice a big variety in different brands, aswell as big pricing margins.

My local computer shop recomended to me the Windforce HD 7850, but looking on google price comparison this is around £190, whereas the ASUS HD 7850 is priced as around £150 (The saving here would freely allow me to upgrade my RAM by another 4GB without breaking the bank).

So basically my question is, what do I look for in brands? Is there much of a difference? I haven't really got the time to look at each individual brand and try spot the difference in the spec so i'm hoping anyone in the know could shed some light on this!

Thank you!
Ash


EDIT: Turns out there actually isn't that huge of a pricing difference, as the shops listing around the £150 price mark were excluding tax out of the advertised price. Sneaky

Edited by ashleigh mcmahon, 04 August 2012 - 12:01 PM.


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Posted 04 August 2012 - 12:04 PM

The Windforce is a Gigabyte card, heavily overclocked.  Where are you getting a 7850 for £150 btw?

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 12:06 PM

View PostSuperNova, on 04 August 2012 - 12:04 PM, said:

The Windforce is a Gigabyte card, heavily overclocked.  Where are you getting a 7850 for £150 btw?

Just edited my op, turns out the £150 was advertised pre-20% uk tax.


Ahh so the Gigabyte windforce is a good card to go for? Is it possible to overclock the card even further using the Catalyst program or will it not be neccesary?

Thanks

Edited by ashleigh mcmahon, 04 August 2012 - 12:09 PM.


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Posted 04 August 2012 - 12:15 PM

Asus is a very good brand. A friend of mine got an Asus 7850 whereas I myself got an MSI. Now, I may have just gotten a lemon, but my card's a lousy overclocker, getting nowhere near 1050 mhz core. My friend hasn't tested the limits of his card, but he can get 1050 no sweat whatsoever.

The only downside to the Asus I can think of is that it's very long due to using the 7870 heatsink iirc. So check the measurements and see if you have enough space. But unless you have all your hdd slots filled, you should have no trouble fitting the card in.

Also, about the Gigabyte cards, I've heard that their fans are very loud. I'd go with the Asus.

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 12:27 PM

My personal preferred brand is HIS but they are quite hard to find.  I'd go with the Gigabyte one simply because you know it's going to reach at least 975 MHz, which puts it very close to a 7870 in performance.

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 12:48 PM

I've recently rebuilt my gaming rig. I've sent the last 3 months reading reviews on cards and which had the best bang for the bucks. Looking at all the specs, it came clear to me that a lot has to do with personnal preference and the extra goodies that come with the cards.
I was looking at the HD 7850 and ended up with the HD 7870 OC as it gave me a little more for my money. As far as brands, every review I read had their preference. For myself, I narrowed it down to Gigabyte and Sapphire. Price was within $20. The deciding factor again was the little extras that came with the cards. Sapphire had all the wires and converter plugs included as Gigabyte did not. ( according to the vendors sites)
The biggest complaints I ever read on all the different cards was fan noise.

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 12:53 PM

View Postaptco09, on 04 August 2012 - 12:48 PM, said:

I've recently rebuilt my gaming rig. I've sent the last 3 months reading reviews on cards and which had the best bang for the bucks. Looking at all the specs, it came clear to me that a lot has to do with personnal preference and the extra goodies that come with the cards.
I was looking at the HD 7850 and ended up with the HD 7870 OC as it gave me a little more for my money. As far as brands, every review I read had their preference. For myself, I narrowed it down to Gigabyte and Sapphire. Price was within $20. The deciding factor again was the little extras that came with the cards. Sapphire had all the wires and converter plugs included as Gigabyte did not. ( according to the vendors sites)
The biggest complaints I ever read on all the different cards was fan noise.

Thanks.

Will all the wires/plugs which I currently use for my HD 5770 work with the 7850 or would I need to purchase these seperately if I decided to go with a brand which didn't already provide these?

Also is it possible to further overclock the Gigabyte cards using Catalyst? I assume coming pre-overclocked means the actual components have been adjusted to a higher 'stock' setting.

Ash

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 01:15 PM

Yes you will be able to overclock it further, but there's no guarantee it will go much further than what it is at.  What plugs you need depends on what monitor you will be using, however according to an ebuyer review on the Windforce, the package includes -

Graphics card
Driver disc
DVI>VGA adapter
Crossfire bridge
Molex to PCI-E power lead.

You wouldn't need anything else tbh as the card covers DVI, HDMI and mini-displayport and the DVI>VGA adapter means VGA is covered.  The only issue would be if you had a full displayport only screen.

Edited by SuperNova, 04 August 2012 - 01:17 PM.


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Posted 04 August 2012 - 02:31 PM

As long as your Power Supply can handle it, any HD 7850 would be a good buy for you.  Here in the USA I go by Warranty, Brand Reputation, and Cooling, essentially in that order, when I make a purchase or a recommendation to a client/friend/family etc...  

For AMD I would choose XFX due to their LIfetime Warranty, but I think they're limited or nonexistent in much of the EU.  I also <3 HIS as an excellent brand, with Sapphire, ASUS, MSI, and Gigabyte all being good buys as well.  After that (in my personal opinion) it's a slight step down for most of the other brands.

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 03:33 PM

http://www.waeplus.c...---2-GB-GDDR5--

Found a HIS 7850 with big discount, think i'll go for this one !

Thanks

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 10:39 PM

View Postashleigh mcmahon, on 04 August 2012 - 03:33 PM, said:

http://www.waeplus.c...---2-GB-GDDR5--

Found a HIS 7850 with big discount, think i'll go for this one !

Thanks

Hey mate,

Might want to check this out before buying from that site.

http://www.trustpilo...?source=toolbar

Cheers

Edited by ntnzt, 04 August 2012 - 10:40 PM.


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Posted 04 August 2012 - 10:42 PM

View Postashleigh mcmahon, on 04 August 2012 - 03:33 PM, said:

http://www.waeplus.c...---2-GB-GDDR5--

Found a HIS 7850 with big discount, think i'll go for this one !

Thanks

Don't buy from them, they are scammers.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 05:13 PM

Hi,

Yes it turns out waeplus aren't reliable through extensive bad reviews, I will shop elsewhere!

Now when it comes to RAM upgrading I could use a little help!

Below is my current memory config as shown via a program called System Info Windows.

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I wish to add another 4GB to my system. I know how to physically install the RAM but the problem is knowing the exact one to buy to ensure compatability!

If someone could point me in the right direction or possibly link me to a retailers web page it would be great.

Thanks
Ash

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 06:42 PM

For seeing if online retailers are legit or not, the best website is www.resellerratings.com .

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 11:43 PM

HIS :)

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 04:38 AM

i went with Gskill they had good reviews from new egg and great customer service seems like.

so ive been doing some reading on new egg trying to pick a brand since the MSI i went for at COMPUSA is on back order for 2 weeks. im thinking of going for a gigabyte but ive been reading reviews and it seems hard to choose i hear good and i hear bad( fan rattle games crashing after a certain amount of time terrible drivers ect) anybody have a suggestion over gigabyte they have the best bang for your buck right now in regards to a 7850 unless you count powercooler which ive never heard of.

well i found XFX but i was wondering on clock speeds when buying one does it really matter? the XFX runs at 860 and is 239$ but the GIGABYTE runs at 975 and cost 246$ could i just over clock the XFX to that speed?

Edited by hyperstalker, 08 August 2012 - 04:50 AM.


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Posted 08 August 2012 - 05:46 AM

View Posthyperstalker, on 08 August 2012 - 04:38 AM, said:

i went with Gskill they had good reviews from new egg and great customer service seems like.

so ive been doing some reading on new egg trying to pick a brand since the MSI i went for at COMPUSA is on back order for 2 weeks. im thinking of going for a gigabyte but ive been reading reviews and it seems hard to choose i hear good and i hear bad( fan rattle games crashing after a certain amount of time terrible drivers ect) anybody have a suggestion over gigabyte they have the best bang for your buck right now in regards to a 7850 unless you count powercooler which ive never heard of.

well i found XFX but i was wondering on clock speeds when buying one does it really matter? the XFX runs at 860 and is 239$ but the GIGABYTE runs at 975 and cost 246$ could i just over clock the XFX to that speed?

GSkill is arguably the best RAM company right now.  Their low profile heat spreader series, the ARES series, are amazing, especially if you have a large air cooler.  Their product support is also phenomenal, and they'll replace kits with little to no question.  Hell, they didn't even make me send back the last 8GB I needed to replace a year ago, due to me blowing it up...

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 06:43 PM

View PostLord Sojar, on 08 August 2012 - 05:46 AM, said:

GSkill is arguably the best RAM company right now.  Their low profile heat spreader series, the ARES series, are amazing, especially if you have a large air cooler.  Their product support is also phenomenal, and they'll replace kits with little to no question.  Hell, they didn't even make me send back the last 8GB I needed to replace a year ago, due to me blowing it up...
yea ive heard nothing but great things about them the only problem ive heard is the heat fins sit a little high for some people. hope it wont be a problem for me.

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 04:00 AM

View Posthyperstalker, on 08 August 2012 - 06:43 PM, said:

yea ive heard nothing but great things about them the only problem ive heard is the heat fins sit a little high for some people. hope it wont be a problem for me.

Get the Low Profile version if the heat fins bothering you. It may cost a lil bit more but it get the job done.

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 03:49 PM

Could someone please help me try find some compatable ram? I've tried googling what to look for, even ran a memory scanner which is supposed to find suitable ram to upgrade, however it doesn't seem to find any!

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 06:23 PM

Get the best one, MSI 7850 Power Edition.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 10:54 AM

Thanks all, i've ordered a Gigabyte Windforce 7850 from scan.co.uk

Still having troubles when it comes to upgrading ram though :(

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 10:59 AM

Turns out my current ram is "4GB CORS CMD4GX3M2A1600C9 DOM" (just checked order history).

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 12:10 PM

Then your ram should be this.

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820145323

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 12:46 PM

View PostEnforcer, on 12 August 2012 - 12:10 PM, said:

Then your ram should be this.

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820145323

Thanks, I did manage to find the exact same type of RAM I currently have it seems to be discontinued!

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 01:27 PM

Yeah might need to replace your ram, unless there's is one that is compatible with yours. But, 4GB is still fine for gaming, unless you open tons of other stuff while playing GW2.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 03:33 AM

View PostSuperNova, on 04 August 2012 - 12:27 PM, said:

My personal preferred brand is HIS but they are quite hard to find.  I'd go with the Gigabyte one simply because you know it's going to reach at least 975 MHz, which puts it very close to a 7870 in performance.

Yeah I've been looking at the HIS IceQ's... love the fact that it is actually a blower design so my quiet, negative pressure designed case can use it properly.

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 12:28 PM

Thanks everyone for the input!

I've ordered a Gigabyte HD 7850 and an additional 4gb of Corsair RAM.

Reading through other threads on here, people are saying the HD 7000 series will often be bottlenecked by the CPU. Will this be the case with me? (Amd Phenom II)

Thanks
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Posted 14 August 2012 - 12:38 PM

View Postashleigh mcmahon, on 14 August 2012 - 12:28 PM, said:

Reading through other threads on here, people are saying the HD 7000 series will often be bottlenecked by the CPU. Will this be the case with me? (Amd Phenom II)


People are wrong :) single card setups have no such problem in general. And certainly not with the 78XX series

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 12:41 PM

Aren't the differences pretty much only cooling, price and OC capabilities? I dont think theres a notable difference in performance.




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