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What's the point of grinding for HOM points if everyone will have access to it.


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#1 grayskull8

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:16 AM

Ok so im still grinding my bum off to get these final 4 points for my HOM as im sure many of you are. But im now having second toughs is this grind really worth the effort, what is the point of putting in all this hard work. When everyone and there dog will just buy GW1 after launch or years down the line can also add to their HOM point at any time.
Dose that not make the loot rewards common, worthless in its rarity which is why we grind for gear in gw1 in the first place?

So my question to you what's the point of grinding for HOM points if everyone will have access to it even if they start gw1 years. 2 years after gw2 comes out and have no interest in the world the story what so ever. Just there for the grinding of  HOM loots should it not have a cut off point so you skin are worth the grind and to show you are a true fan of the Guild wars franchise?

I'm sure i read somewhere that this was going to be the case and there would be a cut of point to grind HOM but they seem to have gone back on that it was probably the sound of emptying wallets $_$ change their minds.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:20 AM

Well it still takes some effort non the less. But it might mainly be focused for players who seek to complete the game 100%
And it gives some prestige between the new comers etc. The HoM is not rare, but suddenly not common.

Ps. I'm not getting it. :-)

#3 IdoPas

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:21 AM

Because if they grind the HoM points in 2 years they invested as much time and effort in it as we have. Probably more effort even since there wont be people helping arround with HoM.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:24 AM

If you don't want to grind, you don't have to.  You already got 46 which is 16 points more than you need for the HOM rewards.  I stopped at 47 and I have no regret.  Go do some RL stuffs now.  :D

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:25 AM

Sounds alot like entitement. The idea is that you're rewarded for playing the previous game, it has nothing to do with making yourself the one individual snowflake among millions of other players. The reward is not uniqueness, it's fun stuff in addition to already having alot of fun playing GW1.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:28 AM

Do you mean that when GW2 comes out it will be easier to get those hom points that only require money value and that it will be way easier to get them, resulting in a devalue of the hom items because we will never know if people were true GW fans and grinded them to say ''look at me I'm a Guild Wars Veteran'' but rather someone who years after will think ''it's just from hom, you can easily go back to Guild Wars 1 and just buy everything'' ..... something like that?

And do you feel that the ability to get hom stuff after GW2 releases should be sealed so that we will know who were Guild Wars fans and not?

Edited by Blixcoe, 08 August 2012 - 12:30 AM.


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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:34 AM

BTW i only have 26 points i see even less point grinding past 30


yes i understand you don't have to grind it its ur chose but i though the point of it was to show you are a fan of the Guild wars franchise no some who can buy up the game and grind at it for a week 2 years down line that make all the work for unique skins pointless the ward here is unique they want be this not even close, try more like common.

View PostBlixcoe, on 08 August 2012 - 12:28 AM, said:

Do you mean that when GW2 comes out it will be easier to get those hom points that only require money value and that it will be way easier to get them, resulting in a devalue of the hom items because we will never know if people were true GW fans and grinded them to say ''look at me I'm a Guild Wars Veteran'' but rather someone who years after will think ''it's just from hom, you can easily go back to Guild Wars 1 and just buy everything'' ..... something like that?

And do you feel that the ability to get hom stuff after GW2 releases should be sealed so that we will know who were Guild Wars fans and not?

this is pretty much one of the thing i dislike about this grind HOM after gw2 is out should be stopped so yes people who played gw1 for years and have not just jumped on the bang wagon can artless say i have all ways had faith in gw and here my skins to prove such.
other wise whats the point, fun? yep grinding HOM is so much fun =s

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:34 AM

Ye i know how you feel, For me the issue i had was HOM just giving titles after level 30. I wanted to see better gear for the higher end HOM rewards because its those levels that are actually hard to get. 1 to 30 is something anyone can achieve with a month or 2 grinding. I can see it getting harder post launch but that's about it. I say Reward us Long term fans with Items not just Titles post 30 points!

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:34 AM

View Postgrayskull8, on 08 August 2012 - 12:29 AM, said:

BTW i only have 26 points i see even less point grinding past 30


yes i understand you don't have to grind it its ur chose but i though the point of it was to show you are a fan of the Guild wars franchise no some who can buy up the game and grind at it for a week 2 years down line that make all the work for unique skins pointless the ward here is unique they want be this not even close, try more like common.

Because it will be near impossible to fill the HOM down the line.
Why would people take out months of playing GW2, to play GW1, with hardly anyone around, for some skin items?

Your worry is nothing, your looking for a problem that isn't there......

#10 IdoPas

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:34 AM

It seems to me that in two years time it will take a lot longer to earn a full HoM. I had a lot of help from guildies in filling my HoM. Vanqing together getting the occasional plats etc. In 2 years time there won't be a lot of people on gw1 anymore that will help people with that. Making the process a lot longer. Unless you only want some basic HoM gear. But then who cares it's more income for arenanet wich they can use to improve gw2

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:34 AM

I stopped at 6 pts in HoM. Wouldn't mind getting the 7th pt but just can't be bothered to put the effort into grinding it out... I could get it easily by getting my 20th pet since i have 19 but meh... just can't get into playing any other games after the bwe3.. and doubt i will go back to get any HoM after gw2 launches.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:35 AM

There is no point :P  I played GW1 for a few thousand hours.  The only HoM points I have are from pvp titles, and I think treasure hunter for when I was chest running the end of nightfall before everyone got there to get rich.
Fun while it lasted.  I guess.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:36 AM

i truly believe that you can't really get to 30/50 if you don't start loving the game already. I even made it to 35/50, 5 points more than I needed. Just because I loved the game and got 5 more points as an extra bonus. My first intent was to just get 30/50 points and be done with the game, but now I find myself loging into the game every day to do stuff just for the fun of it, and I got myself a guild about a year ago, which I'm joining in Guild Wars 2.

So, you see.. Guild Wars didn't only benefit me with 30/50 hom points.. it benefited me 5 more points, 500 hours of pure fun (except the hard times when dying at your last group of enemies to VQ, etc. You get the point) and a guild I have gained genuine feelings for considering the members of it, that I am joining in Guild Wars 2 too!

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:38 AM

The point of the HoM was to reward the faithful that played GW1 and supported Anet the past 7 years.

Grind points if you want. The stuff is not game breaking, probably soul bound, and not meaningful to anyone except the faithful who look at their Fellblades with fond memories of yester years.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:38 AM

i'm not worried i'm 50/50 and can show i played GW alot. New people will just go too 30 for rewards i know i would, they care less about getting the GWAMM title. So when i have my 50/50 title on i still feel a veteran :)

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:42 AM

View PostShezuTsukai, on 08 August 2012 - 12:38 AM, said:

The point of the HoM was to reward the faithful that played GW1 and supported Anet the past 7 years.

Grind points if you want. The stuff is not game breaking, probably soul bound, and not meaningful to anyone except the faithful who look at their Fellblades with fond memories of yester years.

yes the point is here you don't have to have played the game for 7 year to get these point you can get them in a week and yes I'm sure after gw2 come out their be a lot harder to get but still with some work you can get them what im saying is if you have not played gw1 before the launch of gw2 you should not have the chance to get HOM points but anet like money so they change that very quickly

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:45 AM

Lol i dont expect anyone to reach 50/50 in a week. Nor GWAMM and that is the full rewards you can get from gw1.

And if they do well then they earned it as much as anyone else with the titles and items

Edited by IdoPas, 08 August 2012 - 12:46 AM.


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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:46 AM

GW1 is so inexpensive right now it can't be about very much money.

I think this is a lot to do about nothing. I just hope a few players learn some lore and maybe get some enjoyment out of a game many of us have played for years.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:46 AM

I understand the whole " i should get to be a special unique snowflake" complex being discussed here, i suffered from it with my Hand of A'dal title in WoW. I came to the conclusion in the end though that what was really meaningful are my memories, my time, my stories, and not the exclusive title. If they had made it so everyone could get the title i would have been fine with it because the people who got it later than i don't have what i have from those times, they don't have what really matters-all they took away from it was a cool title that makes them happy and i'm all for that.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:46 AM

first, ArenaNet never said there would be a cut-off time for HoM rewards...they have always encouraged others to play GW1 for the rewards, since announcing it, and they always said that the ability to gain these rewards would continue after GW2 launched

second, few people can obtain 30/50 or 50/50 in a couple of weeks...if that were true, I am sure you would have done so, long ago

lol..I have over 7000 hours invested in GW1, and I still don't have 50/50; nor do I think I need special rewards other than the enjoyment I derived from all those hours of play...the HoM rewards are just a bonus  :)

if someone wants to spend their time playing GW1, after GW2 has launched, more power to them...it only helps ArenaNet, and thus, us as players of GW2

if you are unsatisfied with the prestige of the HoM rewards, then perhaps you could focus on the prestige items that will be available in GW2...it's a fun game to play (just as GW was and is, and there is no reason to want to keep anyone from playing that great game)

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:54 AM

They can probably get better rewards playing in GW2, given that same amount time that they use to grind HoM rewards in GW1, after GW2 launches.

Edited by Daesu, 08 August 2012 - 12:54 AM.


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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:54 AM

The rewards are for people who have accomplished certain criteria in GW1. Whether it be before or after
GW2 launches is irrelevant. It'll be even harder to get HoM points after release because less people will be
playing GW1. Less people selling pets, selling zaishen keys, running dungeons etc. If they manage to get
the rewards then fair play, they've put even MORE effort than us.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:54 AM

The point of the HoM is to give you stuff that you like and want to have if you so choose. It isn't to be super exclusive or increase your epeen. If someone likes GW2 and decides to buy and play the original in order to support ArenaNet, then they should be able to do so and get the rewards without being punished because they never played the original at the "correct" time.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 12:59 AM

The reason it is possible to get HoM rewards after gw2 release? I'm guessing they still want any sales they can get even though it will be more difficult to obtain the titles.

Edited by KodakMoment, 08 August 2012 - 01:00 AM.


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Posted 08 August 2012 - 01:00 AM

Q: Will I be able to sell or trade my rewards in Guild Wars 2?
A: No, you won't be able to trade any of the Hall of Monuments items or rewards to other accounts. You can, however, generate as many of the items as you want for your own account, so all of your Guild Wars 2 characters can benefit from the rewards.

http://hom.guildwars2.com/en/faq/

#26 Zebes

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 01:01 AM

1. Not everyone will buy GW for it.
2. It takes time and effort to do it.
3. And you'll be blinged out at launch.

So you will still be somewhat cool.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 01:02 AM

View PostxXx87, on 08 August 2012 - 01:00 AM, said:

Q: Will I be able to sell or trade my rewards in Guild Wars 2?
A: No, you won't be able to trade any of the Hall of Monuments items or rewards to other accounts. You can, however, generate as many of the items as you want for your own account, so all of your Guild Wars 2 characters can benefit from the rewards.

http://hom.guildwars2.com/en/faq/

I'm confused what does this have to do with the OP?

#28 Converse

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 01:04 AM

I was under the impression you had to purchase before gw2 comes out to get hom rewards after it releases.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 01:06 AM

People are already struggling to get their 30/50 (let alone 50/50) in a way most of us didn't have to (death-leveling LDoA, non-spammable drunk & one-shot Survivor aside) because the player base we had to draw on just isn't there any more.  I had a much easier time acquiring my minis & hero armors than the current HoM seekers do - the market was glutted with those things a year ago.  Not so much, now.  And it's only going to get worse once GW2 is released.

When or how someone else gets their 50/50 and GWAMM doesn't impact or affect the work I did to earn mine, and it doesn't impact the value I place on my achievements.  Funny thing is, a big reason my 50/50 and GWAMM matter to me is because working towards them became an EXCELLENT bonding experience between me and one of my guildies who I now count amongst my best friends and really like part of my family.  And she and I are carrying that wonderful friendship over into GW2... we've spent every BWE playing together (along with my husband and best friend) and just hop on TS or text or email to chat.

It doesn't matter if ANet does something next week that instantly gives every GW1 account 50/50 & GWAMM... the value of mine remains the same, because I got something so much better than a few cosmetic skins and some minis out of the deal.  I got a friend.

I can only hope future HoM seekers are so lucky!

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 01:06 AM

View PostConverse, on 08 August 2012 - 01:04 AM, said:

I was under the impression you had to purchase before gw2 comes out to get hom rewards after it releases.

So was i but it turn out Anet change there mind ca-ching!!!! money $_$




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