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#1 Akatriel

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 10:52 PM

What happens when a mesmer is in stealth (say through the prestige) and dodges while the trait that creates clones on dodge is active?

Does the clone have stealth?

If it does, does that clone break stealth on its attack?

Does creating a clone break the mesmer's stealth?

Are clone-creating skills like mirror images usable in stealth without breaking stealth?

I can try some of these tomorrow during the stress test, but I thought I'd ask in case anyone knows some of the answers.

#2 Howl

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 10:59 PM

I can't confirm it but I'm pretty sure that the clone does not have stealth, and creating a clone doesn't break your stealth, only damage skills breaks it.

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 11:23 PM

I believe this is the case as well.

#4 Maxtofunator

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 11:23 PM

If you create a clone, since most skills that create clones are attacks, it MIGHT break your stun. I can tell you for sure tomorrow after I test it out, though it will not be part of my main build, I too would like to know. It'd be nice to escape a bit easier if a clone can come out and they think it is you falling out of stealth

#5 Akatriel

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Posted 08 August 2012 - 11:27 PM

Exactly what I was thinking.  That, and a well timed clone while stealthing cold create additional confusion/survivability.

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 03:16 AM

If the clone generator is an attack, it will break your stealth, otherwise I'm pretty sure it will not break stealth.

If you generate a clone while stealthed, the clone will not be stealthed. I've found this to be a nice way of confusing someone as when people see a Mesmer stealth, the first person to "pop out of thin air" is the "obvious real Mesmer" ... but if suddenly 2-3 of you "pop out of nowhere" it's much more confusing ... requires a bit of timing and not immediately running around/jumping when you come out of stealth.

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 05:18 AM

Seb is correct.  They just 'appear'.  Decoy followed my Mirror Images is an excellent escape tool, you can even blink away while Stealthed to add to the confusion.  Also, Phantasms aren't considered an attack, so they too can be summoned while Stealthed.

However, The Prestige is a poor example.  As of BWE3 it is a channeled skill, so all you can do is move during it.  Doing anything else immediately breaks stealth and you lose the flame burst trigger.

#8 Elgareth

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 08:47 AM

View PostDastion, on 09 August 2012 - 05:18 AM, said:

Seb is correct.  They just 'appear'.  Decoy followed my Mirror Images is an excellent escape tool, you can even blink away while Stealthed to add to the confusion.  Also, Phantasms aren't considered an attack, so they too can be summoned while Stealthed.

However, The Prestige is a poor example.  As of BWE3 it is a channeled skill, so all you can do is move during it.  Doing anything else immediately breaks stealth and you lose the flame burst trigger.

Do shatters count as attacks, so they'll break your stealth? I'd assume so, but since you as Character don't really attack, just your Illusions...

#9 Akatriel

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 11:00 AM

View PostDastion, on 09 August 2012 - 05:18 AM, said:

Seb is correct.  They just 'appear'.  Decoy followed my Mirror Images is an excellent escape tool, you can even blink away while Stealthed to add to the confusion.  Also, Phantasms aren't considered an attack, so they too can be summoned while Stealthed.

However, The Prestige is a poor example.  As of BWE3 it is a channeled skill, so all you can do is move during it.  Doing anything else immediately breaks stealth and you lose the flame burst trigger.

This is too bad with prestige, but prestige still can add to misdirection.  You just have to mirror image before you prestige.  I forget if prestige has a different animation than decoy, but if it doesn't, you can keep them guessing: did he decoy and blink away, or did he prestige and is he going to pop with burning soon?

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 02:04 PM

View PostDastion, on 09 August 2012 - 05:18 AM, said:

Seb is correct.  They just 'appear'.  Decoy followed my Mirror Images is an excellent escape tool, you can even blink away while Stealthed to add to the confusion.  Also, Phantasms aren't considered an attack, so they too can be summoned while Stealthed.

However, The Prestige is a poor example.  As of BWE3 it is a channeled skill, so all you can do is move during it.  Doing anything else immediately breaks stealth and you lose the flame burst trigger.

You lose the flame trigger? Damn....I didn't notice that & yeah, prestige is a terrible example :/ I tried using illusion skills, but I left stealth. Honestly, the skill still seemed bugged to me..

#11 Sebrent_Tehroth

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 08:05 PM

View PostElgareth, on 09 August 2012 - 08:47 AM, said:

Do shatters count as attacks, so they'll break your stealth? I'd assume so, but since you as Character don't really attack, just your Illusions...
I don't think shattering removed stealth, but my memory on that is not as clear ... maybe test today ... though I didn't feel like testing in the last stress test either ... just wanted to play to "scratch that itch", lol.

#12 xphenox123

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Posted 09 August 2012 - 11:33 PM

not breaking stealth and the clone is not on stealth mode

#13 Akatriel

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 12:39 AM

thanks for the test, xphenox123. I couldn't make the stress test today, so your time testing is super appreciated!





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