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Horses! An off hand weapon, NOT a mount!

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#1 Ripperjack

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 08:35 PM

Due to the spectacular failure of my first attempt on this topic, I decided a different point of view was required to better explain what I was trying to achieve.

Don't think of it as a mount, think of it as an off hand weapon that looks like a guy on a horse.

I also removed the toughness, since that was an unpopular idea, and nerfed the speed, as again having a fast speed was unpopular as well.

1. Movement speed increased by 10%, while in use.

2. Players have their hot bars altered when using the horse off-hand weapon.

Slot 1, 2, 3 = The slots of their current main hand, 1-h weapon. No 2-h or off handed weapons allowed.
Slot 4 = Front attack. Equal to a warrior mace attack (Damage: 269).
Slot 5 = Rear attack. Equal to a warrior hammer attack (Damage: 370), to targets at rear of mount.

3. When downed, the horse off-hand weapon is un-summoned, and player goes into normal downed state. When revived, the horse off-hand weapon is re-summoned, with the player back in the saddle.

4. As the horse off-hand weapon is a weapon, it can be purchased for 1 Gold, and there is one type of each race.

Unlike the Asuran battlesuit, the horse off-hand weapon can only be used by the owner.

Remember, its an off hand weapon, NOT a mount!

#2 Verdian_Hawkeye

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 08:40 PM

Sorry, but a mount is a mount. This is a bit ridiculous.
Edit: besides, are horses gonna drop as loot, because I know other off hands do.
Edit: oh. Wait. They can't, because horses are mounts

Edited by Verdian_Hawkeye, 13 August 2012 - 08:42 PM.


#3 Reticuli

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 08:41 PM

Just. Stop. Now.

#4 Tenicord

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 08:44 PM

I don't think it's a terrible idea.. I also think it would feel out of place and would never happen...

#5 Falcky

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 08:44 PM

Sir... Are you high?

#6 PyrexFierceshot

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 08:46 PM

No. It wouldnt work in this game and is very unnecessary.

#7 Azure Skye

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 08:47 PM

How many times are we going to beat this damn dead horse?

#8 Ripperjack

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 09:53 PM

View PostAzure Skye, on 13 August 2012 - 08:47 PM, said:

How many times are we going to beat this damn dead horse?

As many times it's respawn rate allows!

View PostVerdian_Hawkeye, on 13 August 2012 - 08:40 PM, said:

Sorry, but a mount is a mount.

No it's not a mount, it's an off hand weapon, that happens to look like a guy on a horse.

View PostVerdian_Hawkeye, on 13 August 2012 - 08:40 PM, said:

Edit: besides, are horses gonna drop as loot, because I know other off hands do.

Not in this case.

View PostVerdian_Hawkeye, on 13 August 2012 - 08:40 PM, said:

Edit: oh. Wait. They can't, because horses are mounts.

Oh wait... I said they arn't mounts, the are off hand weapons. L2Read!

#9 Reticuli

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 09:55 PM

So this guy got trolled hard in his last thread and now hes trying to do the same to others? Grow up.

#10 Blackmetal

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 09:56 PM

Lol. In on epic thread.

#11 Shitehawk

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 10:00 PM

I want to craft a horse! Imagine the mats you would need..........

1 Turkey Baster
1 Incubation Unit (or a willing subject that loves My Little Pony)
1 Large jar....

#12 Verdian_Hawkeye

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 10:03 PM

Ok, soo basically an "off hand" tool that looks like a mount, changes parts of your skill bar like mounts, and has a permanent speed buff like a mount isn't a mount?

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 10:03 PM

How will it fit on my hip when I sheathe it?

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 10:05 PM

I want to know what you were using when you got this idea.

But I have an even better idea, Flying Warhorns!

You see they look like offhand weapons, but in fact they are mounts.
When you ride them your offhand skills change into new mount specific skills. It's almost like an offhand but it's not! It's a mount! It will be animated with fire coming out of the opening so it has thrust like a rocket.

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It is not ridiculous at all, just like your idea. :surprised:

Edited by JWZ, 13 August 2012 - 10:18 PM.


#15 el hefe

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 10:09 PM

Hey, you guys....how is this not a mount?

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 10:12 PM

Soooo an off hand weapon (something that can be wielded in presumably your left hand) is a horse... how many asuras/humans/cats/plant people or vikings do you know that can wield a horse with one hand while wielding another weapon at the same time? (ok maybe the vikings could :P)

oh and where do you hold the horse exactly? ;)

Edited by Sheepski, 13 August 2012 - 10:16 PM.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 10:14 PM

See this giant purple dragon named The Shatterer? This is not The Shatterer, this is my off hand weapon.

It changes my skill bar by stepping on my face and downing me.

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We can play semantics all day.

Edited by Alaroxr, 13 August 2012 - 10:17 PM.


#18 Axelshock

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 10:15 PM

While I do enjoy the passion and inovation of your idea, I have to ask,"Is this needed?" The short answer is no. We already have utility skills that grant passive speed boost (i.e the elementalist has the Glyph of Air, I believe it is called). I also fear the resouces to make these "items" would be better suited for other problems. A+ for effort, B+ for inovation, D- for practicality.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 10:15 PM

View PostRipperjack, on 13 August 2012 - 09:53 PM, said:

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We all ready have a power suit for the asura racial skill. its a mount in a way.  http://wiki.guildwar...mmon_Power_Suit  





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View PostAlemoot, on 13 August 2012 - 10:03 PM, said:

How will it fit on my hip when I sheathe it?
like this ?

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*edit* i've added a video too. =P

Edited by Azure Skye, 13 August 2012 - 10:32 PM.


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Posted 13 August 2012 - 10:18 PM

View PostAzure Skye, on 13 August 2012 - 10:15 PM, said:

like this ?

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Deal.

#21 hoodlumpriest

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 10:18 PM

in the words of edmund blackadder

'wibble'

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 10:22 PM

Horse off hand weapon......... ???????????

This has to be a joke, you trollin' right ?

#23 samd227

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 10:24 PM

I don't... i.. uh... ..HUH? x.x

#24 MyTabbycat

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 10:28 PM

When I think of horses as a weapon, I think of my horse in Skyrim. That stupid horse always gallops off to fight bears and then I have to run after it. If they do make mounts, I really hope they don't model them after the Skyrim horse AI.

#25 Lyall

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 10:34 PM

I've heard of beating a dead horse, but this is beating someone WITH a dead horse.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 10:53 PM

View PostRipperjack, on 13 August 2012 - 08:35 PM, said:

Due to the spectacular failure of my first attempt on this topic, I decided a different point of view was required to better explain what I was trying to achieve.

Don't think of it as a mount, think of it as an off hand weapon that looks like a guy on a horse.

I also removed the toughness, since that was an unpopular idea, and nerfed the speed, as again having a fast speed was unpopular as well.

1. Movement speed increased by 10%, while in use.

2. Players have their hot bars altered when using the horse off-hand weapon.

Slot 1, 2, 3 = The slots of their current main hand, 1-h weapon. No 2-h or off handed weapons allowed.
Slot 4 = Front attack. Equal to a warrior mace attack (Damage: 269).
Slot 5 = Rear attack. Equal to a warrior hammer attack (Damage: 370), to targets at rear of mount.

3. When downed, the horse off-hand weapon is un-summoned, and player goes into normal downed state. When revived, the horse off-hand weapon is re-summoned, with the player back in the saddle.

4. As the horse off-hand weapon is a weapon, it can be purchased for 1 Gold, and there is one type of each race.

Unlike the Asuran battlesuit, the horse off-hand weapon can only be used by the owner.

Remember, its an off hand weapon, NOT a mount!

Let's see....a weapon that gives a run speed bonus just by equipping it? Smells like a mount.

A weapon that summons a horse or other thing you ride upon? Looks like a mount.

How is this not a mount again?

Now I saw this applied in Mortal Online. You clicked on a figurine and it would summon a mount. It worked there since the gameworld sucked and there was too much space and no teleports. Wouldn't work as well here.

If it did work though, Why not go gangbusters with all the types of mounts. Summon a hovercraft for the Asura. Or summon a great Mammoth for the Norn. Summon a mechanised horse with tank tracks instead of legs for the Charr. Summon a Spider for Silvari. Summon a Marmox for the Humans.

Each of these give no run speed but do look cool and change your entire left bar to specialized skills that unlock giving you the first 2 to start and the other 3 with practice. These skills could be where things get interesting since they would have to do with the style of each mount.

The Hovercraft skills would be
skill 1::: 10% speed increase for 10 seconds with 25 second refresh.
skill 2::: frost cone from rear adds chilled effect for 5 seconds with 15 second refresh.
skill 3::: Blowtorch from front causing more damage the close enemy is for 5 seconds with refresh of 15

these are obviously examples that would actually work within the world and not really break anything. They would just use already existing mechanics and be added fun.

Edited by Kable, 13 August 2012 - 11:06 PM.


#27 Yui San

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 12:08 AM

I once drove right into a mall with my truck and when the police stopped me I said: "Hey, it's not a car it's a handbag." This could be the real world version of your "great" idea. ;-)

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 10:04 AM

I think I have mentioned this before in the other topic but no one took notice. Not that I care anyway :)
The reason I don't like the idea of mounts (or offhands that looks like mounts wtf) is that the mere idea of charr riding on anything seems almost gamebreaking for me, I mean it would seem so weird and wrong with the charr.
I can't exactly see norn using something like that either, they big tall and badass, no need for it.
The only races that would actually look good on a mount is sylvari and human. And you can't really add something that big to only 2 races.

Had it been like in GW1 and humans were the only playable race, I would have been all for mounts. But as it stands mounts just does not fit. I certainly don't hope Anet listenes to all these people that want mounts, cause Im gonna cry the day I see a charr on a mount.

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 10:06 AM

View Postel hefe, on 13 August 2012 - 10:09 PM, said:

Hey, you guys....how is this not a mount?
Because he said it wasn't! Duhhh!!  ;)

(It's a mount.)

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 03:56 PM

how about a special armor set that doesnt effect anything else in the game, it just looks like you are wearing a horse costume?




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