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[Kikinho]

So Anet just posted this one their Facebook page:

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With the release of Guild Wars 2 just around the corner, the community team is heading off to Cologne for gamescom.

If you are attending gamescom from the 15th to 19th of August, why not drop by our booth in Hall 8, enjoy a drink, have a c
hat with the team and fellow fans alike.

To celebrate this we’ll be giving away a special in-game item to those that can tell us the daily password, all you need to do is watch our twitter feed every morning between 8am and 10am during the show. We will announce a (not so) secret password during this time and if you find Aidan, Martin, David, Stephane, Melanie or Ramon and whisper us this password.

We will be giving out a new password every day (beginning Wednesday 15th) don't be late, stock will be limited for each day.

We hope to see you on the show floor! ~RB2

And i got realy suprised of the comments under it. The majority started to complain about how it is unfair because not everyone will get these "special in-game" items. That some people won't be able to appear at gamescom even if they want to.

It seems that nowdays it is just became normal that everyone complains over anything and everything.
Personaly my first thought was that how lucky those people will be who get these items. I doubt anything like "how unfair it is" would have come to my mind at all if i don't read the comments.

These items are "special" because not everyone will be able to obtain it. (Note: this is only a speculation as we don't know what are these items actualy) There is even a chance that we will be able to buy it later with gems/money or simply obtain it in late-game content.

In my opinion this is quite disrespectful towards Anet. With these little gestures they are showing us how they care and love their community.

I was just wondering what is your thoughts about this. Is this the mentality which will be most common in the future and in the game? Or do you think these people are only a minority who just simply give voice to their opinion?

Seeing these kind of comments make me realy sad to be honest, not even mentioning the comments under the "I've just met you, and this is crazy" post Anet posted a few weeks earlier on their FB page.

[Eldaran]

I agree with you. People suck.

[Fiero]

This is pretty common on unmoderated and highly public message boards. It's really nothing that should be taken as an accurate demonstration of public opinion. People are no more stupid than in the past, they can just be more stupid more publicly.

[Kikinho]

Fiero, on 14 August 2012 - 08:58 PM, said:

This is pretty common on unmoderated and highly public message boards. It's really nothing that should be taken as an accurate demonstration of public opinion. People are no more stupid than in the past, they can just be more stupid more publicly.

I hope you are right, it just seems that i see more of these people since i started to read game forums and FB comments.

[Fiero]

Kikinho, on 14 August 2012 - 09:00 PM, said:

I hope you are right, it just seems that i see more of these people since i started to read game forums and FB comments.

Game forums and facebook comments are, more often than not, primarily a place where only the disgruntled are vocal. Don't worry.

[not_they]

welcome to modern internet...

I just hope that in foreseeable future this whining culture will wind down enough at least to point where everything is not filled with petty whining  and disillusioned entitlements

Edited by not_they, 14 August 2012 - 09:02 PM.

[Daesu]

Kikinho, on 14 August 2012 - 08:57 PM, said:

So Anet just posted this one their Facebook page:



And i got realy suprised of the comments under it. The majority started to complain about how it is unfair because not everyone will get these "special in-game" items. That some people won't be able to appear at gamescom even if they want to.

It seems that nowdays it is just became normal that everyone complains over anything and everything.
Personaly my first thought was that how lucky those people will be who get these items. I doubt anything like "how unfair it is" would have come to my mind at all if i don't read the comments.

These items are "special" because not everyone will be able to obtain it. (Note: this is only a speculation as we don't know what are these items actualy) There is even a chance that we will be able to buy it later with gems/money or simply obtain it in late-game content.

In my opinion this is quite disrespectful towards Anet. With these little gestures they are showing us how they care and love their community.

I was just wondering what is your thoughts about this. Is this the mentality which will be most common in the future and in the game? Or do you think these people are only a minority who just simply give voice to their opinion?

Seeing these kind of comments make me realy sad to be honest, not even mentioning the comments under the "I've just met you, and this is crazy" post Anet posted a few weeks earlier on their FB page.

I doubt those special items are going to grant you a competitive edge in PvP so they are probably PvE items.  But you see why I kept arguing with people here that PvE is also competitive.  They kept saying, no they don't mind that others have more gold or have an advantage in PvE, so you shouldn't mind either.  Hardcore PvE gamers just don't think that way.

Edited by Daesu, 14 August 2012 - 09:06 PM.

[Trolozaur]

This is the vocal minority sadly. Try not to get disappointed. As I've realized, the people who were in the beta are very nice people.

[Symbiont]

well sometimes they are raised like spoiled brats and learned that whining will get them anything they want

[Frakov]

I would rather everyone have the right to complain about what they want, even if a lot of idiots complain about stupid things, than have everyone's complaints censored, filtered, or shut down entirely. Viva free speech!

[Icuic]

not_they, on 14 August 2012 - 09:01 PM, said:

welcome to modern internet...

I just hope that in foreseeable future this whining culture will wind down enough at least to point where everything is not filled with petty whining  and disillusioned entitlements

This.

This type of thing has happened since the dawn of TCP/IP and will probably continue to happen. Most of the time the whiners almost instantly forget and it's never an issue so no real harm.

[Krazzar]

OMG I won't get a super-special item that I wouldn't use for more than five minutes anyway!?!?!? Blasphemers! But seriously, inconsequential pixels. This is just a simple stunt to get more people to come to their booth because it will be a rather pathetic showing compared to the last couple years at GamesCom, I wouldn't be surprised if most of those that try won't even be able to get to any of the Anet staff. .

[Kikinho]

Eldaran, on 14 August 2012 - 08:58 PM, said:

I agree with you. People suck.

I wouldn't say that people suck lo. At least i hope i didn't sound like that in my post.
Also i noticed that you are the first commenter in almost every topic i checked recently lol.

[Majic]

It's a consequence of parents using the Internet as an electronic babysitter.

Kids were better off with TV, and considering how wretched TV is, I don't say that lightly.

[Tattlefox]

Symbiont, on 14 August 2012 - 09:04 PM, said:

well sometimes they are raised like spoiled brats and learned that whining will get them anything they want

This is so true, especially with RIOT. The league of legends community always cries and Riot delivers (not that its a bad part by Riot, I love how they listen) but people do indeed suck.

[Quilliam]

Im sorry but I am not going to change my mind.  I've never liked anything in the world that excludes people.  As long as people have a chance I'm fine (it could be so small that it is very unlikely but a chance none the less).  Granted you could argue that I could find a way to go last moment with this new knowledge...  

[Kikinho]

Frakov, on 14 August 2012 - 09:05 PM, said:

I would rather everyone have the right to complain about what they want, even if a lot of idiots complain about stupid things, than have everyone's complaints censored, filtered, or shut down entirely. Viva free speech!

I am not saying people don't have the right to complain. We live in a capitalist, this is what they teach us in every corner we look.
I am only suprised that people can complain about everything! Such tiny things that probably don't even deserve the time they waste on typing the comments.

[thedeapee]

I remember my first beta event.../map was helpful, everyone helped everyone.  People got a drop and asked if anyone needed it.  To my surprise, when i needed a pistol, someone mailed me one.  i paid it forward, ten-fold.  Im afraid those days may be over on lwaunch, but i sure hope not.

[Daesu]

thedeapee, on 14 August 2012 - 09:10 PM, said:

I remember my first beta event.../map was helpful, everyone helped everyone.  People got a drop and asked if anyone needed it.  To my surprise, when i needed a pistol, someone mailed me one.  i paid it forward, ten-fold.  Im afraid those days may be over on lwaunch, but i sure hope not.

Beta is over, get over it.  Those items in beta would be deleted before launch anyway.

[Katreyn]

I'm not surprised.  Especially in an MMO ppl want everything they can have.  Why do you Blizzard started giving out the virtual items from Blizzcon to anyone willing to buy it?  Because people will buy it.  I imagine if ArenaNet offered the chance for people to buy it for a fraction of the ticket price a lot of people would be going for it.  :/

[Rukioish]

welcome to the generation of entitled children with horrible parents.

[Kikinho]

Quilliam, on 14 August 2012 - 09:09 PM, said:

Im sorry but I am not going to change my mind.  I've never liked anything in the world that excludes people.  As long as people have a chance I'm fine (it could be so small that it is very unlikely but a chance none the less).  Granted you could argue that I could find a way to go last moment with this new knowledge...  

For me this situation feels like if i was starting to complaining how unfair it is that i can't win the australian lottery, because not only i don't have the chance to travel there, but even if i get there, there is only a tiny chance i will get the numbers right too.

[907gamer]

Welcome to the internet. Population douche bag.

[GODh]

I havent read those comments and i dont plan to read them now, but i somewhat agree that anet shouldnt do these kind of things (unless its soulbound stuff). In GW1 they did these kind of things too and those items (very rare minipets) were probably the most valuable items in the game because they were very rare. If these items end up being worth 1 million gold coins (or whatever) on the market then i think anet created an unfair advantage to those players who are able to go there vs the ones who cant go there.

[Shamadamun]

It's the same thing with every online game. Disgruntled people yell, bitch, moan, and complain all day while those who are happy enjoy the game don't speak up very often.

For every one idiot spamming the boards with complaints, there's 20 people enjoying the game. Try to let it go, and realize these few people aren't a fair representation of who you'll be playing with.

Edited by Shamadamun, 14 August 2012 - 09:16 PM.

[Shadow Heart]

The entitlement mentality of the current generation is very... disturbing.

[Faowri]

What makes me laugh is that they don't even know what the item is yet ("special in-game item" being pretty darn vague), whether it will be unique, and/or whether it will be available by other means. Which makes every entitled post like that the equivalent of "I don't know what it is, but I want it, and I'm angry I can't get it!". They want it simply because it's there.

[Daesu]

GODh, on 14 August 2012 - 09:14 PM, said:

I havent read those comments and i dont plan to read them now, but i somewhat agree that anet shouldnt do these kind of things (unless its soulbound stuff). In GW1 they did these kind of things too and those items (very rare minipets) were probably the most valuable items in the game because they were very rare. If these items end up being worth 1 million gold coins (or whatever) on the market then i think anet created an unfair advantage to those players who are able to go there vs the ones who cant go there.

I was going to say that but like I said in my post above.  People here really don't care if other people get free gold from ANet, it is PvE afterall.  And PvE is not competitive according to them.

Edited by Daesu, 14 August 2012 - 09:17 PM.

[Beraphim]

Hmm, I can see this upsetting the completionist type of person. Some people argue that since cosmeticc progression is all that matters (I suppose they mean in PvE), that offering uniques for attending to events like these is unfair. Some others just don't like special items given to those who participate on very specific events, for whatever reason. Some other say that this kind of giveaways excludes part of your fanbase and divides them, and I also saw some being upset beause they are giving special items to "anyone" isntead of their "most loyal fans who have been following them for 6-7 years".

Now, I personally do not care for them doing this sort of stuff, but I think people are jumping the gun on this one. The item in question might be obtainable through in-game means, or perhaps they will give away this special item in other eventss like tournaments, other cons, raffles etc. Or perhaps they will have different special items to give away on different events - even ones held in-game for holidays.

I don't think they should worry about this, in my opinion.

[Sheepski]

Krazzar, on 14 August 2012 - 09:07 PM, said:

OMG I won't get a super-special item that I wouldn't use for more than five minutes anyway!?!?!? Blasphemers! But seriously, inconsequential pixels. This is just a simple stunt to get more people to come to their booth because it will be a rather pathetic showing compared to the last couple years at GamesCom, I wouldn't be surprised if most of those that try won't even be able to get to any of the Anet staff. .

It'd be funny if "if you find" referred to them hiding from everyone, in a secret exit somewhere and placed crumb type clues for people to find them