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#1 Nabuko Darayon

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 03:14 PM

I may have read it somewhere because it's a very familiar stuff but I guess another topic is ok, after all this is a forum. ;)

#2 IDarko

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 03:29 PM

A continent called Orr that fell on Zhaitan?

Nah i don't know. Prolly something that we don't know yet. A ritual or something

#3 Arghore

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 03:42 PM

If we knew that we could put them back to sleep again right? so if we ever find out, its gonna be a major part of the game, thus very unlikely this will be revealed b4 some-one puts it in the wiki after finishing the game ... come back around the end of 2011, start 2012 ...

#4 The Gustof

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 03:55 PM

I'm putting money on the Gods, then again Gw lore is a confusing business!

#5 Nabuko Darayon

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 03:58 PM

Yeah I was thinking the same thing (Gods), but they won't be findable in GW2 as I may recall.
I hope the whole history of the dragons will be reviled before the game. Maybe this time we won't have the same objects to put them back to sleep.

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 05:03 PM

We don't know that the dragons were put to sleep. It might just have been bed time for them and they went to sleep as part of their natural cycle.

We don't know why they are waking up now, either. Possibly it's a natural awakening. But, the regular interval between each dragon seems to hint that something else is at work.

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 05:30 PM

Everything about the Elder Dragons past is unknown to us. In general the Movement of the World and various things mentioned by Jeff Grubb imply them coming out of some sort of hibernation cycle.

However this is probably something to keep us occupied, the real truths of the Elder Dragons being confined to the game itself. I even suspect we wont learn about their past in the initial release and it will play out alittle like GW1 and Abaddons plots.

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 06:21 PM

*shrug* We'll find out when the game comes out, I imagine. That's probably spoiler-tastic, and they won't spoil the big plot points, I think.

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 06:26 PM

Anet hasn't yet said who or what put the dragons to sleep. There are several things that may have put the dragons.
1. The gods.
2. Some mystical unknown force.
3. Maybe the dragons put them self to sleep.
For now we don't know yet but I think we will get the answer in GW2

#10 Darcy

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 06:41 PM

None of us know yet, but that is the focus of the Order of Whispers in GW2.

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The Order of Whispers originated in the nation of Elona, long before the rise of the goddess Kormir. Now the Order has found another purpose: to slow the rise of the Elder Dragons, and eventually, discover a way to put them back to sleep. The Order of Whispers does not believe the dragons can be physically destroyed; instead, the Order looks for methods to escape their full awakening and the inevitable aftermath. The Master of Whispers has spies, thieves, and black-ops agents within every nation on Tyria, infiltrating major governments at the highest levels. Diplomacy is meaningless against the dragons. Weapons are useless. Only returning the Elder Dragons to their long sleep can save the world.


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Posted 27 July 2010 - 06:51 PM

All we know is that the cycle of their awakening reaches back into the time of the Giganticus Lupicus or even further, and that they woke up hungry - meaning they ate something during their last wakefulness.

I saw that no one has considered the possibility that they entered the state of hibernation on their own.

However, if there was something or someone (or a group of those persons) that did put them to rest, we have no knowledge of what that thing or person (or group of persons) might be.

If we learn that in the first release, then we're going to find those answers in Orr (or in long forgotten Dwarven site/keep/settlement.

Jeff Grubb said:

It is possible that the cryptic message refers to the Dragons – “a land unwaking” could be the risen kingdom of Orr, and answers to the origin of the dragons do lie there.


#12 Konig Des Todes

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 08:47 PM

The Gustof said:

I'm putting money on the Gods, then again Gw lore is a confusing business!
The gods came after the Elder Dragons went to slumber.

The dwarves, mursaat, and seers are the only races known to date back to the time of the Tome of Rubicon's writing (that's the time in which the mursaat and seers had their war - most likely meaning the Elder Dragons were no threat at that time). Those three races may know what put them to sleep, if anything forced them to sleep that is - and if they didn't do it.

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 08:50 PM

Possibilities:
1) Chuck Norris.
2) The 5 blood stones. (4 Dragons, 5th might be Glint Decease Dragon).

Edited by Shabi, 27 July 2010 - 08:55 PM.


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Posted 27 July 2010 - 08:51 PM

I have a feeling that the Eye of the North has to do smth with the dragons...

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 08:57 PM

Mr.Freakmaster said:

I have a feeling that the Eye of the North has to do smth with the dragons...

You mean the outpost or the campaign?

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 08:59 PM

Shabi said:

You mean the outpost or the campaign?

The outpost.

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Posted 27 July 2010 - 09:14 PM

The forgotten's,

"The Forgotten are a group of ancient creatures that resemble snakes, but stand upright like humans and have their own culture."

Guild Wars [[Offical]] Wiki ®.

They might be their Ancient servant's and have woken them up. It seems that the forgotten serve Glint so I might guess there are other forgotten which serve other Dragon Lords.

But then I found this quote,  
"The Forgotten Ones were brought to Tyria by the Gods of Tyria around the year 1769 BE to assist the dragon prophet Glint."

So the Dragons have been here way long before 2600 years ago before our Characters. Now if you look at another race the seer, they never talk about Dragons. Yet they are "Ancient/dead race" but they never talk about them. So from here you can conclude that they were created after the Dragons dormancy.

Thirdly if you look at all the dragons locations, they are trapped. Mostly in Earth/Water/Fire. Each Dragon is also trapped in the location of his attributes. So overall I think that the Dragons went dormant. Now what make's me real wonder is how Glint managed to make Babies even thus no Dragons were around...

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 03:09 AM

I think the dwarves might have had some insight on the dragons, but as to what caused them, maybe they are like a volcano, it never gets put into a dormant state, it originally is in one, and then erupts later.

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 03:19 AM

I think the Dragons just went into hibernation, except unlike Bears the Dragons sleep much longer.

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 03:20 AM

Craywulf said:

I think the Dragons just went into hibernation, except unlike Bears the Dragons sleep much longer.

Bears don't really hibernate, you know.... :D Oddly enough, they just sleep.  Though they are often known for hibernation, they never actually hibernate.

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 03:28 AM

Amannelle said:

Bears don't really hibernate, you know.... :D Oddly enough, they just sleep.  Though they are often known for hibernation, they never actually hibernate.

Before people disagree :P  winter lethargy

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 03:34 AM

trollberry said:

Before people disagree :P  winter lethargy

hehe thanks ^^

#23 Craywulf

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 04:05 AM

Amannelle said:

Bears don't really hibernate, you know.... :D Oddly enough, they just sleep.  Though they are often known for hibernation, they never actually hibernate.
Oh, I didn't know that. Still The Dragons could've hibernated. It's fantasy fiction...go with it.

#24 The Gustof

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 04:33 AM

Weren't most them were in a sealed like place. Primordus was stuck in all that Lava and stuck as a statue. Zhiatan had a continent on top of him. Jormag was frozen. Kralkatorrik was pretty much buried with only part of it sticking out. It seems to me that they were defeated and were pretty much K.O for so long that the world began to evolve and engulf them as they slept. So far the only being with magical abilities able to combat something on the Elder Dragons scale are the Gods.

#25 Konig Des Todes

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 04:46 AM

Those places could easily just be "land formed around them" - in fact, in describing a concept art of Drakkar Lake, the artist said he was after making it feel like the dragon fell asleep there and the lake froze around it.

So no, they are not "sealed" and their locations don't mean that they were defeated.

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Posted 28 July 2010 - 09:10 AM

Shabi said:

Thirdly if you look at all the dragons locations, they are trapped. Mostly in Earth/Water/Fire. Each Dragon is also trapped in the location of his attributes. So overall I think that the Dragons went dormant. Now what make's me real wonder is how Glint managed to make Babies even thus no Dragons were around...

I can see some action happening between Zhaitan and Glint ;)... maybe that's why HE went to sleep and didn't wake up til now. Prolly was too exhausted

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 06:59 AM

Dragons hibernate for a long time..... maybe around 300 years or so. haha

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 08:32 AM

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#29 Konig Des Todes

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 11:21 AM

It would have to be a lot longer than 300 years considering GW2 is 250 years after GW1.

3,000 years at the least, but probably far more... like 10,000 years.

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 03:32 PM

Konig Des Todes said:

The gods came after the Elder Dragons went to slumber.

The dwarves, mursaat, and seers are the only races known to date back to the time of the Tome of Rubicon's writing (that's the time in which the mursaat and seers had their war - most likely meaning the Elder Dragons were no threat at that time). Those three races may know what put them to sleep, if anything forced them to sleep that is - and if they didn't do it.

Considering we know little of things before humans appeared on Tyria, there's still a pretty big timespan between forgotten appearing (1769 BE according to the wiki timeline) and humans appearing (786 BE in Cantha, 205 BE in Tyria/Elona). And forgotten have been mentioned many times as the original guardians appointed by the gods. Who's to say they weren't guarding from elder dragons reawakening? There's enough time in those 1000 years (1500 for the bigger continent) of god and forgotten presence before humans appeared for at least one slumber to be forced by them. Glints connection with both gods and possibly elder dragons as well hints at gods and forgotten at least knowing of the dragons if not being directly involved in some of the lullaby singing.

Edited by razor39999, 01 August 2010 - 03:34 PM.