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#1 jgyy

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 12:39 PM

As the topic indicates, it seems that based on GW2 wikia, the value of 10 Influence have dropped from 10 silver to 2 silver. This is quite a drastic drop and guilds would be able to spend their skill points at a higher rates.

In addition, it would attract players to destroy their gold into NPC and reduce inflation. This seems to be a nice improvement, what is your opinion on it?

#2 Imaginos

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 12:55 PM

It's a good change for the reasons you listed. It also helps small guilds whereas a larger guild didn't need the cost break.

#3 jgyy

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 01:47 PM

i personally would not want to convert at all. lets just say that it is purely for selfish reasons.

in terms of guild contribution, i would rather contribute more on guild expension and siege weapons as i do not see any form of ranking between each guild influence points.

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 01:54 PM

My personal one man guild will now be even more achievable \o/.

Three cheers to a personal guild bank!

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 02:18 PM

I actually think this is nice. Since a lot of the influence stuff is a one-use type thing, making the gold to influence conversion cheaper is good at motivating people to do it. And as you mentioned this will take money out of the economy and keep inflation down.

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 11:33 PM

View PostMaddeth, on 22 August 2012 - 01:54 PM, said:

My personal one man guild will now be even more achievable \o/.

Three cheers to a personal guild bank!

Can you simply create Guilds like that? Don't you need some people to be able to form a guild a la WoW?
Yes, I mentioned WoW but its an honest question.

Edited by Datenshi92, 22 August 2012 - 11:34 PM.


#7 TenderFoot

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 11:49 PM

View PostMaddeth, on 22 August 2012 - 01:54 PM, said:

My personal one man guild will now be even more achievable \o/.

Three cheers to a personal guild bank!

Yeah same here with me, good move Dev's :)

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 11:50 PM

View PostDatenshi92, on 22 August 2012 - 11:33 PM, said:

Can you simply create Guilds like that? Don't you need some people to be able to form a guild a la WoW?
Yes, I mentioned WoW but its an honest question.
no i made one as soon as i had a silver and there was no signing a charter or anything you dont even have to talk to any body just gotta have the 1S

#9 jgyy

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 12:16 AM

this will benefit more for the selfish people though as influence can also be earned thru PVP and world events. tome of influence gives the guild 1000 influence haha.

btw just to sidetrack, when i get my first silver at lvl 2, i would immediately buy gathering and salvage tools.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 12:55 AM

View PostTenderFoot, on 22 August 2012 - 11:49 PM, said:

Yeah same here with me, good move Dev's :)

Now that they probably know about this, I wonder what will they do xD
This is what happens to blabbermouths(not talking about you in particular).

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 01:02 AM

View PostDatenshi92, on 23 August 2012 - 12:55 AM, said:

Now that they probably know about this, I wonder what will they do xD
This is what happens to blabbermouths(not talking about you in particular).

No offense taking, yeah I do agree with you on that given Anet's history with GW1 blabbermouths about X, Anet's Nerf Bat soon hit after wards many many times.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 01:07 AM

View PostTenderFoot, on 23 August 2012 - 01:02 AM, said:

No offense taking, yeah I do agree with you on that given Anet's history with GW1 blabbermouths about X, Anet's Nerf Bat soon hit after wards many many times.

My concern is that they might end up with something even more expensive than before. I don't think they will alter significantly the prices after creating a guild but the entrance/creation price... *phew*. People will think twice before expending a good amount of their money so early on in the game.
That or they might tweak the guild to require a certain number of people before you can actually create one. Honestly, what's the point of a guild if there's only one person? They could invite more later(as its intended) but till then, its very exploitable.

Edited by Datenshi92, 23 August 2012 - 01:11 AM.


#13 rodarin

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 01:34 AM

its pretty moot because you can belong to multiple guilds you just can't be representing more than one guild at a time.

Changing guild affiliation is as simple as clicking your management screen and changing.

So guilds as they are are going to be pretty watered down in terms of comradeship or sticking together for a common goal.  I suspect some guilds will end up having multiple splinter guilds as well where everyone belongs to each others guild.

#14 Freysan

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 02:35 AM

A little short, but you actually bring up fantastic points.
This puts in a very solid money sink, which will decrease inflation -drastically-
So our money will matter.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 02:45 AM

I'll totally have my little personal guild bank. I'm sure every other item hoarder will also. This makes the max level guild stash more reasonable in price. I was going to stop at a level 1 guild bank.

#16 jgyy

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 03:31 AM

i did not intent to start this topic to duscuss about explots though...

so 1 lesson learnt is that solving inflation problem will cause storage exploits

oh and before any smartass really wana use this crap exploit, might as well make 4 more dummy storage characters and get 8 slots bag for them, isnt it potentionally cheaper...

Edited by jgyy, 23 August 2012 - 03:34 AM.


#17 Imaginos

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 04:55 AM

View PostDatenshi92, on 23 August 2012 - 12:55 AM, said:

Now that they probably know about this, I wonder what will they do xD
This is what happens to blabbermouths(not talking about you in particular).

They already did something about this in bwe3. Guild banks went from 2500 and requiring tier 2 to build down to 1500 and t1 to build. Guild expansion after the basic levels is dependent on guild size and number of people online at once. A small guild will not be able to do much beyond the basic upgrades you see immediately due to this. Those upgrades are decent though and some are very costly and will take quite a bit of time to achieve.

So there is no problem or exploit.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 07:14 AM

View PostDatenshi92, on 23 August 2012 - 12:55 AM, said:

Now that they probably know about this, I wonder what will they do xD
This is what happens to blabbermouths(not talking about you in particular).

Were you referring to me :'(

There was actually a thread about this a while ago already. :)

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 11:43 AM

View PostImaginos, on 23 August 2012 - 04:55 AM, said:

They already did something about this in bwe3. Guild banks went from 2500 and requiring tier 2 to build down to 1500 and t1 to build. Guild expansion after the basic levels is dependent on guild size and number of people online at once. A small guild will not be able to do much beyond the basic upgrades you see immediately due to this. Those upgrades are decent though and some are very costly and will take quite a bit of time to achieve.

So there is no problem or exploit.

Ah, wasn't aware of this :)
So I guess all is well then!

View PostMaddeth, on 23 August 2012 - 07:14 AM, said:

Were you referring to me :'(


Well..... I guess you could be considered one :P
/half-joke

I was talking in general.
Things like these are inevitable. If ins't you, it will be the next guy or the person afterwards.
Not that's its entirely a bad thing. Exploits are meant to be found and taken down.

Edited by Datenshi92, 23 August 2012 - 11:45 AM.


#20 Baron von Scrufflebutt

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 11:49 AM

Using the guild for chat only. ^^





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