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#1 Duskmelt

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 04:06 AM

I know it's not cool posting this right before this EPIC game launches, but I feel people should be aware that Jeremy Soule may not come back to do his magical work on another Guild Wars game.

Music is the leading cause of nostalgia in video games:


Recently Jeremy Soule posted that GW2 is his last Guild Wars game he works on:

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Looking at Jeremy Soule's Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/mrsoule), something might have happened last night: "The music is invited. But not me." via mobile and something about security not letting him in somewhere.

Guild Wars would not be Guild Wars without Jeremy Soule. We're talking "Star Wars without John Williams". If something happened I feel ArenaNet should resolve this issue. I really love Jeremy Soule's music and Guild Wars and Jeremy Soule go together perfectly. I really hope that something changes. I hope we'll hear more of his incredible music in future games in this series!

#2 Lasur Arkinshade

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 01:05 PM

I... please let this not be true. I hope that Jeremy will return to score future Guild Wars 2 expansions. I really don't want him to go. :(

(And yeah, I know I'm sort of necroing an old thread, but this is still a relevant topic to this day, and I find it redundant making a new thread on it. That'd just clutter the forum.)

#3 Darkobra

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 01:15 PM

I'm a huge fan of his! I got his signature on my Skyrim CD! He better come back!

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 01:44 PM

This is a necro it seems but.....anyone have any update on this situation? GW2 cannot lose this man. :(

#5 MFGrady

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 01:57 PM

He said that he won't do another Guild Wars game After guild wars 2. Unless Guild Wars 2 never ever needs another song, we might be in luck.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 02:12 PM

His music is awesome, i love it. I think it's good he left, now we can hear more variation in awesome music.I mean there is more musicians than Jeremy Soule that can compose awesome music.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 02:16 PM

The rumor mill is saying that Bethesda is giving a bit more money to him than ANet.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 02:25 PM

Took me a while to find the post in question. There's been no more information on it.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 02:50 PM

Very sad to hear!! I heard that too though, I mean that Bethesda is giving him more money than ArenaNet would or could. Who knows, either way like someone else said, it's like Star Wars without John Williams. No matter how great the next is, it won't be the same!!

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:07 PM

View PostFrozyyn, on 28 October 2012 - 02:16 PM, said:

The rumor mill is saying that Bethesda is giving a bit more money to him than ANet.

I think that's incredibly good news for Jeremy and I approve. More often than not, musicians and artists in the gaming industry get shafted very often in terms of pay and recognition. So it's great to hear (even if it's rumor) that developers are willing to give them more pay to work on their titles.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:11 PM

so his facebook post implies that there was an event that he did not get invited to/let participate in but yet they still used his music?

thats a slap in the face if its true.

music is art, and him being lead composer is like being lead game art designer.

they better respect.

View PostLevelord, on 28 October 2012 - 04:07 PM, said:

I think that's incredibly good news for Jeremy and I approve. More often than not, musicians and artists in the gaming industry get shafted very often in terms of pay and recognition. So it's great to hear (even if it's rumor) that developers are willing to give them more pay to work on their titles.

i think its bad news, it means he is a *EDIT* (misuse of terminology).  Bethesda?!  they are the EA of single player mmorpgs.  i mean that because elder scrolls games and fallout games are generally plagued with severe bugs and issues that seldomly get resolved in a timely manner.  and because Bethesda has a lot of money, enough to where they can bribe talent.

View PostDarkobra, on 28 October 2012 - 02:25 PM, said:

Took me a while to find the post in question. There's been no more information on it.

This is what's bothering me about that post:

"Enjoy Guild Wars 2! The collection of people that made that game will never convene again. I am proud of the team and what they accomplished. To my friends at Arenanet, just know my thoughts are with you tonight in celebration."


WHAT?!

Edited by Rickter, 28 October 2012 - 04:56 PM.


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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:21 PM

View PostRickter, on 28 October 2012 - 04:11 PM, said:


i think its bad news, it means he is a sell out.  Bethesda?!  they are the EA of [single player mmorpgs] (I think you just made some sort mistake).  i mean that because elder scrolls games and fallout games are generally plagued with severe bugs and issues that seldomly get resolved in a timely manner.  and because Bethesda has a lot of money, enough to where they can bribe talent.


Seriously, a sell out? He owes us nothing you know, and accepting a job for another company doesn't all of a sudden make you some kind of traitor. I think it's unfortunate that he will stop working on the Guild Wars series, but I'm not calling him a sell out if he decides to work for a company that I dislike.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:29 PM

I love Soule's music and think he's done a fantastic job, but he's also devoted a large amount of his time to the GW series already, and many artists prefer to challenge themselves with new projects when they feel they've given all they can to a series. I wish him the best in future endeavors, and appreciate the contribution he's made to bringing the world of Tyria to life.

#14 Dasryn

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:33 PM

View PostAlot, on 28 October 2012 - 04:21 PM, said:

Seriously, a sell out? He owes us nothing you know, and accepting a job for another company doesn't all of a sudden make you some kind of traitor. I think it's unfortunate that he will stop working on the Guild Wars series, but I'm not calling him a sell out if he decides to work for a company that I dislike.

i apologize, i am using a rahter flamboyant terminology from days when i used to listen to punk rock (in which whenever a band signed from an independent record label to a major record label, they'd be "selling out").

in my defense hower, that is the definition of selling out.  to sign with someone else for more money.

i believe what you are saying is that jeremy justifiably *EDIT*, but, *EDIT* nonetheless.

and yes "single player mmorpgs" was a typo :D

Edited by Rickter, 28 October 2012 - 04:57 PM.


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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:52 PM

View PostRickter, on 28 October 2012 - 04:33 PM, said:

i apologize, i am using a rahter flamboyant terminology from days when i used to listen to punk rock (in which whenever a band signed from an independent record label to a major record label, they'd be "selling out").

in my defense hower, that is the definition of selling out.  to sign with someone else for more money.

i believe what you are saying is that jeremy justifiably sold out, but, sold out nonetheless.

and yes "single player mmorpgs" was a typo :D
That is not the definition of a sell out...a sell out is someone who compromises his artistic integrity for money, not just the simple fact of making money...big big difference

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:55 PM

Wait...he actually worked on GW2? I thought they simply took his music from GW1 and re-used it. I haven't heard anything new in this game, yet.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:55 PM

View PostSevens, on 28 October 2012 - 04:52 PM, said:

That is not the definition of a sell out...a sell out is someone who compromises his artistic integrity for money, not just the simple fact of making money...big big difference

WHOA! ok yeah then that was a total misuse of the term on my part, I AM SORRY!

i obviously did NOT know what the term meant and i will remove my postings. . .

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 05:05 PM

View PostAKGeo, on 28 October 2012 - 04:55 PM, said:

Wait...he actually worked on GW2? I thought they simply took his music from GW1 and re-used it. I haven't heard anything new in this game, yet.

He did compose a lot of original music for GW2, but they did reuse some GW1 stuff as well.

Edited by Lasur Arkinshade, 28 October 2012 - 05:06 PM.


#19 Red_Falcon

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 05:14 PM

Time for us Assassins to pay a visit to good ol' little Jeremy in his sleep and remind him the only other choice he has other than making awesome music is getting stabbed in the balls.
You don't simply let gamer listen to crappy music, Jeremy. We will not simply sit here and accept it.
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#20 Darkobra

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 05:17 PM

View PostSevens, on 28 October 2012 - 04:52 PM, said:

That is not the definition of a sell out...a sell out is someone who compromises his artistic integrity for money, not just the simple fact of making money...big big difference

That was a lot more concise than I was going to put it.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 06:16 PM

View PostAKGeo, on 28 October 2012 - 04:55 PM, said:

Wait...he actually worked on GW2? I thought they simply took his music from GW1 and re-used it. I haven't heard anything new in this game, yet.

4 discs worth of original music as well as some that didn't make it on the OST. Jus because you don't always hear it in the zone doesn't mean it's not there.

On topic: I love Jeremy Soule and his music and although I'll be sad if it is true I wish him all the best on future endeavors.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 06:36 PM

Meh, don't really care sorry. I believe there are many better composers that create much more varied music. Not that GW2 music isn't good, it's great but not really epic. It's repetative. Please don't kill me.

Edited by CharrGirl, 28 October 2012 - 06:37 PM.


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Posted 28 October 2012 - 08:38 PM

View PostCharrGirl, on 28 October 2012 - 06:36 PM, said:

Meh, don't really care sorry. I believe there are many better composers that create much more varied music. Not that GW2 music isn't good, it's great but not really epic. It's repetative. Please don't kill me.

You're welcomed to your opinion. But this is a major blow to the game. Who will they get to replace Jeremy? The man practically seals the atmosphere for the game with his music.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 08:59 PM

ANet needs to pay the man. Give him a blank check.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 09:00 PM

well not too long ago ANet was advertising that their lead art director that asian guy left and they replaced him fine.

Gods forbid they hire Steve Jablonsky or someone of that magnitude. . .

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 09:05 PM

People play with the original GW2 music ??
It must get boring pretty fast..

Just play with your own music.

#27 Baron von Scrufflebutt

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 09:08 PM

Tasca's Demise forever!

Having said that, the music has been getting staler with each game so a change is quite welcome.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 09:24 PM

View PostNedra, on 28 October 2012 - 09:05 PM, said:

People play with the original GW2 music ??
It must get boring pretty fast..

Just play with your own music.

Sometimes I do but I mostly like how the original music completes the atmosphere.
Devin Townsend isn't really a good ambiance for high fantasy :P

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 10:42 PM

View PostOmega X, on 28 October 2012 - 08:38 PM, said:

You're welcomed to your opinion. But this is a major blow to the game. Who will they get to replace Jeremy? The man practically seals the atmosphere for the game with his music.

And the only reason you think that is because he's the only one who did the music for Guild Wars/GW2. If it were anyone else who put out a quality score, you'd be saying the same thing about him/her.

I can't understand how this isn't more obvious.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 12:00 AM

does anyone know what he meant by "the collection of people who made this game may never convene again"?

thats a bit cryptic and concerning





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