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[Zehkari]

WTB sticky when updated <3

[Adonis De Lioncourt]

Free Tournament + Arcane Sliver + Heavy Armor = Armageddon (see profile pic)

Edited by Adonis De Lioncourt, 29 August 2012 - 10:57 AM.

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King_Kiam, on 29 August 2012 - 07:30 AM, said:

Found this list on Reddit yesterday:
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source:
http://www.reddit.co...orge_post_bwe3/

Thanks for this. This is now the third list of its kind I've got. So far they do all seem to match, which is a good sign. Also, so far these results match our findings on live.

I think what I will do later tonight, is to cross reference all the BWE lists, with our current results and update the initial post. There may still be inconsistancies but from that point, we can just correct anomolous results as we make new discoveries. Thanks everyone, and keep the data coming!

[Alektrify]

Attempted to craft Priory scepter and dagger with tournament tokens using Arcane Crystals; both attempts gave me Vigil

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Alektrify, on 29 August 2012 - 11:03 AM, said:

Attempted to craft Priory scepter and dagger with tournament tokens using Arcane Crystals; both attempts gave me Vigil

Yeah, I spent 3 Crystals trying to get my Seer's head piece, the first 2 gave me armageddon >_< It appears that the "crit" crafting mechanic may have a considerbly higher chance than I initially thought.

At some point in the future, it might be worth organising large tests with arcane orbs. I imagine eventually people will be swimming in arcane powder and orbs, so having a large number of people, each craft 10+ items and record their results, we could start to get an estimate on the actual chance to crit.

Edited by greyf0x, 29 August 2012 - 11:09 AM.

[aokuang]

greyf0x, on 29 August 2012 - 11:09 AM, said:

Yeah, I spent 3 Crystals trying to get my Seer's head piece, the first 2 gave me armageddon >_< It appears that the "crit" crafting mechanic may have a considerbly higher chance than I initially thought.

Do you receive tournament chests? I got 3 of 35+. Nothing to salvage at the moment.

Edited by aokuang, 29 August 2012 - 11:16 AM.

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aokuang, on 29 August 2012 - 11:16 AM, said:

Do you receive tournament chests? I got 3 of 35+. Nothing to salvage at the moment.

I've been getting most of my tournament chests yeah. Yesterday evening there definitely seemed to be a problem, as I won two tournaments and received no chests for them. So there's definitely a problem with the system that needs fixing.

[Demonstrative]

Free tournament + sliver + heavy also makes Heavy Plate on a critical chance.

[Seetherrr]

I'm confused that crystals are considered the uncommon ones and slivers are the rare ones when it seems like I get 5 slivers for every 1 crystal.

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Seetherrr, on 29 August 2012 - 11:55 AM, said:

I'm confused that crystals are considered the uncommon ones and slivers are the rare ones when it seems like I get 5 slivers for every 1 crystal.

This may be related to the kind of chests you are getting. Are you buying/winning lots of gold chests? If so, you will probably have more rare items, than you do uncommons.

If you were getting lots of silver chests, you'd probably see more crystals.

[Adonis De Lioncourt]

Hey guys, I have a noob question, how can I get a Paid Tournament token?

[off3nc3]

greyf0x, on 29 August 2012 - 11:09 AM, said:

Yeah, I spent 3 Crystals trying to get my Seer's head piece, the first 2 gave me armageddon >_< It appears that the "crit" crafting mechanic may have a considerbly higher chance than I initially thought.

At some point in the future, it might be worth organising large tests with arcane orbs. I imagine eventually people will be swimming in arcane powder and orbs, so having a large number of people, each craft 10+ items and record their results, we could start to get an estimate on the actual chance to crit.

Great thread +1 , funny thing is I tried free tournament + Arcane Sliver + Heavy Armor pauldrons and got PvP Pit Fighter`s Pauldrons not armageddon ones. How accurate are these recipes or is it a crit chance missing ?

[Matron]

Does anyone have the recipe for Glory Boosters?

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off3nc3, on 29 August 2012 - 06:57 PM, said:

Great thread +1 , funny thing is I tried free tournament + Arcane Sliver + Heavy Armor pauldrons and got PvP Pit Fighter`s Pauldrons not armageddon ones. How accurate are these recipes or is it a crit chance missing ?

That is weird, it's really hard to tell right now if these are anomalous results, or just how the system is meant to work. Logicially, it doesn't make sense that the rarest material has a chance to craft the most common set for that tier.

Thinking out loud here, but what if each material has a possibility to craft all 3 items from within that tier, but they are heavily weighted for one result. eg.

Orb = 80% chance of common, 10% chance of uncommon, 10% of rare.
Crystal = 10% common, 80% uncommon, 10% rare.
Sliver 10% common, 10% uncommon, 80% rare.

Personally I haven't got any results that support this though, but it's one way of explaining weird results like the one above.

Edited by greyf0x, 29 August 2012 - 07:24 PM.

[Ratboy]

I made a post in reference to a lot of the information up here to help people understand how the system works. That way maybe more people can start crafting more items and help complete this list

http://www.guildwars...fting-pvp-gear/

[T0ken]

Does anything in particular have a better chance of giving a arcane crystal? I bought like 6 gold deer chests and all i got were 3 slivers but no crystals

[Matron]

I have discovered a few recipies that I didnt find here. Everyone is begging me for the Glory Booster recipie so I hope this helps everyone.

Rabbit Finisher
1 Consumable Token
10 Powder
1 Rabbit Token
1 Orb

Deer Finisher
1 Consumable Token
10 powder
1 Deer Token
1 Orb

Random Dye
1 Consumable Token
1 Sliver
1 Orb
10 Dust

Tournament Ticket
1 Consumable Token
8 Orbs
4 Crystals
2 Slivers

Glory Booster
1 Consumable Token
1 Crystal
1 Orb
10 Dust

Hope this helps, sorry if it was already buries somewhere in this thread.



r15 LF Steady Tournament Group~!

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Matron, on 29 August 2012 - 10:49 PM, said:

I have discovered a few recipies that I didnt find here. Everyone is begging me for the Glory Booster recipie so I hope this helps everyone.

Rabbit Finisher
1 Consumable Token
10 Powder
1 Rabbit Token
1 Orb

Deer Finisher
1 Consumable Token
10 powder
1 Deer Token
1 Orb

Random Dye
1 Consumable Token
1 Sliver
1 Orb
10 Dust

Tournament Ticket
1 Consumable Token
8 Orbs
4 Crystals
2 Slivers

Glory Booster
1 Consumable Token
1 Crystal
1 Orb
10 Dust

Hope this helps, sorry if it was already buries somewhere in this thread.



r15 LF Steady Tournament Group~!

Very interesting stuff, I haven't messed with consumables at all, I didn't know you could make tickets and dye! I'll add a consumables section during the next update.

[Ratboy]

@greyf0x I remember mentioning that you'd gotten a Free Tournament Token from salvaging items from a regular chest, I just wanted to confirm this because this evening I also got one from salvaging a regular item out of a Golden Deer Chest

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@Ratboy
Thanks for the heads up on the free tourney tokens.

I've just updated the initial post to include cross-referenced BWE results (marked in green). These probably aren't 100% accurate, but they give people a starting point. If anyone crafts one of these green recipes and gets different results, please let us know, so that we can update the list with data from live.

I've also added a section for weird or buggy results, stuff that just doesn't make sense. These may be bugs, or just quirks of the system we don't yet understand.

[off3nc3]

As someone up said , would be nice if we can add some screenshots to the thread so we know what the models look like.

[zodian]

The medium armor from the free pvp tournament is as follows:
Arcane Orb: Stalwart's
Arcane crystal: Leather
Arcane Sliver: Rugged/Mistwalker (i think it's usualy rugged with a chance for mistwalker which looks way cooler).

Note: the stalwart's helm is currently bugged and will come out as commando helm. This may be attributed to the commando set being that rarer possible output for the arcane orb. I believe each mat combination has at least 2 output armor types, but i'm only completely sure about this for the slivers (tested).

Edited by zodian, 30 August 2012 - 06:34 PM.

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off3nc3, on 30 August 2012 - 06:11 PM, said:

As someone up said , would be nice if we can add some screenshots to the thread so we know what the models look like.

I've already got screenshots for all the amour types lined up ready to go, however I plan to add them to the wiki, rather than directly to this post. As you can imagine though, it's quite a time consuming job, and it's made much harder by the wiki servers being unreliable at the moment. Eventually, I'll update the wiki and link to the pages for each item. There will be literally hundreds of screenshots, too many for a post like this.

zodian, on 30 August 2012 - 06:32 PM, said:

The medium armor from the free pvp tournament is as follows:
Arcane Orb: Stalwart's
Arcane crystal: Leather
Arcane Sliver: Rugged/Mistwalker (i think it's usualy rugged with a chance for mistwalker which looks way cooler).

Note: the stalwart's helm is currently bugged and will come out as commando helm. This may be attributed to the commando set being that rarer possible output for the arcane orb. I believe each mat combination has at least 2 output armor types, but i'm only completely sure about this for the slivers (tested).

Thanks for the update. If slivers have two outcomes (possibly both unique) that would explain a few of the odd results we're seeing. I'll go ahead and add Mistwalker as the "crit" for tourney+medium+sliver. I'll also add the commando result to the buggy list.

[ghost1010]

Slightly ooff topic but it does pertain to this, which are the best chests to get? I would think gold but I see people saying copper?

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ghost1010, on 31 August 2012 - 08:31 AM, said:

Slightly ooff topic but it does pertain to this, which are the best chests to get? I would think gold but I see people saying copper?

Since you can buy 5 copper chests for the price of 1 gold, you will definitely end up with more materials that way. If you collect copper chests, you will have a much greater volume of the common item skins (and thus more common salvage materials). I can see this being good if you just want to collect a lot of rank tokens, orbs and dust. However, without buying silver and gold chests, you will have very limited access to uncommon and rare skins (and thus very few Arcane Crystals and Slivers).

Personally, I'm only buying gold chests, because I find the limiting factor is usually slivers and crystals, and not the other materials.

Edited by greyf0x, 31 August 2012 - 09:50 AM.

[off3nc3]

After crafting my armageddon set piece by piece still missing 2 , I gotta ask greyf0x what`s the best way / to salvage items from deer rank or rabbit rank to yield more free tournament tokens , the deer rank golden tokens give you arcane silvers but im short on free tournament tokens from the rank 10 glory vendor. any advice ? tnx

[Lallazier]

Just created.

Vigil Greatsword --- Free Tournament Token, Arcane Crystal, Arcane Powder, Great Sword Token

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off3nc3, on 31 August 2012 - 10:13 AM, said:

After crafting my armageddon set piece by piece still missing 2 , I gotta ask greyf0x what`s the best way / to salvage items from deer rank or rabbit rank to yield more free tournament tokens , the deer rank golden tokens give you arcane silvers but im short on free tournament tokens from the rank 10 glory vendor. any advice ? tnx

My general advice is that, you shouldn't be getting any tournament tokens by salvaging items from the regular rabbit, deer etc chests. The most reliable way to get them is to simply play a lot of tournament games. Even a single win in a tournament will often net you a 4th place copper tournament chest. Salvaging items from these tourney chests will give you tourney tokens instead of rank (rabbit etc) tokens.

Having said all that, it does appear that some items from the deer chests are currently giving tourney tokens. I've not managed to confirm which ones yet, but Ratboy confirmed that it's definitely happening, earlier in this thread. In any case, I wouldn't get too used to deer chests giving tourney tokens, as I suspect it's a bug, and will be fixed sooner or later.

@Lallazier,
Thanks for the info, looks like a perfect example of a "crit" craft for tourney+orb weapon. I've made a few vigil weapons myself now using slivers, (the GS and Sword both look awesome!) so it's one of the recipes I'm most confident is correct!

Edited by greyf0x, 31 August 2012 - 11:43 AM.

[Chroniccough]

i got a crit on medium armor last night with free token-arcane crystal-helm token and made a rugged helm. now i look like a cowboy!

[zodian]

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Thanks for the update. If slivers have two outcomes (possibly both unique) that would explain a few of the odd results we're seeing. I'll go ahead and add Mistwalker as the "crit" for tourney+medium+sliver. I'll also add the commando result to the buggy list.

It could be the "crit", but recent testing has lead my to believe that the outcome may actually be class based. I went on my thief and did sliver+tourney token and got rugged, then i went on my ranger and input the same mats and received mist walker. i tried on thief twice and got rugged. Someone should try sliver+tourney token on ranger and see if mist walker comes out to confirm that these are class based.