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#91 JaxSilven

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 11:33 PM

View PostRed_Falcon, on 26 September 2012 - 05:32 PM, said:

That maybe applies to your class or your playstyle, certainly not to mine or the game itself.



Having max FPS, a keyboard and mouse with almost no input delay, 20ms ping / DPI and an efficient keybind setup are surely major factors to make me better than the average gamer with FPS lag, input lag, high ping and poor keybinds.

Although I see you've bought into all the gaming companies advertising, have a look at the broodwar or GW1 pros. They didn't use any gaming equipment (until sponsored) it's a matter of preference. Not to mention lag doesn't make you a better player, it's generally an uncontrollable factor that can change only your gameplay (or sometimes your timings) I remember being able to q-step at 800ping while some of my friends just couldn't.
It seems the mark of a bad player to rely on equipment to be better, also begs the question; would you be any good without your equipment?
- what if your isp was going under and couldn't serve better connection?
- what if your equipment was damaged and you can't afford new stuff?
You would come off really negative from this, while a good player won't, if you see what I mean.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 12:05 AM

View PostJaxSilven, on 26 September 2012 - 11:33 PM, said:

Although I see you've bought into all the gaming companies advertising, have a look at the broodwar or GW1 pros. They didn't use any gaming equipment (until sponsored) it's a matter of preference. Not to mention lag doesn't make you a better player, it's generally an uncontrollable factor that can change only your gameplay (or sometimes your timings) I remember being able to q-step at 800ping while some of my friends just couldn't.
It seems the mark of a bad player to rely on equipment to be better, also begs the question; would you be any good without your equipment?
- what if your isp was going under and couldn't serve better connection?
- what if your equipment was damaged and you can't afford new stuff?
You would come off really negative from this, while a good player won't, if you see what I mean.

I never said hardware can make up for lack of skill, I said it makes you objectively more likely to win regardless of your skills.
It's objective that having 20ms ping vs 200ms or 60fps vs 15fps makes you win more in a game where things like blocking or interrupting or dodging require to have great timing.

The outcome of a fight is largerly about this and RNGs, the rest being of course skill.
I know people loves to think it's ALL about their magik l33t skillz but it's actually a lot about this before skills come into factor, denying this is denying simple electronics and computer basics.

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 05:41 AM

hey silven,

how about sharing some info on those defensive builds you mentioned briefly in your last video?

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 06:24 PM

View PostJaxSilven, on 21 September 2012 - 10:08 AM, said:



Was going to go into more depth, but I'm so exhausted from work that I forgot what I was talking about.
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Still has the current setup I'm running, may do a defensive build guide later on (and redo this ofc)

why are you playing with Defenders Flame? by mistake? Dont see that being of any use (without shelter)

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 09:30 PM

View PostLe_Gi, on 27 September 2012 - 06:24 PM, said:

why are you playing with Defenders Flame? by mistake? Dont see that being of any use (without shelter)

Yeah, derrrr, didn't even realise that. Will have to go fix it up. (happens from trying to select traits too fast after anet deletes them when I zone).

View Postsilkyjohnson, on 27 September 2012 - 05:41 AM, said:

hey silven,

how about sharing some info on those defensive builds you mentioned briefly in your last video?

Soon as I'm better, probably this weekend, I'll make some more videos. I have a few defensive ones but they still do damage, in otherwords they sacrifice crit and burst for armour and defensive skills!

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Posted 27 September 2012 - 09:41 PM

Hi,

which sigils are needed for this build?
(copied from the opening post:)
The current build!:
http://www.gw2build.....0.10.30.30.0.0
With Bane Signet over Contemplation as an optional!

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 04:45 AM

View PostNiekjuh, on 27 September 2012 - 09:41 PM, said:

Hi,

which sigils are needed for this build?
(copied from the opening post:)
The current build!:
http://www.gw2build.....0.10.30.30.0.0
With Bane Signet over Contemplation as an optional!

Sword/Focus
Air/Accuracy (or rage over either)
Scepter/Shield
Bloodlust/Bloodlust (with energy or ice optionals if you're having trouble)

99% of the time I run Stand your ground with CoP or Bane signet (hammer of wisdom also good) as optional, depending on the game. Just make sure to always go CoP or Hammer of wisdom if trying to 1v1 a mesmer!

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 02:03 PM

View PostJaxSilven, on 28 September 2012 - 04:45 AM, said:

Sword/Focus
Air/Accuracy (or rage over either)
Scepter/Shield
Bloodlust/Bloodlust (with energy or ice optionals if you're having trouble)

99% of the time I run Stand your ground with CoP or Bane signet (hammer of wisdom also good) as optional, depending on the game. Just make sure to always go CoP or Hammer of wisdom if trying to 1v1 a mesmer!

can't really agree with this as CoP is completely useless imo. Most of the time Smite Condition is enough + the condition removal of the heal signet and Purity Trait. When I fight a condition necro or mesmer and I use CoP I get the same amount of conditions back in under 2 seconds... so it is not worth it imo

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 04:32 PM

Was looking for a good way to use meditations and didn't know what weapon set to go along with them. Very very happy with this build and am using it in PvE, believe it or not. Level 32 and wrecking stuff even without all of the traits, including +3 level skill point mobs and Vets. Also ran out to WvW and got into a fight with an 80 Guardian. While he kicked my ass (was 26 at the time and had just respecced), I watched him blow all of his cooldowns. He stopped his stomp just to /laugh at me but I don't think he had any clue of what he just fought and why he actually won.

Anyways, good stuff and fun enough that I might finally get something to level 80.

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 06:51 AM

View PostLeandri, on 28 September 2012 - 02:03 PM, said:

can't really agree with this as CoP is completely useless imo. Most of the time Smite Condition is enough + the condition removal of the heal signet and Purity Trait. When I fight a condition necro or mesmer and I use CoP I get the same amount of conditions back in under 2 seconds... so it is not worth it imo

you can exchange CoP with SYG and in Teamfights i think you should. but CoP is great for the extra meditation and a life saver for situations when you are stuck in an immobilize. in sPvP i take this over SYG as most ppl dont bother reviving anyways

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 11:38 AM

These videos basically made me try out a Guardian after levelling my Engineer to 80. Apart from the Microphone issue absolutely great videos thanks for that!

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 10:33 AM

View Postazamyr, on 01 October 2012 - 04:32 PM, said:

Was looking for a good way to use meditations and didn't know what weapon set to go along with them. Very very happy with this build and am using it in PvE, believe it or not. Level 32 and wrecking stuff even without all of the traits, including +3 level skill point mobs and Vets. Also ran out to WvW and got into a fight with an 80 Guardian. While he kicked my ass (was 26 at the time and had just respecced), I watched him blow all of his cooldowns. He stopped his stomp just to /laugh at me but I don't think he had any clue of what he just fought and why he actually won.

Anyways, good stuff and fun enough that I might finally get something to level 80.
If you look it up I did post a guide in the PvE forums, it's also on youtube.


View Postavoidconfusion, on 02 October 2012 - 11:38 AM, said:

These videos basically made me try out a Guardian after levelling my Engineer to 80. Apart from the Microphone issue absolutely great videos thanks for that!

Awesome!!

http://www.gw2build....0.10.10.30.20.0

With 2 water runes, instead of 6 earth. My favourite bunker build atm for those who asked!!

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 02:26 PM

View PostJaxSilven, on 03 October 2012 - 10:33 AM, said:

If you look it up I did post a guide in the PvE forums, it's also on youtube.

The one with the same basic build as this, but with 1 more major in Zeal and using the GS? I might try that for DEs although using the sword/focus scepter/shield combo has been working pretty good actually. I could see the GS being better for groups of mobs, though.

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 09:25 PM

View Postazamyr, on 03 October 2012 - 02:26 PM, said:

The one with the same basic build as this, but with 1 more major in Zeal and using the GS? I might try that for DEs although using the sword/focus scepter/shield combo has been working pretty good actually. I could see the GS being better for groups of mobs, though.

Trust me, AI in GW2 are trash, the greatsword deals the most AoE DPS easily. But the sword focus is still better for single target enemies.

Edited by JaxSilven, 03 October 2012 - 09:26 PM.


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Posted 04 October 2012 - 10:41 AM

View PostJaxSilven, on 03 October 2012 - 09:25 PM, said:

Trust me, AI in GW2 are trash, the greatsword deals the most AoE DPS easily. But the sword focus is still better for single target enemies.

Oh, I wasn't doubting you. Going to buy one off the TP now, actually, before I head out to work.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 03:45 PM

JaxSilven, thanks for posting your builds and videos - they're very helpful!

Could you list out your armor/equips?

Thanks!

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 09:38 PM



View PostTheRedDread, on 04 October 2012 - 03:45 PM, said:

JaxSilven, thanks for posting your builds and videos - they're very helpful!

Could you list out your armor/equips?

Thanks!


Check the main page of this post it's up there!!

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 10:28 PM

View PostJaxSilven, on 04 October 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:






Check the main page of this post it's up there!!

The armor in that video is different than the one in your recent armor - it looks like temple/god armor? If so, which set did you picked?

Edited by TheRedDread, 05 October 2012 - 03:21 PM.


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Posted 06 October 2012 - 10:09 AM

Not sure if this has been requested/answered, but, please look into WvW, it would be greatly appreciated!

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 10:18 AM

View Postcoldkeg, on 05 September 2012 - 02:55 PM, said:

This is a joke right? What serious PvPer advocates gearing for RNG over static gains? Furthermore, it's laughable that you would be so condescending in this thread considering your so-called esports team is probably seeking corporate sponsorship. Guess what, corporations don't fund teams that shit on the public they're trying to market to.

As one of the first people to ever introduce serious corporate cash into the world of professional video gaming, let me tell you, your attitude is a real disservice to the world of e-sports. Get off your high horse, amateur.
Buuurrrnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 02:07 PM

View PostTheRedDread, on 04 October 2012 - 10:28 PM, said:

The armor in that video is different than the one in your recent armor - it looks like temple/god armor? If so, which set did you picked?

I have newer armour than this even. It's dark shoulders, pit fighter top and arms and the rest is armageddon. All but the dark are free tournament rewards and the dark is from tiger rank tokens ^^

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 05:59 AM

Posted up the worded build and will do a guide tonighhht, please reply if you want more builds because I have many I want to share (offensive builds with every weapon) and if you're interested then I will do it.
I also have some defensive builds that are very strong (i use bunker in foefire 99% of the time) and am currently looking into wvw ^^

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:26 AM

View PostJaxSilven, on 07 October 2012 - 05:59 AM, said:

currently looking into wvw ^^

This pleases me, am currently wracking my brain on stats for a wvw build.

Something like a mix of triple med with greatsword - scepter/focus or shield, focused on crit/vitality with 3k power.

the only thing I don't like is having around 14k hp.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 11:34 PM

View PostJaxSilven, on 07 October 2012 - 05:59 AM, said:

Posted up the worded build and will do a guide tonighhht, please reply if you want more builds because I have many I want to share (offensive builds with every weapon) and if you're interested then I will do it.
I also have some defensive builds that are very strong (i use bunker in foefire 99% of the time) and am currently looking into wvw ^^

Yes please. Also looking forward to the guide, totally dropped my Engineer now and am only doing sPvP with the Guardian using your tripple med build and having a blast even though I am incoherently smashing buttons at the moment hahaha

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 12:35 AM

Here are some other builds I will be doing a guide on
Offensive Hammer
http://www.gw2build.....0.20.15.30.0.5
Offensive Greatsword
http://www.gw2build.....0.25.15.30.0.0
Hammer Bunker
http://www.gw2build....0.10.10.30.20.0

Obviously subject to change and situational!!
Have updated my original post entirely if you guys want to have a look
Thanks for your time
- Silven

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For WvW I suggest this for GS
http://www.gw2build.....0.20.15.30.0.5
I haven't decided on defensive or offensive armour yet, seeing as this pumps so much damage already!

Edited by JaxSilven, 08 October 2012 - 12:39 AM.


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Posted 16 October 2012 - 08:56 AM

Due to shit irl I won't really be able to continue to be a part of the community and have severely reduced playing times, so I warn people to take this with a pinch of salt because I'm sure there will be some form of change to it in a few weeks/months and I won't be able to update anything here or offer new advice, etc.<3

Thanks for all the support ^^
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 06:50 AM

2H Guardian is not up there on the list, why?

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 02:27 PM

View Postjeddahwe, on 18 October 2012 - 06:50 AM, said:

2H Guardian is not up there on the list, why?

What do you mean? Sorry?

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 01:13 AM

Bumpidy Bump, new videos and possibly a montage coming soon ;)

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 06:36 AM

Could you expand more on the build with using the same trait setup as the original post, but using Greatsword and Sword/Shield?

Do you just use GS for group fights, and Sword/Shield for 1on1?

I was experimenting starting out with Sword Shield, doing Virtue of Justice, Smite Condition, Judge's Intervention, ZD.  Then once its all gone into cooldown, switching to Greatsword, laying down symbol of wraith, then whirling wraith with pretty good success.
I was just curious as I say you build for this in the first link, but then in your greatsword video you changed the traits and went with sword/focus.

Something like this http://gw2skills.net...GbNuak1sgYExkCA

Edited by Rendar, 19 December 2012 - 07:04 AM.





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