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#1 Cychotic

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 01:44 AM

The title pretty much says at all. Any tips on farming rares to get globs of ectoplasm?

#2 ShocknAwe

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 03:55 AM

Zone events and/or dungeons are probably your best bet.  Killing the dragon in Frostgorge whenever possible and Balthazaar in Straits of Devastation, along with the Cursed Shore and Malchor's Leap ones.  Or just run a lot of dungeons.  Even lower level dungeons will give you your level items from chests.

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#3 Reiden221

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 06:53 AM

The high end dungeons, doing the events to cleanse the temples, and be sure to buff up your magic find %

#4 dandelions

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 07:39 AM

So the explorer mode dungeons drop rares at a high rate? Because if is similar to storymdoe totally not worth it.

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 03:05 PM

Explorable mode gets me a ton of blues, some greens and 1 rare. Not worth it

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 03:12 PM

I farm the "Fine" crafting materials and make Rare Helmets to blow up.  It's not fast, but it is reliable.

#7 TSLlol

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 06:43 PM

any idea what level range items give globs of ecto? I have a number of 60 to 70 rare items, but I'm not sure if they'd drop ectos. Also what about lvl 70 exotic gear? Sell them on the trading post for ~40 silver?

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 07:58 PM

Any level 70+ rare or exotic item may have a chance to give you glob of ectoplasm(s).

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 10:19 AM

Going to throw out that I have never got a single rare from any of the world dragons or the temple cleansing events; 3 blues and 2 greens, pretty much every time.

I could be horribly unlucky, but I wouldn't get your hopes up too much if you decide to farm them.

Edit: the dragons also have stupidly long spawn times, and it's really far too expensive to waypoint around to check if they're up.

Edited by Kaiarra, 11 September 2012 - 10:21 AM.


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Posted 11 September 2012 - 12:05 PM

I bought a black lion salvage kit just to get ectos. Also it's easier to buy them on the TP or craft rares if you are trying to max 400 or upgrade from t5 to t6 armor. I found for the amount of time I spent trying to get one ecto the money I made from selling all the crap I looted was enough to just buy one off the tp.

#11 Rada

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 12:07 PM

black lion salvage kit < master slavage kit, read the numbers!

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 12:37 PM

View PostRada, on 11 September 2012 - 12:07 PM, said:

black lion salvage kit < master slavage kit, read the numbers!

The Black Lion Salvage kit clearly says "best chance of quality material". If it's not so, it will be updated accordingly.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 12:42 PM

View PostRamzaBehoulve, on 11 September 2012 - 12:37 PM, said:

The Black Lion Salvage kit clearly says "best chance of quality material". If it's not so, it will be updated accordingly.

Where exactly are you reading this? Because in game it's 100% chance to receive upgrades, and 10% chance to get rarer materials. Master's and Mystic kits should be used to salvage for ectos.

Edited by orci, 11 September 2012 - 12:42 PM.


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Posted 11 September 2012 - 02:11 PM

View Postorci, on 11 September 2012 - 12:42 PM, said:

Where exactly are you reading this? Because in game it's 100% chance to receive upgrades, and 10% chance to get rarer materials. Master's and Mystic kits should be used to salvage for ectos.

From the gem shop.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 03:51 PM

The gem shop is lying then, because the kit itself clearly says 10% chance of getting rarer materials, 100% chance to get back upgrade materials like Runes and such.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:22 PM

View PostRamzaBehoulve, on 11 September 2012 - 12:37 PM, said:

The Black Lion Salvage kit clearly says "best chance of quality material". If it's not so, it will be updated accordingly.

It has the best chance to recover upgrades, NOT the best chance to get rare mats. It actually has the lowest chance of recovering rare mats. If you want to get ectos you should use a Mystic Salvage Kit. 25% of getting rares.

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:34 PM

Question on Salvaging:  How many globs do you normally get out of a rare?

I ask because most rares I find are selling for 30s or so with some up to 50 depending on what I find.  Globs were selling for something like 18s-20s each.

Seems I would have to generally be averaging well over 1 glob per rare (probably about 1.5 to 2) in order to make it worth it to salvage things.

So far I haven't really worried about it too much but my gear is at the point now where I should be thinking about it.

Thanks!

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:39 PM

View PostZudetGambeous, on 11 September 2012 - 05:22 PM, said:

It has the best chance to recover upgrades, NOT the best chance to get rare mats. It actually has the lowest chance of recovering rare mats. If you want to get ectos you should use a Mystic Salvage Kit. 25% of getting rares.

Gem shop says otherwise.

Like I said, if it's not the best, it soon will be.

If they don't, people will complain..a lot.

Edited by RamzaBehoulve, 11 September 2012 - 05:40 PM.


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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:40 PM

View PostLappdancer, on 11 September 2012 - 05:34 PM, said:

Question on Salvaging:  How many globs do you normally get out of a rare?

I ask because most rares I find are selling for 30s or so with some up to 50 depending on what I find.  Globs were selling for something like 18s-20s each.

Seems I would have to generally be averaging well over 1 glob per rare (probably about 1.5 to 2) in order to make it worth it to salvage things.

So far I haven't really worried about it too much but my gear is at the point now where I should be thinking about it.

Thanks!

Judging from what my friend has said and personal experience, usually 1,there were a few times where we've gotten 0 and rarely 2 (infact i'm not sure if we did get 2 from a rare - i've gotten 2 from an exotic before though). Not sure about what others get

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:42 PM

View PostKyzr_Relax, on 10 September 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:

I farm the "Fine" crafting materials and make Rare Helmets to blow up.  It's not fast, but it is reliable.

Never tried that. I suppose you're not crafting lvl 80 rares, cause they need a ecto (or more..) as ingredient, right?

View PostLappdancer, on 11 September 2012 - 05:34 PM, said:

Question on Salvaging:  How many globs do you normally get out of a rare?

Really depends on luck.

Salvagin a rare of high enough lvl with the best kit, is a 1-2 ecto generally.

If you salvage exotic, is possible to get 3 ecto out of a single item.


So, really depends on ecto/rare prices.

If my rare doesn't match the cost of a single ecto, salvage.

If it can be sold for at least 2 ectos worth gold, TP it(sold few time ago a lvl 80 rare for 65s, which is about 3 ecto, that would have never got out of salvaging).

Obv, stuff changes talking about exotics, that can drop more ectos, but can be sold for waaaay much more money, that can get you much more ectos.

#21 orci

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 06:12 PM

I've actually obtained anywhere from zero to three ectos from a single rare (not exotic) level 80 item. It's possible, but I've only had it happen once. I used a master's salvaging kit as I always do with rares.

Edited by orci, 11 September 2012 - 06:12 PM.


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Posted 11 September 2012 - 06:32 PM

used black lion kit that I got out of a black lion chest, got 3 ecto off of a lvl 71 rare and 2 off of a level 70 rare.

and since I have like 4 of those kits I probably won't buy a mystic for quite some time.

#23 Spif

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 09:13 PM

The 25% chance on the Masters kit is also obviously wrong.  The salvage rate of ectos from L70+ rares is higher than 25%. Just like the Black Lion kit is much better than 10%

L80 rare armor and probably weapons take more fine crafting mats (15 of the 300/325 mats), but no ectos. So if you have 15 claws and some metal/cloth/leather/thread sitting around, you can make some ectos. But it's probably just cheaper to sell the fine crafting mats on the TP, and buy the ectos

#24 planetaska

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 06:52 AM

Salvaging rares does not work very well for me, at least in getting ectos. I have tried black lion kit and got no ecto, master kit and maybe 1 out of 5 rares, never got 2. Just some information in case someone is as bad luck as mine. :mellow:

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 06:56 AM

I think the salvage% is correct actually.. i wouldn't be surprised if every rare has exactly 3 ectos, and you have a 25% chance for each one.
Fun while it lasted.  I guess.

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 03:03 PM

Aside from chasing world events for chests, a guildie has suggested running Caudecus's Manor story mode repeatedly in magic find gear.  The easiest 4 chests you'll find in game, most likely.

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 06:46 PM

View PostZudetGambeous, on 11 September 2012 - 05:22 PM, said:

It has the best chance to recover upgrades, NOT the best chance to get rare mats. It actually has the lowest chance of recovering rare mats. If you want to get ectos you should use a Mystic Salvage Kit. 25% of getting rares.

You are assuming that Ectos are actually considered "rare mats".   Consider that there are no "rare mats".  It's not like Vanguard where you have common, rare, and ultra rare versions of one tier of materials.  There is simply the single mat per tier.  Thus the "rare mat" from a salvage is simply the next higher material.   So for 70+ items that "rare mat" is Orichalcum or other top end mat instead of Mithril, etc.   So in that case you are correct in that the Mystic Salvage kit is better than a Black Lion kit... but it's a complete assumption that Ectos follow that rule.  They may, but they very well may not, and could just be a flat percentage no matter what salvage kit you use.  They may be based on your Magic Find, or not.

Until someone actually does some significant statistical testing with a large enough sample size, testing numerous possible combinations (kit type, MF score, etc)  claiming one kit is better than another for getting Ectos is pure speculation and opinion.

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Posted 12 September 2012 - 07:15 PM

View PostJaradis Stormcaller, on 12 September 2012 - 06:46 PM, said:

You are assuming that Ectos are actually considered "rare mats".   Consider that there are no "rare mats".  It's not like Vanguard where you have common, rare, and ultra rare versions of one tier of materials.  There is simply the single mat per tier.  Thus the "rare mat" from a salvage is simply the next higher material.   So for 70+ items that "rare mat" is Orichalcum or other top end mat instead of Mithril, etc.   So in that case you are correct in that the Mystic Salvage kit is better than a Black Lion kit... but it's a complete assumption that Ectos follow that rule.  They may, but they very well may not, and could just be a flat percentage no matter what salvage kit you use.  They may be based on your Magic Find, or not.

Until someone actually does some significant statistical testing with a large enough sample size, testing numerous possible combinations (kit type, MF score, etc)  claiming one kit is better than another for getting Ectos is pure speculation and opinion.

I think 'rare' is just a terminology for 'better' to be honest. I have much higher success rate obtaining orichalum from weapons/armor with mystic kits than I do with drude. I have a much higher chance of obtaining orichalum from valuable scrap metal with mystic kits than I do crude. I have a much higher chance of finding ectos with mystic kits than i do crude.

The same can be said for magic find gear. Magic find on the wiki is defined as "better chance at finding rare loot". Does this mean it's ONLY a better chance at finding yellows? No. It means it's a better chance at finding higher quality loot (eg, uncommon, fine, rare, exotic).

Although I only have first hand experience claiming the above, I have no problem standing by the fact as I've tested thousands of salvages and came to this conclusion.

#29 Darkeh

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 01:40 PM

This got nerfed since 2 days, there is waaaay les globs coming fom rare's now.
Anet is nerfing anything that players use to make money.

More gem sales !

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 01:43 PM

Here are my stats for this morning's work:

I had 2 Black Lion Kits and Salvaged 50 lvl 80 rares. - The rate of Globs was about 1.5 per rare, the rate was descreasing even while I was going thru my second kit. 1st Kit was more like 1.9 per rare.

So after I ran out of kits I went on to make Mystic Salvage Kit - Rate for first 20 rares was 1.1 - Rate for second 20 rares was 0.9

This was all done with barely and MF score since I didn't bother to put on any MF gear while doing this. From what I gather this looks like a soft anti-farming code they have in place, of course this could be just my luck getting worse and worse.




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