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[Milennin]

pumpkin pie, on 06 September 2012 - 01:05 AM, said:

I like the Charr
I don't like the Charr area

I don't like the Charr.
I like the Charr area.

[Fluent Fox]

Char home > all other homes, I was pleasantly surprised at their level of technical prowess and love the steam punk vibe I get from their city.

All the starting areas are pretty great, imo, even the Human area which is easily the least creative.

It's a beautiful game.

[Itharius]

The Charr starter area is a very grayish zone, with lots of dark ruins and sprawling, yellow-tinged fields. It'll appeal to people who like a darker or more industrial atmosphere. People who want a brighter, sunnier starter zone would be better off in the human or Norn areas.

[Reflected Mirage]

Charr area is probably my favourite.

[Daesu]

Rather than repeat myself yet again, this is my post explaining why I hate the charr starting area:

http://www.guildwars...30#entry1929436

The charr main town, Black Citadel, must have been the last racial town that they worked on.  It is the only racial town that actually has multiple levels, but the map shows everything in a single level which is very annoying.  

In the other towns, you can click on the side control that indicates which level you want to view and that level comes into focus while objects that don't belong to that level look faded back.  In Black Citadel, that side control is missing, so they simply throw all objects into one level map so you have to mentally look at the 2D map and somehow interpret it in 3D in your own head.  Looks like a rushed job to me.

Edited by Daesu, 18 September 2012 - 11:13 PM.

[XSevSpreeX]

Daesu, on 18 September 2012 - 11:12 PM, said:

It is the only racial town that actually has multiple levels,

Have you actually walked around the other towns?

[Daesu]

XSevSpreeX, on 18 September 2012 - 11:28 PM, said:

Have you actually walked around the other towns?

So you butchered my sentence into half and misinterpreted it?

Have the attention span to read full sentences next time:   It is the only racial town that actually has multiple levels but the map shows everything in a single level which is very annoying.

Edited by Daesu, 19 September 2012 - 12:57 AM.

[lazykoala]

It was okay there are some great spots, but a lot of it does feel like a mash up of random shades of brown and metal structures. The black citadel definitely shows this as it is kind of a confusing random maze that isn't that enjoyable to run around in. I dunno I guess it represents the charr well enough, but other races have better zones/cities imo.

[Omega X]

Not everything is appealing to all people. With that said, I like the Charr area. Asura area on the other hand, the only thing appealing is the architecture. Everything else screams generic forest.

[dproject]

I think Charr area is the most interesting place for me. Forget about the fancy areas like sylvary's or ashura's, but the most important thing is more dynamic and interactive to me.

[matsif]

I hate it.  I hated it post-searing in GW1, and I still don't like it.  Black Citadel is annoying to navigate, and the desolate areas are just boring and bland to me.  The only exception is the whole dragonbrand area, with the shatterer fight and such around there, and the few green areas in the zones that resemble where I actually live, so its kinda nice to look at that when I can see the real thing out my front window.

I've always been partial to the shiverpeaks since GW1 though, and as such I like the norn areas the best.

[XSevSpreeX]

Daesu, on 19 September 2012 - 12:44 AM, said:

So you butchered my sentence into half and misinterpreted it?

Have the attention span to read full sentences next time:   It is the only racial town that actually has multiple levels but the map shows everything in a single level which is very annoying.

I did read the full sentence. If you had phrased it, "It's the only racial town that has multiple levels that aren't visible separately on the map," then your meaning would have been more clear. The way you phrased it leaves it to be interpreted as "It's the only racial town that actually has multiple levels. The fact that the map shows everything in a single level is very annoying."

[Daesu]

XSevSpreeX, on 19 September 2012 - 01:36 AM, said:

I did read the full sentence. If you had phrased it, "It's the only racial town that has multiple levels that aren't visible separately on the map," then your meaning would have been more clear. The way you phrased it leaves it to be interpreted as "It's the only racial town that actually has multiple levels. The fact that the map shows everything in a single level is very annoying."

Granted that English is not my first language, but nobody else has any problem understanding what I wrote so far, besides you.

Edited by Daesu, 19 September 2012 - 07:14 AM.

[Sleepyx732]

Daesu, on 19 September 2012 - 07:02 AM, said:

Granted that English is not my first language, but nobody else has any problem understanding what I wrote so far, besides you.

I didn't understand. Call me stupid if it makes you feel any better..

[Daesu]

Sleepyx732, on 19 September 2012 - 07:16 AM, said:

I didn't understand. Call me stupid if it makes you feel any better..

Then simply ignore my inconsequential posts.

[phani_kaushik]

I did feel a bit uncomfortable when I hit black citadel on my Sylvarian while exploring. But once I stepped into Plains of Ashford, I started loving it - brings back the memories of my brief time in GW1 and how the world has changed.

[Raemyi]

Daesu, on 19 September 2012 - 07:02 AM, said:

Granted that English is not my first language, but nobody else has any problem understanding what I wrote so far, besides you.

I didn't understand either.  If you don't mind me asking, why are you upset that someone misunderstood your sentence, when you admit that it isn't in your first language?  It seems to me that misunderstandings like that would be commonplace, or even expected.  Heck, I speak English exclusively, and people *always* misinterpret what I say.


Anyway, back on topic, I liked the charr starting areas because, basically, they're pre-searing Ascalon from GW1, minus a few specific landmarks.  The land has largely regrown, especially around the lakes, and provides a nice mix of natural beauty and nostalgia.  The charr cities and structures, however, look like they were just plopped down on top of whatever they wanted.  Charr build for practicality, not aesthetics, and boy does it show!  Steampunk just isn't my thing, but the land itself is pretty, so for me their areas end up feeling so-so.  They'd be so much nicer if the charr built their buildings with as much artistic flair as their weapons.

[Daesu]

Raemyi, on 19 September 2012 - 07:28 AM, said:

I didn't understand either.  If you don't mind me asking, why are you upset that someone misunderstood your sentence, when you admit that it isn't in your first language?  It seems to me that misunderstandings like that would be commonplace, or even expected.  Heck, I speak English exclusively, and people *always* misinterpret what I say.

uh...Who says I am upset?  Maybe it is the way I usually talk, since I have been role playing too much charr and norn lately.

By the way, another reason why I dislike the charr area is because I played GW1.  Aren't those Ascalonians suppose to be the good guys?  Just because they suffered a terrible fate, doesn't imply that we should keep killing them.  In GW1 prophecies, the hero is suppose to be an ascalonian.  Can you blame them for being mad at the charrs after what the charrs have done to their land?  Compare the beauty of Ascalon in GW1 pre-searing with the state of Ascalon right now and you can see that the land of Ascalon has been scarred really bad.

Edited by Daesu, 19 September 2012 - 07:40 AM.

[Relish]

I enjoyed the charr area a lot, and since its right next to snow areas, that makes it even better. Snow areas are the worst, be it tundra, or mountains, i have to live in that weather 9 months of the year, i don't want it in vidya games.

[phani_kaushik]

Relish, on 19 September 2012 - 07:32 AM, said:

I enjoyed the charr area a lot, and since its right next to snow areas, that makes it even better. Snow areas are the worst, be it tundra, or mountains, i have to live in that weather 9 months of the year, i don't want it in vidya games.

Off the topic, since you brought it up, I have enjoyed Hoelbrak and 1-15 lvl area in Shiverpeaks. I'm doing 15-25 lvl area right now, and its highly unsettling for me. Hardly any life seen anywhere, even if its NPC's. I hardly come across even any player at all. I explore and enjoy the scenery and NPC interactions in almost every map. Now I just want to finish this map ASAP and get out of this area. Probably its the Jormag's doing of corruption that's causing this feeling to me :/

[rebalnz]

Relish, on 19 September 2012 - 07:32 AM, said:

I enjoyed the charr area a lot, and since its right next to snow areas, that makes it even better. Snow areas are the worst, be it tundra, or mountains, i have to live in that weather 9 months of the year, i don't want it in vidya games.

everyone has their own opinion i guess. i f###ing love the snow zones. couldn't get enough of them. charr areas IDK they were alright the purple parts were pretty cool but didn't digg the general landscape. +those areas gave my fps hell.although that's mainly to do with the whole high end system low fps thing going around.

[LavaSquid]

phani_kaushik, on 19 September 2012 - 07:40 AM, said:

Off the topic, since you brought it up, I have enjoyed Hoelbrak and 1-15 lvl area in Shiverpeaks. I'm doing 15-25 lvl area right now, and its highly unsettling for me. Hardly any life seen anywhere, even if its NPC's. I hardly come across even any player at all. I explore and enjoy the scenery and NPC interactions in almost every map. Now I just want to finish this map ASAP and get out of this area. Probably its the Jormag's doing of corruption that's causing this feeling to me :/

Yes i feel it too, not sure if it is intended or not. I am in Lornar's Pass now, can't wait to get out of here lol.

[charrkitty]

Love the Charr area to bits, also love the Charr. Glad they got their land back from those pesky invading humans

[XSevSpreeX]

Daesu, on 19 September 2012 - 07:02 AM, said:

Granted that English is not my first language, but nobody else has any problem understanding what I wrote so far, besides you.

Understood, my apologies then. You still speak better English than some people that did learn it as their first language.

Daesu, on 19 September 2012 - 07:30 AM, said:

By the way, another reason why I dislike the charr area is because I played GW1.  Aren't those Ascalonians suppose to be the good guys?  Just because they suffered a terrible fate, doesn't imply that we should keep killing them.  In GW1 prophecies, the hero is suppose to be an ascalonian.  Can you blame them for being mad at the charrs after what the charrs have done to their land?  Compare the beauty of Ascalon in GW1 pre-searing with the state of Ascalon right now and you can see that the land of Ascalon has been scarred really bad.

Think of it as the ghosts violently attacking you in an attempt to drive you (or rather, the charr) from their homeland and you're simply fighting them in self defense. By the sound of it, it seems like that's what's actually happening, although the charr definitely seem to be eager to fight back.

Edited by XSevSpreeX, 19 September 2012 - 09:47 AM.

[Chaos]

I've only been up to the second charr area, but I enjoyed them a lot. Among my favorites ATM

[rick1027]

Milennin, on 18 September 2012 - 09:40 PM, said:

I don't like the Charr.
I like the Charr area.

me too

[Impmon]

I think the Charr have the best starting area simply because all the quests are almost side by side.  As for looks I like all the areas so far but the one place that really caught my eye was the tropical type area with dunes and palm tree's it looked really nice.  Forget the name though.

[Domynic]

Ascalon looks great, the ruins and the wilderness.

The Black Citadel looks alright too, but it's a terrible, terrible layout if you want to get anywhere.

[Linfang]

The Charr area is wonderful. I did 100% of the starter area on my Asura. A lot of deep seated historical areas and I like the Indian Summer, Autumn feel to it. Lots of warm colors and very fuzzy.

[Azelle]

I'm not a fan of the city (though it's cool just too cold to my liking) or the very first levels outside the Citadel but then it opens up and wow! The ruins, the autumn theme trees, the rock peaks it's beautiful in a desolated way, I really like it. I'm the type of player who can stop every 10 min to just climb somewhere and take screenshots and I took a lot while leveling my Charr. Often I go omg Anet artists way to go! The details!
So I would tell your friends, suffer the first 5 levels or so it soon become very nice!