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#61 Dasryn

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 12:58 AM

this game needs a shot in the arm to generate content other than some dungeons, that encourage players to group up.

#62 omar316

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 01:12 AM

View PostRickter, on 07 November 2012 - 12:58 AM, said:

this game needs a shot in the arm to generate content other than some dungeons, that encourage players to group up.

Hey sup, now we're talking the same language, lack of content.

#63 Dasryn

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 01:59 AM

not so much lack of content, more like, lack of incentive. . . to group up.

#64 Fenice_86

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:20 AM

damn it, finally yesterday i found Arah gates open, no bugs, a party and... after killing the Mouth the mission gets stuck -.-

I say f*** it!

#65 Lordkrall

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:22 AM

View PostFenice_86, on 07 November 2012 - 09:20 AM, said:

damn it, finally yesterday i found Arah gates open, no bugs, a party and... after killing the Mouth the mission gets stuck -.-

I say f*** it!

Sure it got stuck and not just the fact that you were inpatient? ^^
I remember thinking it was stuck aswell seeing as it does take quite some time between killing the Mouth and the progression of the mission.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:29 AM

View PostLordkrall, on 07 November 2012 - 09:22 AM, said:

Sure it got stuck and not just the fact that you were inpatient? ^^
I remember thinking it was stuck aswell seeing as it does take quite some time between killing the Mouth and the progression of the mission.

we have reboard to the ship, waited like 15 mins, spoke with any NPC, killed any remaining enemy... nothing happened

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:37 AM

90% of the story mode is fun and challenging. The airship battles leading from point to point is uber cool. The growing sense of pushing into the final battle is amazing. The whole experience leading to zhaitan is great.

But zhaitan himself is a bit disappointing. He didnt put up much of a fight at all. Just let the canons shoot, kill tentacles and mobs. Te cinematic feel is good but the fight was much better against his champions we have to kill with the canons.

Overall mission was amazing, zhaitan himself sucks.

View Postomar316, on 07 November 2012 - 01:12 AM, said:



Hey sup, now we're talking the same language, lack of content.

Hey sup. GW2 has enough content for now. If you want to go to a paying MMO to feel the grind as content then do so. GW2 doesn't force you to stay because there's no sub.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 11:00 AM

View PostCoren, on 07 November 2012 - 09:37 AM, said:

90% of the story mode is fun and challenging. The airship battles leading from point to point is uber cool. The growing sense of pushing into the final battle is amazing. The whole experience leading to zhaitan is great.

But zhaitan himself is a bit disappointing. He didnt put up much of a fight at all. Just let the canons shoot, kill tentacles and mobs. Te cinematic feel is good but the fight was much better against his champions we have to kill with the canons.

Overall mission was amazing, zhaitan himself sucks.



Hey sup. GW2 has enough content for now. If you want to go to a paying MMO to feel the grind as content then do so. GW2 doesn't force you to stay because there's no sub.

Hey sup, I don't need you to tell me what to do with my computer or time. And on that note what makes you even think I'm still playing this crap?

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 11:37 AM

View Postomar316, on 07 November 2012 - 11:00 AM, said:



Hey sup, I don't need you to tell me what to do with my computer or time. And on that note what makes you even think I'm still playing this crap?

Nice knowing you, good bye.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 11:51 AM

HEY SUP!

i wanted to say it too!

#71 omar316

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 01:07 PM

View PostCoren, on 07 November 2012 - 11:37 AM, said:

Nice knowing you, good bye.

Lol. Kept me entertained for 15 mins.
+1 entertainment value.

#72 Ventaris Progeny

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:30 AM

I don't think that we should actually fight the Elder Dragons. They should only ever be seen and their presence resisted rather than defeated. I think that they are too powerful to be reduced to the level of mindless beasts to be hunted. Instead they should be like the human gods.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 10:48 AM

View PostVentaris Progeny, on 11 February 2013 - 02:30 AM, said:

I don't think that we should actually fight the Elder Dragons. They should only ever be seen and their presence resisted rather than defeated. I think that they are too powerful to be reduced to the level of mindless beasts to be hunted. Instead they should be like the human gods.

I take it you never played through the GW1 Nightfall campaign.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 10:56 AM

Gotta say fight with zhaitan was disappointing. If only we fought him but nooo it's just auto shoot at him from ship and fight risen for X minutes.

We don't even know for sure if he is dead since we didn't go for the body afiak

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:36 PM

View PostVentaris Progeny, on 11 February 2013 - 02:30 AM, said:

I don't think that we should actually fight the Elder Dragons. They should only ever be seen and their presence resisted rather than defeated. I think that they are too powerful to be reduced to the level of mindless beasts to be hunted. Instead they should be like the human gods.

As was said, in nightfall you basically kill Abaddon for all time, but his essence is absorbed by Kormir, bringing a new god.

On topic: the story dungeon itself was a lot of.fun, but zhaitan himself? Disappointing. We basically fight his minions until a laser.cuts his wing off, then lets himself get flakked to oblivion... Not very thrilling.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 12:59 PM

I've done Arah SM twice with Guildies, both times the whole group has thought the mission was amazing! Anet's put a lot of hard work graphic-wise into the last mission, Sure Zhaitan could have actually done something.. maybe he was tired :)

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 04:24 PM

I agree, the grand finale is... just disappointing. The ground portion is okay but nothing special. The airship battle is really awesome in concept, but falls because it is quite buggy (have to wait a lot between encounters) and feels extremely artificial which kinda kills the excitement for me. And of course, the "fight" against Zhaitan.
Overall I get a "we ran out of time" feel from it, just doesn't feel as polished as the other dungeons.

#78 Westwater

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 05:29 PM

Here's how the Zhaitan fight should have gone.

Edited by Westwater, 11 February 2013 - 05:33 PM.


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Posted 14 February 2013 - 02:12 PM

View Postomar316, on 07 November 2012 - 11:00 AM, said:

Hey sup, I don't need you to tell me what to do with my computer or time. And on that note what makes you even think I'm still playing this crap?

If you're not playing it and dislike it, why are you here? If you're unhappy with a game, find a better game. I don't hang about the Skyrim forums making useless sweeping generalisations. I moved on to other games.

Or maybe just get yourself a nice girl. That'll keep you occupied. It's Valentine's day today!

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 03:04 PM

I think the Zhaitan fight started promising, but they made a mistake by ending it with us shooting cannons from a rather save distance at him. In my opinion the fight could be same up to that point, then make the part with firing at him shorter and end it with Zhaitan jumping at the airship. He now dracks it down, with the ship crashing on him. He is still alive though and his mouth tendrils/dragons attack you. The player now has to defend the ship wreck until Zojja managed to get the selfdestruction working. When it's done you jump off and flee and watch from the distance as the Glory of Tyria explodes, taking Zhaitan with it.
That would feel much more heroic than shooting that poor bloke while he can barely defend himself. However I'm not sure if that would be possible with the engine.

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 04:21 PM

View PostBuddhaKeks, on 14 February 2013 - 03:04 PM, said:

I think the Zhaitan fight started promising, but they made a mistake by ending it with us shooting cannons from a rather save distance at him. In my opinion the fight could be same up to that point, then make the part with firing at him shorter and end it with Zhaitan jumping at the airship. He now dracks it down, with the ship crashing on him. He is still alive though and his mouth tendrils/dragons attack you. The player now has to defend the ship wreck until Zojja managed to get the selfdestruction working. When it's done you jump off and flee and watch from the distance as the Glory of Tyria explodes, taking Zhaitan with it.
That would feel much more heroic than shooting that poor bloke while he can barely defend himself. However I'm not sure if that would be possible with the engine.
It probably could be done with transitional cinematics between stages.

#82 Ingway

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Posted 14 February 2013 - 04:22 PM

One other thing they promised us with that fight was that you would be able to find his body after you fought him on the map, so yeah... Kinda dissapointing you can't even see his body at least outside of the map boundries.


As for the fight, yeah it was kinda dissapointing, i was sort of hoping that when he lost his wings, the dragon would pull or at least crash the ship you were in with something, forcing it to crash land on top of the tower the dragon was hanging into, you'd fight his face on top of the tower then.

Edited by Ingway, 14 February 2013 - 04:24 PM.


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Posted 14 February 2013 - 08:24 PM

I would rather at the end we obtain an Ultra Mega Mecha Zord power suit & when it seems like we've been defeated we power up to super saiyan ultra mega mecha zord level 5 and shoryuken Zhaitan & win the game.




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