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#1 VisualNover

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 06:38 AM

As with last night's post (I believed it was deleted), I have sent a PM to one of the devs in the official forum, and I have received this reply.


"Thank you very much for letting us know about this! I brought this up with some of the designers, and they believe they’ve fixed the issue. Is there any way you could confirm this?
I look forward to hearing from you!"

Jason King

To those hoping to get legendary precursors through this method, it has either been removed or drastically reduced to get the chances of getting it. The remaining weapons in my account shall remained locked till I figure out what to do with them.

I am very pleased that the game is a better state for now :)

Mod edit:
You can still get the pre-cursors by using lvl 75+ rare quality weapons. One of the developers confirmed it on the official forums, post can be found here: https://forum-en.gui...irst#post177452

Edited by Drogon, 19 September 2012 - 08:06 PM.


#2 KilIua

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 06:46 AM

This doesn't even make sense, please post the PM and the question you asked in a screenshot.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 06:49 AM

what was the problem? did throwing 4 rares give 100% chance of a legendary base?

and inb4 OP decides to sell

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 06:56 AM

View Postlmaonade, on 19 September 2012 - 06:49 AM, said:

what was the problem? did throwing 4 rares give 100% chance of a legendary base?

and inb4 OP decides to sell

No it didn't, you had a small chance of getting them, but it wasn't 100%. This really needs to be clarified, otherwise a lot of people will be unhappy when they continually throw in rares expecting a legendary precursor.

I'm wondering if this applies to exotics as well, or only the rares? I would assume it's only related to the rares judging by his post.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 06:59 AM

View PostKilIua, on 19 September 2012 - 06:56 AM, said:

No it didn't, you had a small chance of getting them, but it wasn't 100%. This really needs to be clarified, otherwise a lot of people will be unhappy when they continually throw in rares expecting a legendary precursor.

I'm wondering if this applies to exotics as well, or only the rares? I would assume it's only related to the rares judging by his post.

I thought that was intended, since the guide for legendaries posted that the possibility of forging a legendary base was through either 4 rares or exotics.

Guess it was meant for exotics only

#6 VisualNover

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 07:18 AM

Alright, last night's post was about me making at least 900+ gold off the TP (my screenshot had 750G in my bank), but I'm now currently sitting at 100 gold because I bought off the TP's dawns/dusk because of this exploit (I have in total 15 GS precursors).

This method goes like this

1) Craft 2 Godskull GS + 2 Carrion Krait Slayer (rare), 2 65s + 2 80s = chance for exotic. Any 4 rares in the past can upgrade to precursors. I also believe that creating dusk/dawn is related to time and not random. I kept getting dawns in the morning and dusks during the night time. I have no clue about whether exotics now can change into a precursor.
2) It costs 60 silvers when I initially crafted it. I can sell the exotics that I get for average 3.5 G even at 20% chance. You can't really lose money.
3) If I get precursor, immediately profit 50-100 times by selling it at 60-70 G.

I was sickened by the players' attitudes who were trying to profit from people that I immediately started undercutting people by selling it at 60G and then buying all the remaining people's 80-90G dusks/dawns to prevent monopoly of the market. The 100G weapons are out of my reach, unfortunately.

Edited by VisualNover, 19 September 2012 - 07:31 AM.


#7 frank

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 07:35 AM

well this  makes me feel like an idiot for spending all of my gold on exotics and not getting 1 lgd precursor

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 07:48 AM

So they removed the chance of turning 4 rares into a legendary?

Fair enough.  Prices are going to go up now I guess, unfortunately.  Here I was thinking I could wait until they were the last component I needed :P

What you should do with the last precursors you have is fund some kind of competition.  A great race, SS  contest or a riddle contest where you have four random items in your own 'Mystic Forge' recipe and people have to decipher your riddles :P.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 07:49 AM

Man i should've saved my dusk, i thought prices were going to go down so i sold it. Now they are just inflating :[

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 07:53 AM

View PostCarthaginian, on 19 September 2012 - 07:48 AM, said:

So they removed the chance of turning 4 rares into a legendary?

Fair enough.  Prices are going to go up now I guess, unfortunately.  Here I was thinking I could wait until they were the last component I needed :P

What you should do with the last precursors you have is fund some kind of competition.  A great race, SS  contest or a riddle contest where you have four random items in your own 'Mystic Forge' recipe and people have to decipher your riddles :P.

Wait wait wait...so now you are saying it is not possible to craft legendary pre-cursors at all via the Mystic forge?  What are we supposed to do then?  Just wait for a world drop & or save 1000g now that no one has options?

Everything else up until this change made legendary weapons possible to obtain.  If we have no way of crafting them whatsoever that could very well make me quit altogether.  The price of these weapons is going to skyrocket 10 times & be out of reach for 98% of the population.

Edited by Bennyandthejets, 19 September 2012 - 07:56 AM.


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Posted 19 September 2012 - 07:59 AM

Not sure if Im following but what you are saying is that you have made 900g, then got the "exploit" fixed. And you actually have the balls to say "I am very pleased that the game is a better state for now :) ". Not to mention all the weapons you have bought for it are only going up in the price because of this change... wow

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 08:09 AM

I want a official post on this from A-Net tomorrow morning.  If this is true & this is the approach they are going to take it may very well mean uninstalling.  I dumped everything I have into crafting a legendary since launch, with the knowledge that I can craft my own legendary prerequisite as long as I am persistent only to be told, umm yeah were going to make it a world drop only & add 1000g to your grind as that is what you will have to pay to get one off the TP.

This needs to be addressed immediately.  Also if this does go live, individuals who have a prerequisite in their possession & all profit made by making them needs to be reverted.

Edited by Bennyandthejets, 19 September 2012 - 08:10 AM.


#13 Matt_Night

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 08:13 AM

View PostMaddox991, on 19 September 2012 - 07:59 AM, said:

Not sure if Im following but what you are saying is that you have made 900g, then got the "exploit" fixed. And you actually have the balls to say "I am very pleased that the game is a better state for now :) ". Not to mention all the weapons you have bought for it are only going up in the price because of this change... wow

That pretty much sums it up.

#14 VisualNover

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 08:13 AM

View PostMaddox991, on 19 September 2012 - 07:59 AM, said:

Not sure if Im following but what you are saying is that you have made 900g, then got the "exploit" fixed. And you actually have the balls to say "I am very pleased that the game is a better state for now :) ". Not to mention all the weapons you have bought for it are only going up in the price because of this change... wow

Which is why I state I'm locking it in my bank until I decide what I want to do with it. I can only try and sell it cheaper to the players who worked hard to earn 60+ g and sell it at that price. The others are trying to push up the price upwards... and I'm certain that Anet will make sure a craftable prerequisite will happen.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 08:17 AM

View PostMaddox991, on 19 September 2012 - 07:59 AM, said:

Not sure if Im following but what you are saying is that you have made 900g, then got the "exploit" fixed. And you actually have the balls to say "I am very pleased that the game is a better state for now :) ". Not to mention all the weapons you have bought for it are only going up in the price because of this change... wow
In all, OP's losing capital - provided they do what they should..~

Edited by Soki, 19 September 2012 - 08:17 AM.


#16 KilIua

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 08:32 AM

This is ridiculous, and I can't believe this actually happened. Arenanet needs to release a statement regarding this to the community.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 08:42 AM

View PostKilIua, on 19 September 2012 - 08:32 AM, said:

This is ridiculous, and I can't believe this actually happened. Arenanet needs to release a statement regarding this to the community.

Yes, like 8:00am tomorrow morning.  Crafting a legendary "IS THE END GAME" for many in GW2.  Meaning this would completely change the game as we know it.  Made another post related to it because quite frankly people need to start getting vocal about it.

http://www.guildwars...y-we-need-info/

Edited by Bennyandthejets, 19 September 2012 - 08:44 AM.


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Posted 19 September 2012 - 09:02 AM

If it's true its getting a bit tiresome with them making things harder after other people have already got the rewards the 'easy' way.

Like removing tonnes of karma mats for cooking screwing those who didn't get it to 400 yet, upping the price on the armor/weapons but not removing then from people who've already bought it, lowering the amount of dungeon tokens dropping after people have already farmed sets, and now this rumoring that you can't mystic forge the pre-ledge weapons = anyone who hasn't already bought one is screwed?

Surely not...

Not quite sure if OP's implying you can't mystic forge it at all or if you can only forge it with exotics rather than rares... either is kinda annoying considering people have already acquired them via this method.

Edited by Kaiarra, 19 September 2012 - 09:02 AM.


#19 Kaeoz

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 09:03 AM

Wait let me get this straight.... to prevent a monopoly of the market... you monopolized the market....

I don't get it. You were sickened by people's attitudes who legitimately got a dawn/dusk and wanted to sell for profit? Or sickened by other people "exploiting" this like you were?

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 09:08 AM

View PostKaeoz, on 19 September 2012 - 09:03 AM, said:

Wait let me get this straight.... to prevent a monopoly of the market... you monopolized the market....

I don't get it. You were sickened by people's attitudes who legitimately got a dawn/dusk and wanted to sell for profit? Or sickened by other people "exploiting" this like you were?

Correct, I "monopolized" the market and am now considering whether I should give them away to random players. Right now I'm at work, but to be honest, I could have easily kept quiet about all this and have no need to explain myself. Take what you want from me. This is my first MMORPG, and I'm just utterly disappointed as to how things turned out (including how some users think I'm one evil person).

Edited by VisualNover, 19 September 2012 - 09:11 AM.


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Posted 19 September 2012 - 09:09 AM

Someone should make a thread about this on the official forums, there's a higher chance of receiving a statement from Anet about this there than here.
If this is true, there will be a mad rush of people buying out the legendary precursors on the TP . I have my doubts that this may be the original intention of the OP.
It'd be best to wait for an official response, or for someone to test it out.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 09:11 AM

Another **** up by arena net so a small minority get advantages and the rest are left with a bitter taste of getting screwed.

Im tired of these stupid bugs and stupid exploits of THE CORE MECHANICS OF THE GAME. They should never have released the game until it was ready like they said they would.....

By the way party invites and guilds / upgrades are bugged again after the last update....

The game was not ready for launch, how many more **** ups until they admit it?

They should perma ban anyone who was involved in this including you.

Edited by Eon Lilu, 19 September 2012 - 09:12 AM.


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Posted 19 September 2012 - 09:12 AM

I've easily spent over 50g on trying to get one of these and now it gets nerfed and all I got was crap... xD
Thanks for letting us know though, appreciated :)

Although I'm still waiting for Patch Notes, maybe it was fixed in today's patch...
Hopefully we'll not be dependant on World Drops though -.-

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 09:13 AM

View PostVisualNover, on 19 September 2012 - 09:08 AM, said:

Correct, I "monopolized" the market and am now considering whether I should give them away to random players. Right now I'm at work, but to be honest, I could have easily kept quiet about all this and have no need to explain myself. Take what you want from me. This is my first MMORPG, and I'm just utterly disappointed as to how things turned out (including how some users think I'm one evil person).

I don't expect an explanation from you but obviously you have good intentions if you understand that the recipe was breaking the economy. So basically I'm to understand it like 4 rares gives you a chance at the legendary precursor much higher than was intended?

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 09:15 AM

View PostVisualNover, on 19 September 2012 - 09:08 AM, said:

Correct, I "monopolized" the market and am now considering whether I should give them away to random players. Right now I'm at work, but to be honest, I could have easily kept quiet about all this and have no need to explain myself. Take what you want from me. This is my first MMORPG, and I'm just utterly disappointed as to how things turned out (including how some users think I'm one evil person).

Well we can commend you for that.  Thank you for bringing this to everyone attention because quite frankly who knows how long it would be before A-Net actually said anything.  I've spent ALOT of money trying to craft one of these weapons (Used 20 greatswords in mystic forge so far & have nothing to show for it) & come up empty handed, & probably would have continued to do so had I not known this.  Hopefully this sparks a huge wildfire of debate & provokes a official response because prerequisite weapons should have a craftable recipe that gaurantee's 100% success.

Edited by Bennyandthejets, 19 September 2012 - 09:16 AM.


#26 VisualNover

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 09:16 AM

View PostEon Lilu, on 19 September 2012 - 09:11 AM, said:

Another **** up by arena net so a small minority get advantages and the rest are left with a bitter taste of getting screwed.

Im tired of these stupid bugs and stupid exploits of THE CORE MECHANICS OF THE GAME. They should never have released the game until it was ready like they said they would.....

By the way party invites and guilds / upgrades are bugged again after the last update....

The game was not ready for launch, how many more **** ups until they admit it?

They should perma ban anyone who was involved in this including you.

*shakes head*

So much for being nice in the game. I like the amount of BULLSHIT that I have to take. Even your pinned legendary guide tells you how to get the legendary precursor, but no one actually bothered to report your esteemed guide writer or make noise about it. You are angry because other people got to take advantage.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 09:21 AM

View PostVisualNover, on 19 September 2012 - 09:16 AM, said:

*shakes head*

So much for being nice in the game. I like the amount of BULLSHIT that I have to take. Even your pinned legendary guide tells you how to get the legendary precursor, but no one actually bothered to report your esteemed guide writer or make noise about it. You are angry because other people got to take advantage.

Im annoyed that the trading post has been made useless by taxes and exploits, plus it being down for weeks broke the economy. Im annoyed that core mechanics of the game are still broken or bugged, im annoyed arena net lies when they said they would not release the game until it was ready, im annoyed that there are loads of exploits left in the game that shows the testers must of been asleep while playing. Im annoyed iv been lied to by support team about replacing my lost pre order items, im annoyed about many many things about this game. It has become such a long list no post would give it justice.

Now we all get screwed because a minority of players decided to take advantage of the situation and your one of them and you expect everyone to love you all of a sudden because you spoke up? I don't think so mate. I hope you get perma banned with the rest of them.

Edited by Eon Lilu, 19 September 2012 - 09:21 AM.


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Posted 19 September 2012 - 09:44 AM

Some people will believe anything. :lol:

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 10:05 AM

View PostVisualNover, on 19 September 2012 - 09:16 AM, said:

*shakes head*

So much for being nice in the game. I like the amount of BULLSHIT that I have to take. Even your pinned legendary guide tells you how to get the legendary precursor, but no one actually bothered to report your esteemed guide writer or make noise about it. You are angry because other people got to take advantage.

the legendary guide writer was reporting legitimate methods he found on how to obtain legendary precursors to the community, while you are saying that you've reported an exploit in the system AFTER you've profited from it. Not even close to being the same.

I don't particularly care you that you profited so much out of this exploit, but going around posing as some white knight and thinking you've made the game a better place is just stupid to me.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 10:08 AM

Mmm, I am getting confuse here, as far as I knew, and reading "crafting legendary guides" , it was said that there was a change to get the legendary precursors from "rares", now you are saying this is gone? or that it was an exploit? Yesterday I spent lot of money in rare greatswords and crafting rare greatswords, and was trying to get a Dusk or Dawn in the Mystic Forge, but I didn't get anything, all I got was another rare greatsword... or you are lying, or something, otherwise I would have my legendary precursors by yesterday, or ArenaNet removed the possibility to get them with rares? because was an exploit?

So, what is going on? while I didn't see any official info from ArenaNet.

Edited by malevolence, 19 September 2012 - 10:10 AM.





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