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#1 sanedude

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:02 PM

Well it's been a month since the official release of Guild Wars 2. Usually it's the first month that gives the hint that the game is either successful or not. So I was curious, is anyone having fun? I reached 80 2 weeks ago and continue to play on that character, and still love it. I know many people worry about a lack of "endgame." I am also excited to start up alts and try other professions. What I also want to know is, is there anyone that thinks the game is getting slow? Do you see yourself quitting any time soon? I still see the game as alive and well, haven't noticed a big decrease in population. I see myself continuing the game for months to come, and I definitely will be buying all expansions. I really wish my rl friends would play, but one quit, another has a crap computer, and another is jobless and doesn't have the money.

All in all, the topic of this thread asks, what is your opinion of Guild Wars 2 after a months experience with it. Do you think the community will continue to grow, or will the game start to decline in sales.

#2 BloatedGuppy

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:07 PM

I've been 80 for about 2 weeks as well, and I am still having fun tooling about, doing WvWvW, and playing on alts. I'll be taking a break when X-Com launches, but I'm relatively well disposed to the game. It's certainly not perfect though. Buggy content is a particular issue that I find wearing, and that has taken quite a bit of luster off the game in later levels.

Population has declined from launch, but the game still feels well populated and vital. The real population measure for a game is about three months out, so the end of November/December will give you your best indication of whether the game will carry some momentum forward or fall back into the pack.

#3 Bautista

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:08 PM

After a month, I am only level 41 (due to RL responsibilities), but I'm still having a blast and generally excited to log in when I do.  I will definitely be playing for awhile as there are multiple professions I still want to play, and I will admit I kind of am an achievement whore and will be working on trying to complete all those as well.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:11 PM

I am at level 63 and have been leveling in norn areas and WvW exclusively. I can't wait to start an alt and explore all new areas. Still having a lot of fun.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:15 PM

I am:

warrior: 43
thief: 35
elementalist: 26
ranger: 22
mesmer: 20
guardian: 20
necromancer: 16
engineer: 11

- The game is just perfect for me right now.

This game punishes people who 'zerg' or 'farm' the content - speeding by and not talking to NPCs, not stopping to find hidden content, not following conversations of NPCs and not following them when they go off to do things.
- If you just focus level, you can get 100% completion on a zone and still have only seen 10% of its content.
- If you focus on farming a spot or a dungeon, you miss out on its design goal, and get a shallower experience. So complaints from farmers that they are being punished or things are dull should be expected. They're not playing it the way it was meant to be played.

If you're like me and you linger around, run back and forth, click on things, follow moving NPCs, gather EVERYTHING, and do dungeons without even looking at the rewards panel (unless you need it for a screenshot to make a point on a forum post)... then things are perfect.

I'm dedicated now, more so every day.

I do -NOT- see the shrinking int he population some complain about. And my thoughts on that, from a comment I left on a blog this morning:

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My guess is that, having taken a smell the roses approach to leveling, I was not in the zerg pack - I saw huge crowds on launch day a few times, but mostly not. I started with Charr - and the big cats seem the least popular so maybe I missed the zerg even on launch day.

I've always seen a good number of people everywhere I've gone, and still see them. And about the same number of them - everywhere I go.

Across 8 characters, I've yet to go above level 43, but have only two below level 20 (one of them almost).

For me - the crowds today are the same size as always. I can find people pretty quickly when I need to, and have quiet time when I want it.

I suppose had I been speed leveling or single character focusing, I might have been in zerg packs in the past - and so might wonder where they are now... but this seemed like burning the candle too brightly to me, when we started, so I avoided that pace.

I spent the first few days slowing myself down by talking to -EVERY- NPC I met (and as a result, I am #2 on achiev points in my guild, and double the next person down. The guy above me was in closed beta and open beta, so he's got an inside track on efficiency, but I'm closing the gap fast). Mostly because when a zerg pack would do a circuit (or so I read), by standing there talking - I'd end up starting several DEs on my own and doing them with the 3 to 5 people nearby.
(Half the time I see people say "DE X is broken, hasn't started all day, I walk over, talk to an NPC and then do that very event - a lot of them -are- broken but just as many, people never learned how to trigger.)
Maybe concurrency is down - but I just haven't seen it. Curiously I see more people to play with in GW2 than I do right now in WoW:MoP. So if people have left, they didn't go there.

With downscaling, the dungeons will always remain viable. With the farming nerfs - they will remain more engaging for those who just want to play them. It will end up, in time; a bit like it was in City of Heroes until they 'added' farming into that in the last year or so.

But they will need better communication tools for us to find each other - and that is NOT a random dungeon finder that assembles a PUG of hostile players for us. It is a good lookup and invite LFG tool, easy travel INTO the cities, and maybe, just maybe... I can accept a global city channel.

- But only AFTER they get a handle on gold spammers.

Edited by Kichwas, 28 September 2012 - 05:16 PM.


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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:22 PM

View Postsanedude, on 28 September 2012 - 05:02 PM, said:

Well it's been a month since the official release of Guild Wars 2. Usually it's the first month that gives the hint that the game is either successful or not. So I was curious, is anyone having fun? I reached 80 2 weeks ago and continue to play on that character, and still love it. I know many people worry about a lack of "endgame." I am also excited to start up alts and try other professions. What I also want to know is, is there anyone that thinks the game is getting slow? Do you see yourself quitting any time soon? I still see the game as alive and well, haven't noticed a big decrease in population. I see myself continuing the game for months to come, and I definitely will be buying all expansions. I really wish my rl friends would play, but one quit, another has a crap computer, and another is jobless and doesn't have the money.

All in all, the topic of this thread asks, what is your opinion of Guild Wars 2 after a months experience with it. Do you think the community will continue to grow, or will the game start to decline in sales.

I think the game is fantastic, especially for no sub.  I was only 43% complete with the world when I hit 80, probably only 25% with all 3 orr zones, and no gear.  I have since rolled three alts(necro at 36, guardian at 12, warrior at 11), started running dungeons(got my first TA piece the other day), and map completion(started with Orr, completed all zones for nice $$ and loot).  Not to mention the auction house, while it has its issues and in some places is working in the opposite way it should, is fantastic for playing the market.

While I have found one or two nights here and there where I just didnt want to play, overall its fun.  There is a lot of depth to obtaining gear and all at max level, I spent a few days reading up on it.

To answer the question:  Im enjoying it, I'll be playing it pretty regularly until probably christmas/new year...which at that point I hope to have two or three max level, decently geared characters with most world completions.. I'll re-assess the game at that point.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:23 PM

Sometimes I would rather play GW1 if it was still alive (PvP). Some of my GW2 friends are already leveling their third character.. that's crazy imo. I've tried to play on alts but meh.. the areas aren't that fun to complete again (yet). I really like Personal story but the level requirements are slowing progress. :P Oh well, fortunately my guild will start playing PvP soon.

#8 Tregarde

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:26 PM

I'm still having a lot of fun.

And I'm sure I'll have even more fun when more of the bugs get fixed and more features get implemented.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:26 PM

View Postsanedude, on 28 September 2012 - 05:02 PM, said:

or will the game start to decline in sales.

It already has.  Game is discounted in store and online now.

I enjoyed the game for about 3 weeks.  It was fun to see all the new things they did, but in the end, this game was such a huge departure from Guild Wars 1, that I lost interest.  Reminded me a lot of my time playing Aion.  Oh well, not for everyone I suppose, gave me a chance to finish Diablo 3.  That's another game I wished shapped out to be like the original.

Enjoy your time!

#10 chiclet

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:26 PM

What Kichwas said.

I am having a super great time, taking my time, poking about as many places as I can, spreading myself between different characters, tackling crafting in small doses, generally seeing what's going on as I travel about. I'm now comfortable enough with general playstyle to be more proactive with weapon switching and generating combinations, LOOKING for combinations to make during larger battles. I'm starting to recognize the particle effects from other classes and working that into my battle strategy. I haven't run a dungeon yet but I hope to this weekend  since I just geared myself with toughness/vitality armor and power/precision accessories. I'm starting to look at the trading post, trying to figure out when's a good time to buy those fine crafting materials I need. I haven't even managed to touch WvW yet, keep getting distracted!

In other words, travel at turtle pace and having a blast doing it. This game is just perfect for me, quite frankly, there is just so much to do! From my perspective, I'm going to be playing this for as long as it's online, so once the speed-clearing people have gotten bored, we'll be in good shape, in my opinion.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:28 PM

Let me put in this way.  I have never got tire of traditional quests and sometime the grinding ain't bad either, however the way Guild Wars 2 is setup, it put me in a checklist mentally, which make the game absolutely no fun.  I don't know how someone can make questing so boring.  I want a list of objective to do not have to find heart quest and only give you one quest at a time.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:29 PM

I was having fun, but the further I get into it and with subsequent patches, the more buggy the game appears to me.  Past weekend, ran through Lornar's pass and encountered five DEs stuck in the top half.  Considering the fact that my personal story was taking me through that area, it broke immersion and I ended up rolling an alt.

I honestly can't see myself doing this much longer.  I'm already bicurious about pandas and TL2 just came out.  Unless ArenaNet starts investing in some actual post-launch development processes and better turn around on issues, then I will probably stop playing.

GW2 will go down in history as having the best artwork and some innovative ideas, but ultimately killed by its inability to provide basic production services.
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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:39 PM

I doubt there will be a single non-80 that is not enjoying the game.

As for me, not as excited to play like on release but still having fun, doing dungeons and some casual leveling of my alts.

Edited by Shadowrose, 28 September 2012 - 05:40 PM.


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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:46 PM

I'm loving this game, got a level 80 ranger and currently working on an engineer who is level 28.

I could go on all day about how I wish it was more like Guild Wars 1, specifically the amount of skills and builds there were to choose from but I'm not because this game is still unique and I'll be playing it for as long as it exists unless they bring out a Guild Wars 3.

I'll definitely be pre-ordering any expansions, I know Arenanet know what they're doing at the end of the day and I know this game will become what they intended it to be and more to what we expected.

I feel like I'm not seeing as many players as I did before but there are still players, events aren't as crowded as they were before but you just have to shout Event and ping the closest waypoint in map chat and more often than not people come.

Edited by Kirk, 28 September 2012 - 05:46 PM.


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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:51 PM

i dont think the pop has decrease as much as it has stabilized. the initial rush was an unsustainable phenomenon really. currently, we still have 6-10 servers full at peak times, 2 medium and others high. not a bad spot to stabilize at.

im 212 hours in and i feel like ive only scratched the surface. having a blast.

View PostMazingerZ, on 28 September 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

GW2 will go down in history as having the best artwork and some innovative ideas, but ultimately killed by its inability to provide basic production services.

killed? game's going nowhere but up.

Edited by Umie, 28 September 2012 - 05:53 PM.


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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:52 PM

lot o' fun for me

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:55 PM

i demand a fix to my personal story

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:56 PM

Engi - 80
Thief - 80
Warrior - 45
Guardian -22

I rotate them as much as I can, and so far have had a blast. PvP has been a bit of a let down so far, but I love the PvE.

- I want that purple stuff.


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Posted 28 September 2012 - 06:01 PM

Level 80, full exotics, working on map completion, WvWvW every time the queue pops, and working on Legendary.

Still having fun.

I'll take a break when/if I get accepted into Planetside 2 beta, but really, name one better option than GW2 in the MMORPG genre and I'll go ahead and ask what your argument for that is.

Edited by Treble, 28 September 2012 - 06:12 PM.


#20 Bizomb

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 06:01 PM

I am still enjoying the game. I was one that rushed to 80 on my engineer then became bored(due to the class being pigeon holed to grenades and bomb throwing.) So I made a mesmer(new main!) I am playing the game slow and causal as intended, if played this way it shines so well. The bugs in the game seem to be a problem but what game releases perfect... it will eventually come together.

To be a non-sub game it is leaps and bounds better than any in that genre and even sub games. I will be playing this game for a while and buy all the expansions!

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 06:10 PM

Loving every minute of it. =)

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 06:43 PM

I've totally stopped playing. I've already forced myself to do something I really didn't care about, completing maps at 100% (including the Orr ones and I hate that place), just to make the game last a little bit longer. Towards the end when I was trying to reach some vista, for no real reason, I was saying to myself "what the **** am I doing here?? I'm stupid or what??". The problem is with other MMORPGs (including a really lame chinese one) it took me months, years to get to that point, here only 4 weeks... I might come back some day to level an alt. Right now it's way too soon, all maps are too fresh in my memory. Plus besides warrior there's not another class that I really like. I'm going to keep an eye on this game, in case they release something new, but for now it's over.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 06:45 PM

It's nice, but its no realistic MMO replacement. More of a game you get on every now and again.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 06:48 PM

After 2 80's in full exotics, I'm still having fun with the game. The only thing that bothers me are the bugs (broken Dungeon DR, obstruction, broken events). I'm patient enough to wait for more level 80 content and bug fixes though because I understand. More importantly, I'm excited to see what they do with the expansions.

On a side note, of course not everyone who purchased the game will "stick with it." That's the beauty of it, they're welcomed back free of charge. Even if I were to quit tomorrow (which I won't), I still feel as though I got my $60 worth.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 06:49 PM

View PostRukioish, on 28 September 2012 - 06:45 PM, said:

It's nice, but its no realistic MMO replacement. More of a game you get on every now and again.

Most overhype and overrated game.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 06:57 PM

View Postthehotsung, on 28 September 2012 - 05:28 PM, said:

...the way Guild Wars 2 is setup, it put me in a checklist mentally, which make the game absolutely no fun.  I don't know how someone can make questing so boring.  I want a list of objective to do not have to find heart quest and only give you one quest at a time.

bwuh? .. I think my brain broke trying to understand your point of view.

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Anywho, I'm loving the game and will probably not play anything else for the next few months

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 06:58 PM

View PostGrandmaFunk, on 28 September 2012 - 06:57 PM, said:

bwuh? .. I think my brain broke trying to understand your point of view.

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Anywho, I'm loving the game and will probably not play anything else for the next few months

I think my English broke your brain or my bad grammar.  Somethings are hard to explain

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 07:03 PM

View Postthehotsung, on 28 September 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:

Most overhype and overrated game.

well, there is just a huge lack of end game... Anet wants you to motivate ourselves rather than have a clear cut goal. Sadly, because of lack of a true end game, (and the many ways of getting top tier gear) It's hard to really show off your achievements. When I sit in town, I feel like just another random player.

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 07:05 PM

View PostGrandmaFunk, on 28 September 2012 - 06:57 PM, said:

bwuh? .. I think my brain broke trying to understand your point of view.

I think he wants his carrot to have a much more obvious string.  I think he hates trying to make sure he's not missing a heart somewhere as he stumbles through the world. WoW used to have the most disjointed questing in Vanilla, mind you.  Cataclysm turned it into a rails game, practically, but back in the day... There were people you'd find for no reason other than you stumbled upon them.  Then they'd ask you to escort them through a village of elite worgen and randomly run up and punch one in the nose to keep things interesting.
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Posted 28 September 2012 - 07:09 PM

I have over 300 hours played, still love it. The population is more spread out which I kind of prefer at the moment. We shall see how it works out when the populations thins even more (and it will, just natural). Will I continue to play? Absolutely, even with all of the bugs.




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