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#1 JasmineMcCoy

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 06:29 PM

I have read some posts which imply you can get different order's armor by purchasing them on a different char, putting them in the bank and then using trasmutation stones. Can somebody please confirm that it indeed works and explain how to exactly do it (or point me to the appropriate thread if it has been described before)? Does it also work with armor/weapons bought for karma?

#2 lmaonade

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 06:35 PM

I have seen no posts describing it explicitly, but people have said that you can transmute order armor onto a lower piece of equipment then transfer it over to another character

though I don't know how that would work since I thought transmuting soulbound equipment (haven't transmuted anything in a while), and no one answered the question when asked.

If it's true that transmuting equipment no longer soulbinds equipment then I'd say it would work with karma stuff too

Edited by lmaonade, 01 October 2012 - 06:35 PM.


#3 Korlic

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 06:39 PM

Im still fuzzy on how transmutation works. I transmuted my lvl 70ish karma armor with the stats of a rare better armor piece and it was no longer soul bound but obviously the skin stuck. I am really interested in if this is possible at all because I would really like to get the Vigil helmet onto my warrior who is part of the priory.

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#4 Crantson

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 07:09 PM

Basically you have to transmute twice to do this.  First, obtain the item on one character.  On that character transmute the skin to another item (i do not know if it has to be a lower quality for this to work but, since you are going to be trashing the new stats anyway, it is best to use a cheap item.)  The resulting transmuted item will be soulbound but CAN traded to another character through the bank so place the item in the bank and withdraw it using the character you want to give the skin to.  You can now transmute again on the 2nd character and he can wear or use it.  Yes it works with karma items also as well as guild armor.

I assume they allowed this so that we can retain skins we like when deleting characters they were originally soulbound to anhd so that we can obtain armors from other orders as they promised us we would be able to.

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 08:07 PM

View PostCrantson, on 01 October 2012 - 07:09 PM, said:

Basically you have to transmute twice to do this.  First, obtain the item on one character.  On that character transmute the skin to another item (i do not know if it has to be a lower quality for this to work but, since you are going to be trashing the new stats anyway, it is best to use a cheap item.)  The resulting transmuted item will be soulbound but CAN traded to another character through the bank so place the item in the bank and withdraw it using the character you want to give the skin to.  You can now transmute again on the 2nd character and he can wear or use it.  Yes it works with karma items also as well as guild armor.

I assume they allowed this so that we can retain skins we like when deleting characters they were originally soulbound to anhd so that we can obtain armors from other orders as they promised us we would be able to.

Thanks. I wonder why some items can be traded using the bank even though soulbond and others can't. Does it depend if the item you are putting the skin on was originally not soulbond, so that you can only pass between chars skins but not soulbond on acquire stats?

Edit: tested it on a karma armor piece and apparently soulbound+white not bound items make a "soulbond" one which acts as if it was account bound. I guess the text is bugged. It's also possible the item itself is bugged instead but that seems less likely, since this would explain why we are allowed to purchase items unusable by our profession in the first place.

Edited by JasmineMcCoy, 01 October 2012 - 09:46 PM.


#6 armrule

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Posted 02 October 2012 - 08:47 AM

I think the latest patch (oct 1) fixed this :(

I've tried with Order of Whisper medium coat (which i accidentally double click earlier). It remains soulbound to my warrior and CANNOT be traded through the bank to another character from the same account. Even tried double transmute.

- Transmuted cultural armor now prevents opposing races from equipping it.

Edited by armrule, 02 October 2012 - 08:48 AM.


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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:33 AM

View Postarmrule, on 02 October 2012 - 08:47 AM, said:

I think the latest patch (oct 1) fixed this :(

I've tried with Order of Whisper medium coat (which i accidentally double click earlier). It remains soulbound to my warrior and CANNOT be traded through the bank to another character from the same account. Even tried double transmute.

- Transmuted cultural armor now prevents opposing races from equipping it.

today (9th of oktober 2012) i did what Crantson said

for me it worked

bought a random piece from the armor vendor in LA (which isnt souldbound on purchase) and eqquiped the order of whispers look on it

it did say it was soulbound but i could drag it to my other characters inventory and transmutate it again on hes exotic gear


Added:

ok i can even equip it before the last transmutation

so the soulbound msg is completely falls i gues

Edited by _Arth_, 09 October 2012 - 11:46 AM.


#8 Eon Lilu

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 02:19 PM

Im guna get my alt into the priory now and do this before they patch and nerf it.

#9 Crantson

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 05:25 PM

View PostEon Lilu, on 09 October 2012 - 02:19 PM, said:

Im guna get my alt into the priory now and do this before they patch and nerf it.

I don't think they are going to nerf this since they specifically made it so it would not work on cultural armors in the last patch.  Since they only nerfed cultural it kind of implies that they didn't mind the other uses that were being made of this method.

View Post_Arth_, on 09 October 2012 - 11:33 AM, said:

today (9th of oktober 2012) i did what Crantson said

ok i can even equip it before the last transmutation

so the soulbound msg is completely falls i gues

Yeah you don't have to transmute the second time if you used an item with the stats you wanted in the first transmutation.

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One thing I have noticed since the last patch is that every once in a while you get a piece of armor that just won't accept a transmutation.  I have no idea what causes this.  I thought maybe it was armor from vendors but then it happened with a couple of pieces from the TP.  It's not a case of starter armor not transmuting either as last time it happened the pants and shoes transmuted onto starter armor fine but the coat didn't.   In any case, I just bought a second cheap coat from the TP, tried again, and it worked. So if, for some reason, the tranmutation fails, don't give up.  Just try it with another cheap armor piece.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 05:30 PM

View PostCrantson, on 09 October 2012 - 05:25 PM, said:

I don't think they are going to nerf this since they specifically made it so it would not work on cultural armors in the last patch.  Since they only nerfed cultural it kind of implies that they didn't mind the other uses that were being made of this method.


Yeah you don't have to transmute the second time if you used an item with the stats you wanted in the first transmutation.

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One thing I have noticed since the last patch is that every once in a while you get a piece of armor that just won't accept a transmutation.  I have no idea what causes this.  I thought maybe it was armor from vendors but then it happened with a couple of pieces from the TP.  It's not a case of starter armor not transmuting either as last time it happened the pants and shoes transmuted onto starter armor fine but the coat didn't.   In any case, I just bought a second cheap coat from the TP, tried again, and it worked. So if, for some reason, the tranmutation fails, don't give up.  Just try it with another cheap armor piece.

Happened to me. Unequipping the item fixed it. If you didn't have either equipped, log and restart.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 07:36 PM

I found out the Order of Whisper's armor set is by far the best looking for a human Thief. I also just found out it's only possible to get this armor, when you have chosen to follow their story-line. But I have already (randomly) chosen for the Vigil, without knowing about all this.

Am I now screwed, or is this transmuting really possible? And if so, how does it work?

Thanks in advance.


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#12 Crantson

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 09:43 PM

If all you want is the looks and not the stats then, yes, you can use a character that has joined the whispers to buy and transmute the armor and then trade it through the bank to the desired character.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:03 PM

I ran into a problem when I transmuted medium vigil leggings on my warrior to give to my thief.   For some reason after the initial transmute onto a low armor my thief could not take it out of the account.  I had to do another transmute using the 1-79 stones to get it working.   So if you transmuted using the level 80 stones and it didn't seem to work, try it again using the 1-79.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 12:30 AM

View PostCrantson, on 09 October 2012 - 09:43 PM, said:

If all you want is the looks and not the stats then, yes, you can use a character that has joined the whispers to buy and transmute the armor and then trade it through the bank to the desired character.
Yeah, i'm pretty much only interrested in the looks. And btw is this supposed to be possible, or is it a glitch?

#15 Crantson

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 02:35 AM

View PostTaiko, on 10 October 2012 - 12:30 AM, said:

Yeah, i'm pretty much only interrested in the looks. And btw is this supposed to be possible, or is it a glitch?

They removed the ability for this to work with the cultural armors so they are obviously aware of this mechanism.  So if it is a glitch, it is one they intentionally chose to leave in the game.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 03:01 PM

Would it perhaps also work, if you pass it on to other players?

#17 Crantson

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 04:25 PM

View PostTaiko, on 10 October 2012 - 03:01 PM, said:

Would it perhaps also work, if you pass it on to other players?
nope - I think that is reason it is still listed as "souldbound" after transmutation.  You can only trade the transmuted item to another char on your accoun through the bank.  You can not mail it to anyone else or offer it on tp.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 06:21 PM

View PostCrantson, on 10 October 2012 - 04:25 PM, said:

nope - I think that is reason it is still listed as "souldbound" after transmutation.  You can only trade the transmuted item to another char on your accoun through the bank.  You can not mail it to anyone else or offer it on tp.
Alright then. Thanks for your response. I got my ranger to choose for the Order of Whisper's today, so I suppose my Thief will have the desired armor within a few days! :D

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 09:14 AM

View Postarmrule, on 02 October 2012 - 08:47 AM, said:

I think the latest patch (oct 1) fixed this :(

I've tried with Order of Whisper medium coat (which i accidentally double click earlier). It remains soulbound to my warrior and CANNOT be traded through the bank to another character from the same account. Even tried double transmute.

- Transmuted cultural armor now prevents opposing races from equipping it.


I retried this today.

It works on WHITES. I did on boe GREENS in earlier attempts. It's sad to find out after i had level another norn warrior to lvl 80 just for the Vigil Helm. :(

Edited by armrule, 13 October 2012 - 09:14 AM.


#20 Cpt Nemo Kolkozy

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 01:30 AM

Hi,
this is no more possible, yes ?
I tried it today with karma armor without luck.
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Posted 25 December 2012 - 01:50 PM

Does this still work with Order armor? I did it with a karma 'Pirate Crook' a few months ago and worked fine.

#22 Crantson

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 02:49 PM

I did this about 3 days ago with priory armor so, unless they changed it very recently, yes, it still works.

just make sure the armor you transmute onto does not say "soulbound on use" or it will soul bind instead of account bind

Edited by Crantson, 25 December 2012 - 02:49 PM.





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