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#241 CobraStrike

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Posted 18 January 2013 - 11:51 PM

First of all, Strife.. AWESOME build and a very descriptive guide. Loving your videos and I'm currently building toward this (still pre-60, so no AH yet!).

My question is... How would alter this build to fit more of WvW, or is it good as is?

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 04:56 PM

View PostCobraStrike, on 18 January 2013 - 11:51 PM, said:

First of all, Strife.. AWESOME build and a very descriptive guide. Loving your videos and I'm currently building toward this (still pre-60, so no AH yet!).

My question is... How would alter this build to fit more of WvW, or is it good as is?

Go back to PVT gear instead of berserker/crit for WvW, and you'll probably learn which utilities to use since you don't really use 3 shouts, like Judges Intervention, reflects, etc. depending on what you're doing is good.

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Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:42 PM

can you explain how you get 1O3 crit damage, cause i really dont know where you get that amount.

Thx :)

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 01:13 AM

View PostStrife025, on 13 January 2013 - 05:51 PM, said:

Yea power actually has a pretty big impact.

I'm actually in the process of switching out my power/tough/crit % rings to berserker ascended. Have 1 of the 2 so far.

I didn't really like how much it dropped my crit chance.

I usually shoot for around 3k armor for my build though, when I get my other berserker ascended ring I'll be in the 2900 so I'll probably switch one of my armor pieces to knights since ascended gear has such good ratios for crit %.

Have you thought about switching out Purity for Strength in Numbers?  That's an extra 70 toughness right there, and will allow you to avoid swapping poor ratio slots from berserker's to knights.  I've found purity to be unnecessary when running Soldier runes and 2 shouts.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:34 AM

Been reading the forums a while, signed up just for this thread.

Thanks strife for outlining your build so well and for posting so many YT dungeon videoes which explain your thinking in certain situations.

I'm running a similar build based on yours (enjoying it as well).

One question for you. Based on your fractal videos you're often running a consecration (Wall of reflection, Spirit shield  & sometimes both). Somtimes this only leaves 1 shout on the skill bar. Do you think now that you're getting more into fractals/consecrations you would change rune of the soldier for anything else ? Or (possibly overkill) alternatively would you have a separate set of gear to use for switching to when used in conjunction with 2 x consecrations ?

Also keep posting videos on your channel they are good.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 02:35 PM

View PostStrife025, on 08 October 2012 - 11:42 PM, said:


Gear:
Helm, Chest, and Legs are now Knights stats (power/prec/tough).
Shoulder, Hands, Feet are now Berserker stats (power/prec/crit dmg)
I replaced the jewels in my knights jewelery with exquisite ruby jewels.
I am switching my ascended gear with power/tough/crit damage to berserker stats instead because I don't like the crit chance loss. You can switch your berserker armor to knights to still hit the 3k armor mark since Ascended gear has the best crit damage ratios besides exquisite jewels anyways, per below:
  • 5 stat points - upgrade slot of trinkets and backpack
  • 7 points - Ascended Back Piece
  • 8.5 stat points - Ascended Rings
  • 10 stat points- traits (not an equipment, but listed for comparison)
  • 12 stat points - glove, shoulder and boots
  • 12.8 stat points - 1H weapons and amulet
  • 13.33 stat points - Earring
  • 14 stat points - Backpack (rare version from guild armorsmith)
  • 14.22 stat points - 2H weapons
  • 14.4 stat points - Coat
  • 16 stat points - Ring, helm and legging

The ascended gear is situational, you could go something like berserker for ~10% crit chance. Or if you don't have ascended, I would use knights with ruby jewels for my rings/back.



Please explain what stat points you are referring too in the above section.  I am sorry but I don't follow this section as to what it means.

Your guides are a huge help and well done.  Thanks for work on these.

#247 Elysen

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 05:55 PM

View Postproxykn, on 21 January 2013 - 09:42 PM, said:

can you explain how you get 1O3 crit damage, cause i really dont know where you get that amount.

Thx :)

Ascended rings used to be bugged and give ... I believe 23% crit? It's fixed now.

#248 Strife025

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:13 PM

View Postbeadnbutter32, on 22 January 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

Please explain what stat points you are referring too in the above section.  I am sorry but I don't follow this section as to what it means.

Your guides are a huge help and well done.  Thanks for work on these.

It is the stat amounts you give up for 1% worth of crit damage.

So the lower the better, Exquisite ruby jewels you only give up 5 stat points in exchange for 1% crit damage, where you give up 16 stat points per 1% crit damage for a helm for instance.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:08 PM

View PostXephenon, on 22 January 2013 - 05:55 PM, said:

Ascended rings used to be bugged and give ... I believe 23% crit? It's fixed now.

so his crit damage should be less then now ?

if so how much would it be then cause i did some math. i got same armor, knight with the soldier rune's same earrings and amulet (emerald with ruby jewels in it) the rings i now wear are power/perci/tough (jewels in it also) and i'm going for the berserker ascended rings and back. now without the ascended gear i have 48% crit damage and from the ascended gear i would get like 21% if i'm right.
that would give me in total of 69% crit damage then.

also with all my armor knight and soldier rune and the berserker rings and back you get 2994 armor so not 3K could be i'm wrong not sure ^^

so anyone that can confirm this!? :D

#250 Balthor

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 04:35 AM

Fantastic guide, and the videos are also immensely useful. Your guides have been incredibly useful for newer dungeon runners.

On that note, what are recommendations for leveling a guardian through dungeons? At around level 40-50 (running mainly AC and CM) are there any important traits or gear one should look for?

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 07:55 PM

View PostQuackzMcDuck, on 09 October 2012 - 02:23 AM, said:

If you don't mind me asking what was your reason for hating charr? I was thinking of making a charr guardian because I see way to many human,norn, and asura.

Is the reason you rerolled from charr purely your opinion or is there really something wrong with them?

I don't know if I want to take the 'hipster' route and roll a norn/human

Being a hipster would be rolling a Charr because the majority do not.  Like you.  I think you deserve a whole new sub-classification though:  The Hipstard.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 11:27 AM

i read in another thread, that the 6th bonus is currently buged.

View PostThaddeuz, on 29 January 2013 - 08:13 PM, said:

The 6th bonus of the Rune of Soldier is currently bug. Exept if they fixed it in the path of yesterday, you shouldn't be using that rune. But i agree, Boons Duration Runes are not the best choice in my opinion for this build. I prefer Ruby Orb for the maximum Offensive stats.

can anyone who runs with strifes build confirm this? i would like to do some fractals tonight and if there is a problem, our guild can plan accordingly

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 01:10 PM

Sorry for my noob question. Which build should I go with if I just started playing with guardian? I noticed you said your updated build is for dungeons and fractals mainly. Will it be good for soloing until I reach lvl 80?

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 01:58 PM

View PostShadowresli, on 30 January 2013 - 11:27 AM, said:

i read in another thread, that the 6th bonus is currently buged.

can anyone who runs with strifes build confirm this? i would like to do some fractals tonight and if there is a problem, our guild can plan accordingly

Oh damn sorry. This was my post and i made a mistake. I was talking about the Rune of Strength, and not the Rune of the Soldier. My bad really.

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 02:12 PM

View PostThaddeuz, on 30 January 2013 - 01:58 PM, said:

Oh damn sorry. This was my post and i made a mistake. I was talking about the Rune of Strength, and not the Rune of the Soldier. My bad really.

no problem

thanks for the clarification

forgot the first rule of the hitchhiker, DON'T PANIC

Edited by Shadowresli, 30 January 2013 - 03:56 PM.


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Posted 31 January 2013 - 04:43 PM

View PostHollowDean, on 30 January 2013 - 01:10 PM, said:

Sorry for my noob question. Which build should I go with if I just started playing with guardian? I noticed you said your updated build is for dungeons and fractals mainly. Will it be good for soloing until I reach lvl 80?

It really depends on what level you are currently, doesn't it?  We can't tell you what traits to get if you don't have the points to get them.

For what it's worth, pretty much any build can solo.  You don't really need a hard-and-fast build until you start running dungeons regularly.

Edited by GuanglaiKangyi, 31 January 2013 - 04:45 PM.


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Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:59 AM

Very cool build and nice video explanation.   Great tips for guardian players.   Thanks for posting it!

By the Gods, that MF gear was awesome :)

Edited by Doctor Overlord, 02 February 2013 - 05:04 AM.


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Posted 02 February 2013 - 09:58 AM

hi strife, im also running this build and im loving it, thank you for sharing!

with the new ascended amulets, will you change it for ascended berserker or stay with ascended knights?

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:07 PM

View Postrnbounty, on 02 February 2013 - 09:58 AM, said:

hi strife, im also running this build and im loving it, thank you for sharing!

with the new ascended amulets, will you change it for ascended berserker or stay with ascended knights?

Berserker.

Basically planning on going all berserker ascended gear, still the knights earrings with ruby jewels, and then switching to full knights armor.

Ascended gear has the best crit % ratios so it's good to keep those berserker if you're going a balanced build between knights and zerker. Basically shooting for ~3k armor to hold agro for the warriors and mesmers which are full dps in my parties and then going for dps gear once you hit that.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 06:00 PM

View PostStrife025, on 02 February 2013 - 04:07 PM, said:

Berserker.

Basically planning on going all berserker ascended gear, still the knights earrings with ruby jewels, and then switching to full knights armor.

Ascended gear has the best crit % ratios so it's good to keep those berserker if you're going a balanced build between knights and zerker. Basically shooting for ~3k armor to hold agro for the warriors and mesmers which are full dps in my parties and then going for dps gear once you hit that.

Hello Strife.  Just a quick question, seems like your specific setup with armor/accessories is to take advantage of the group you run with.  Would you recommend the same choice of Knights/Emerald/Beserker for an all-around general setup for PUGS in dungeons/fractals?

Right now I have full Knights armor with Sup Soldier runes, but a mix of accessories.  I don't have access to ascended gear yet, so deciding what to invest in.  Should I go:

Earrings: Emerald/Ruby
Amulet: Beserker/Ruby
Rings: Beserker/Ruby
Backpack: Beserker/Ruby

Thanks

Edited by Erighan, 02 February 2013 - 06:10 PM.


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Posted 02 February 2013 - 07:57 PM

5 (Upgrade Slot of Trinkets and Backpiece)
7 (Ascended Backpiece)   
8.5 (Ascended Ring)
9.44 (Ascended Amulet)
12 (Shoulder, Hands, Foot)
12.8 (1H Weapons and Amulet)
13.33 (Earring)
14 (Rare Backpiece)
14.22 (2H weapons)
14.4 (Chest)
16 (Ring, Head, Leg)

Basically add as much crit damage/precision/power while keeping 2.9K-3K Armor and 17K-18K Health.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 08:59 PM

View PostErighan, on 02 February 2013 - 06:00 PM, said:

Hello Strife.  Just a quick question, seems like your specific setup with armor/accessories is to take advantage of the group you run with.  Would you recommend the same choice of Knights/Emerald/Beserker for an all-around general setup for PUGS in dungeons/fractals?

Right now I have full Knights armor with Sup Soldier runes, but a mix of accessories.  I don't have access to ascended gear yet, so deciding what to invest in.  Should I go:

Earrings: Emerald/Ruby
Amulet: Beserker/Ruby
Rings: Beserker/Ruby
Backpack: Beserker/Ruby

Thanks

Ring has the worst ratio out of all gear so I would never take that berserker. As far as pugs vs organized, it just depends on your personal preference and what you can get away with.

I slowly started moving to more berserker because that's what I was comfortable with for my groups. If you need more survivability then take more knights, using pieces that have the worst ratios first.

There's not a "magic" number, I just used 3k because that's about what you get if you take knights armor and ascended jewelery (and the ruby jewels in your earrings) which has been a good balance for keeping agro and still doing decent dps.

Edited by Strife025, 02 February 2013 - 08:59 PM.


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Posted 02 February 2013 - 09:21 PM

View PostStrife025, on 02 February 2013 - 08:59 PM, said:

Ring has the worst ratio out of all gear so I would never take that berserker. As far as pugs vs organized, it just depends on your personal preference and what you can get away with.

I slowly started moving to more berserker because that's what I was comfortable with for my groups. If you need more survivability then take more knights, using pieces that have the worst ratios first.

There's not a "magic" number, I just used 3k because that's about what you get if you take knights armor and ascended jewelery (and the ruby jewels in your earrings) which has been a good balance for keeping agro and still doing decent dps.

I'm not familar with the worst/best ratios for a given piece.  What would you recommend for exotic rings?  Thanks

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 09:43 PM

View PostErighan, on 02 February 2013 - 09:21 PM, said:

I'm not familar with the worst/best ratios for a given piece.  What would you recommend for exotic rings?  Thanks

The ratios are in my guide and also what Puandro posted above. So for ring you would want knights + ruby jewels.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 09:15 AM

View PostStrife025, on 02 February 2013 - 04:07 PM, said:

Berserker.

Basically planning on going all berserker ascended gear, still the knights earrings with ruby jewels, and then switching to full knights armor.

Ascended gear has the best crit % ratios so it's good to keep those berserker if you're going a balanced build between knights and zerker. Basically shooting for ~3k armor to hold agro for the warriors and mesmers which are full dps in my parties and then going for dps gear once you hit that.

to get things straight, your equip would look like this:

armor: all full knights
earrings: knights/ruby
rings: ascended berserker
amulet: ascended berserker
back: ascended berserker
weapon: berserker

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 09:25 AM

Great guide. You've made me want to play my Guardian again.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 04:34 PM

View Postrnbounty, on 03 February 2013 - 09:15 AM, said:

to get things straight, your equip would look like this:

armor: all full knights
earrings: knights/ruby
rings: ascended berserker
amulet: ascended berserker
back: ascended berserker
weapon: berserker

Correct

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 10:06 AM

Which runes will you be using then?

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 07:19 PM

View Postzosek, on 04 February 2013 - 10:06 AM, said:

Which runes will you be using then?

Same, soldier is too good in an organized group and pretty much trumps everything else.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 08:22 PM

Strife, are you 100% sure of the maths behind those ratios? I did the same here but came up with different numbers. Can you (or some other reader who got the same numbers) walk me through the rationale? Thanks.




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