Posted 27 November 2010 - 04:12 PM
It just occurred to me that the usual argument for why we were able to defeat Abaddon may no longer be viable (i.e. we had the blessing of the Gods, he was in chains) considering our battle with Dhuum. Yes, we had assistance from the Reapers, but was Dhuum still weakened? After all, the reason we had to fight him was because he grew powerful enough to break free of his imprisonment, so it seems more likely that we were facing him at moderate power and unbound.
I doubt he was at his full potential, as he had only very recently broken free when we come on to the scene, but it seems likely that he was almost certainly at a more powerful state than Abaddon. And again, he was unchained.
So, without the blessing of the Gods, we and the Reapers were able to reimprison a god. Does that indicate the difference between having a blessing and not having it is an inability to destroy a god? I don't think this situation is good material for indicating yea or nay on that, considering our intent was not to destroy Dhuum, only to contain him again. However, we were able to weaken a god to the point of imprisonment, that was one of our main roles in that fight when you review it, which was the very same point the gods themselves were able to bring Abaddon down to.
The real question must be, how much of a role did the Reapers play in our fight, and if we had weakened Dhuum alone, would we have been able to figure out how to imprison him? And we must also ask, did the gods imprison Abaddon alone, did Grenth imprison Dhuum alone? A few of the descriptions in the Realm of Torment suggest the gods created the Gates as locks on Abaddon, as well as creating the Shadow Nexus, but there's yet to be anything we've discovered in-game that they've actually created on their own. Fashioned or shaped from something else into what they want, yes, but that's essentially the same process as any mortal goes through when making a device or tool.
Does our fight with Dhuum prove or disprove the validity of the claim that the blessing of the Gods assisted us in our battle with Abaddon, by permitting us to destroy him instead of reimprisoning him?
Could we have imprisoned Dhuum on our own, and how much of a role did the Reapers really play in that fight?
Did the Gods have assistance in imprisoning Abaddon?
Did Grenth have assistance in imprisoning Dhuum?