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[unyilwang]

My name is Unyil, and i am assigned with my friends to find a new home for Pro

(a). everytime wvw reset, i always spend my time in LA, just see the crowd. the last 2 weeks, it is pretty dead there. no overflow in LA, outman buff directly after server reset
this indicate - server is dying.
We dont have issue if people still here, and still have spirit to fight. but it seem, only few guilds/people that still have the spirit.
we hate to leave those people, but we have to be realistic. we need to be competitive

( Loyalty to server is important, but it is more important loyalty to our members
During the vote, 100% of our pvp raider, choose to MOVE. so we decided, we have to find a new home

--- Since our knowledge is limited, so we decide to post here. kindly help if you guys know which server may suitable for us, thks in advance ---

(1) We dont want to move to T1 server. (JQ, SBI, IOJ and BG)
(2) We want to move to server who we can contribute. those 4 servers dont need our help. they already super power =D
(3) We want server that need support on GMT+7
(4) We want server who has loyal supported. We dont want to keep on moving, we hope this movement is our last movement. we want to settle, help, contribute and support the server to move

At this moment, we are looking into NSP, Darkhaven, FA, SOR and TC
We are sending our scouts there

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And now who we are

Pro baddies is a community - almost 500 members, we are not hardcore wvw, most are friends that have thru games by games together. but we do have some hardcore wvw players

We are coming from Lotro (Celestial Order), Warhammer (Orde Baru - we are rank 2 PVP in ironclaw server and myself is server first 40 DOK and also rank1 PVP ranking DOK before i retire, we also play WOW (rotolatoz - server saurfang, rank 1 10 pve progression)

We are not the best, we are still on learning curve. But we do have dedication and willing to learn and work with others. you can assign one border to us, and we will defend it during our primetime, GMT+7

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Thanks for all your time and help

sorry for my grammar, english is not my main language =D

Have a nice weekend

Edited by unyilwang, 20 October 2012 - 12:43 PM.

[xcalamity]

, CD/FA/TCthey could use some more asians

Edited by xcalamity, 20 October 2012 - 01:03 PM.

[Dethwar80]

Top servers are:

JQ
SBI
IOJ
BG
SOS - they had decent amount of Oceanic/Asian Presence they might still need one more.

The above servers seem to be all done and look to be quite even in power.  Quite a bit of dropoff in power after that.  So the next up and coming servers: Sanctum of Rall, Tarnished Coast,and Fort Aspenwood are lining up for that 6th spot.  Crystal Desert looks to be spiraling out of control along with ET and HOD.  So I guess - do you homework between between SoR, TC, and FA.  Hopefully some coordination with whatever is remaining of ET, HOD, and CD and coordinate a move to round out the top 6.

Edited by Dethwar80, 20 October 2012 - 01:22 PM.

[Tarkus]

While it is pretty disappointing that ET is dying as a competitive WvW server, moving to CD or TC would be a good choice for your own enjoyment as well as possibly being an asset to the server. Regardless, I'm sure that Anoobisha and Pro will continue their badassery to whatever server you guys join.

Good luck, and I hope to see you guys soon

[areainvalid]

Recommending CD!
Also recommending Yak's Bend.

[xcalamity]

Dethwar80, on 20 October 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:

JQ
SBI
IOJ
BG
SOS - they had decent amount of Oceanic/Asian Presence they might still need one more.

fixed that for you

[Evoex_LotD]

Having just played against FA/TC I will recommend either without a doubt. The players on those servers know how to bring it.

We enjoyed playing with you guys on ET, best of luck wherever you end up.

Edited by Evoex_LotD, 20 October 2012 - 01:20 PM.

[Dethwar80]

xcalamity, on 20 October 2012 - 01:19 PM, said:

fixed that for you

Thnx. I edited my post.

[Nymaen]

Good luck wherever you guys go. It was fun sharing the battlefield with Pro.

[Laylyn]

This was the latest posting for balancing I did.   SOS's NA gaps are more full than the last posting.

/salute

Laylyn, on 17 October 2012 - 08:30 PM, said:

This is my current server intelligence on how the NA GW2 servers are matching up as of October 17, 2012.  It is not going to be up to par with what servers key members know about themselves.  However, most servers will try to deny or exaggerate this actively trying to bend the competitive curve.

Right now, as the NA bracket, we should go from 4 completely static servers to 5 dynamic rotating servers within the next two weeks.  The end goal is 6-9 dynamic Tier 1-3 servers.  After the first 5, the next priority server should be FA or CD depending on who really wants it.  

Of those servers currently in T 1-3, TC is currently hesitant due to personality matches and how the server wants its community to be.  It will take far longer for them to fit that than a shake and bake reinforcement.  I can only do damage to the community by sending people there that aren't a match for the server's personality.  

HoD and ET remain Dark Horses with the recent shake up and will hopefully recover soon.  I have got no ground intelligence on either due to the flux and there are no fast fixes until the dust settles.  I need stability to properly stack them and points of contact.

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Current number spreads with oceanic, suggest the following servers are viable with that time zone currently:

1. JQ (personal unknowns and influx)
2. SBI
3. IOJ
4. BG  (ELTE, TRF, DIE, some Urge)
5. SOS

This is the single hardest time zone for us to fill for anyone.  We are working to even it, but the game is generally boring for the players here and there will be no increase, until the game gets better for them than Pvdoor.  GW2 may lose them all otherwise.  

Due to server adjustments in tiers, this will not be completely fixed in less than 2 weeks.  (T1 is fully fixed next week with JQ vs. SBI vs. IOJ).
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Current spreads with Asian time zone guilds

1. JQ (personal unknowns and influx)
2. SBI (centered on WM)
3. IOJ (centered on ND)
4. BG (currently centered on Urge [which is more oceanic time zone])
5. SOS?

Asian populations may see to themselves shortly, with official opening in Mainland China and South Korea.  That's for every server on the NA and EU brackets.  If this hits WOW percentages, they may even outnumber the rest of the current non Asian players combined.
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Current spread with EU guilds

1. JQ (personal unknowns and influx)
2. BG (DEYS alliance and GIN)
3. IOJ (centered on VoTF)

Current EU re-enforcement priority is going to have to be:

1. SBI - none to speak of and SBI is getting hammered in T1

2. SOS - none known to speak of, but SOS has time in current T4 status

3. IOJ - already has some with VoTF, but is rapidly heading to T1 status

EU brackets play at a much higher percentage than NA players.  This may be the biggest influx and potentially might reinforce every NA server.  In the meantime, the current best hope for balance is the former contacts of EU players here.  

Those contacts may be sick of worse queue times than the NA bracket has ever seen in its primetime.  Due to server adjustments in tiers, this issue will not be fixed for all 5 servers in less than 2 weeks.  It should be fixed for T1 next week however (JQ vs IOJ).
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NA coverage:  There is still a need for some on SBI (T1, number2) and SOS (T4, number1).  With volunteers, these issues can literally be solved in less time than it takes to make a pot of coffee.  

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Reinforcement for the NA brackets look like this for the first 1-5 servers:

(1.) JQ (T1, number1) and (4). BG (T3, number1) should currently be covered.  BG's coverage is actually far less than advertised and we are in danger of losing current gains due to IOJ's 24/7 propaganda and hometown silliness from BG locals that really don't realize most of the guilds they originally fought alongside in Tier 1 have left the server or the game.

(3.) IOJ (T2 number 1) needs EU reinforcement only.  The rest of IOJ actually has coverage and received some TA support themselves.  That is despite IOJ's own endless propaganda that is becoming extremely destructive to everyone's efforts to balance the top tiers as a whole.  

(2.) SBI (T1, number 2) needs EU, possible some oceanic (may be covered by recent former TA transfers) and a small increase in NA (they have some gaps over the week).  That they could have any coverage holes at all as a T1 server.  This should shock everyone and make it clear how little research most transfers are actually doing.

(5.) SOS (T4, number 1) needs NA and EU.  The status of their Asian coverage is unknown.  Recent former TA reinforcements and the gain of TSYM from DB should put this server on the fast path.  Right now, we have to make the most of those gains and cover their holes to cement SOS as dynamic server number 5.

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That's the 5 most promising dynamic servers above.  The goal is still 6-9 dynamic servers.  Thus, here are the likely next 1-4 servers.

Up and coming:  CD and FA  (PTX formerly of AA on NSP.  Former TA guilds Unlimited and SOA)  Both need coverage, but we have to get the other 5 servers up first.  There has to be a consistent EU and Oceanic game to attract more players from those regions to play GW2 in the NA bracket.  

Darkhorses: Remnants on HoD (T1) and ET (T2), we will need realistic numbers, stability, and a community center to get them what they need to remerge.  This should still be doable for both servers.

Up and coming, but will do it on their own time is TC.  Again, just sending people there will screw up what they like about their own community.

A server that actually respectfully declined any reinforcement as not to ruin community vibe: Yak's Bend

The last NA server currently known to be a possible dark horse is Maguuma due to Goon Squad's presence.  That is, if it amuses them to fully engage.  Right now, my gut tells me that they are just playing for fun.


/salute

[Omnirai]

Hate to be advertising my own server, but TC fills all your requirements.

The Asian/Oceanic prime is our weak spot, we are solidly top of the "mid-tier" and I would say fairly skilled but lack the coverage to compete with the top tiers, no queues at all during your play time (I would know, I'm Asian), and finally TC might just have one of the most stable cores out there. We've dished out the hurt in the past, we've been destroyed by higher level servers the past 2 weeks, but we've never given up or god forbid transferred off the server. TC is full of positives and I can guarantee you will feel welcomed and appreciated there.

[Laylyn]

Omnirai, on 20 October 2012 - 01:32 PM, said:

Hate to be advertising my own server, but TC fills all your requirements.

The Asian/Oceanic prime is our weak spot, we are solidly top of the "mid-tier" and I would say fairly skilled but lack the coverage to compete with the top tiers, no queues at all during your play time (I would know, I'm Asian), and finally TC might just have one of the most stable cores out there. We've dished out the hurt in the past, we've been destroyed by higher level servers the past 2 weeks, but we've never given up or god forbid transferred off the server. TC is full of positives and I can guarantee you will feel welcomed and appreciated there.

TC has indicated since that first post I made that they were far more willing to take transfers.   They have a very solid NA crew.


/salute

[Azure Skye]

Dragonbrand can always use new blood in our WvW. It seem that people seem to miss it or overlook it. >.>

[Babui]

It was great to have played with you PRO. Hope to meet you guys again in the battlefield.

edited coz i rtard durrr

Edited by Babui, 20 October 2012 - 01:42 PM.

[areainvalid]

Azure Skye, on 20 October 2012 - 01:35 PM, said:

Dragonbrand can always use new blood in our WvW. It seem that people seem to miss it or overlook it. >.>

I was under the impression that DB (the ones still there) was more than content with being in a tier that didnt require offpeak night crews to win their matchups. Because when you receive a large night force, you're generally bound to win your matchups and go up a bracket or two only to find out its now a battle of coverage more than anything else. Youll be locked in an eternal struggle of trying to fill coverage gaps to be competitive, so that could come as a downside. Any server look to push top 6 should definitely be a candidate though.

[worsty]

Dethwar80, on 20 October 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:

Top servers are:

JQ
SBI
IOJ
BG
SOS - they had decent amount of Oceanic/Asian Presence they might still need one more.

The above servers seem to be all done and look to be quite even in power.  Quite a bit of dropoff in power after that.  So the next up and coming servers: Sanctum of Rall, Tarnished Coast,and Fort Aspenwood are lining up for that 6th spot.  Crystal Desert looks to be spiraling out of control along with ET and HOD.  So I guess - do you homework between between SoR, TC, and FA.  Hopefully some coordination with whatever is remaining of ET, HOD, and CD and coordinate a move to round out the top 6.

Pardon me but what are you talking about spiraling out of control? CD has always been the undisputed #7 place in the game since god knows when even with the majority of the players in the server being PvE focused. Even if CD gets crushed in the current line up, that's only because SoR and SoS are the new #4-6 (influx of ex ET, HoD ,JQ guilds joining them) ranked servers meaning, we are still #7. We are just unfortunate that ET and HoD's accumulated points were high enough to stop their drop to Tier 3. Just look at how they are performing now in the present match up.

CD has the distinction of not having guilds leaving to join the bandwagon of top tiers and they have been quite stable with no major ins and outs. It's a server with hardly any queue during the GMT+7 hours for WvW. So the server would love to have more coverage in this zone. There's a couple of guilds that does WvW daily for CD but we could do with more. We welcome Euros as well as that's CD's weakest spot (Gap between Oceanic and NA)

If you want a server that gives you almost instant queues during your timezone , allow you to have fun hopping between Tier 2 and Tier 3 (enough competition but not full on dedication required), CD is the server for you. On days your members decide to do PvE, we do have a huge population that will ensure that you will be able to do party up to do dungeons quickly.

[Laylyn]

worsty, on 20 October 2012 - 01:49 PM, said:

Pardon me but what are you talking about spiraling out of control? CD has always been the undisputed #7 place in the game since god knows when even with the majority of the players in the server being PvE focused. Even if CD gets crushed in the current line up, that's only because SoR and SoS are the new #4-6 (influx of ex ET, HoD ,JQ guilds joining them) ranked servers meaning, we are still #7. We are just unfortunate that ET and HoD's accumulated points were high enough to stop their drop to Tier 3. Just look at how they are performing now in the present match up.

CD has the distinction of not having guilds leaving to join the bandwagon of top tiers and they have been quite stable with no major ins and outs. It's a server with hardly any queue during the GMT+7 hours for WvW. So the server would love to have more coverage in this zone. There's a couple of guilds that does WvW daily for CD but we could do with more. We welcome Euros as well as that's CD's weakest spot (Gap between Oceanic and NA)

If you want a server that gives you almost instant queues during your timezone , allow you to have fun hopping between Tier 2 and Tier 3 (enough competition but not full on dedication required), CD is the server for you. On days your members decide to do PvE, we do have a huge population that will ensure that you will be able to do party up to do dungeons quickly.

It's also why CD is the most likely number 6 or 7 for reinforcement, if SoR self balanced.   Given better coverage, past status should break and you'll be able to move up.  Until then though, the SBI and SOS coverage gaps have to be closed.   SoR might have done a self balance according to the rumor mill and I don't have contact with that server currently.


/salute

[worsty]

Laylyn, on 20 October 2012 - 01:52 PM, said:

It's also why CD is the most likely number 6 or 7 for reinforcement, if SoR self balanced.   Given better coverage, past status should break and you'll be able to move up.  Until then though, the SBI and SOS coverage gaps have to be closed.   SoR might have done a self balance according to the rumor mill and I don't have contact with that server currently.


/salute

Sorry, but going by your rationale, why then did SoS and SoR get the lottery ticket during the ET/HoD fallout? They're not #1 nor #2 in the 'reinforcement ranking'. Likewise, Blackgate wasn't #1 either when you guys got the winning ticket.

No offense to you but just trying to understand where you're coming from.

[Laylyn]

worsty, on 20 October 2012 - 02:02 PM, said:

Sorry, but going by your rationale, why then did SoS and SoR get the lottery ticket during the ET/HoD fallout? They're not #1 nor #2 in the 'reinforcement ranking'. Likewise, Blackgate wasn't #1 either when you guys got the winning ticket.

No offense to you but just trying to understand where you're coming from.

They recruited, to the tune of hundreds of man hours.   Not being mean, but like most servers, your server didn't.

It wasn't a lotto.   It was a paycheck for hard labor.

Your strengthening will come from the ball other servers started rolling with first and put the most effort into.


/salute

[unyilwang]

Thanks for all your response, i appreciate it

So far, CD, TC, FA, SoS and Dragonbrand

its a mix feeling when we meet NOC, team, Ph, Res and Thai today =D. we even have dance with NOC members =D
Good luck to all of you.

Edited by unraveled, 21 October 2012 - 01:52 AM.
Removed reference to deleted content.

[sixplicit]

FA can definitely use an overnight crew to keep things rolling.  Always a close battle in NA primetime and we generally have 1st or 2nd until we go to sleep and then we lose lots of points.  For instance we had the number one spot last night during primetime with TC a close second (great batlle in primetime) and DB a bit behind.  We go to sleep and TC pulls way ahead as there really is no resistance from FA overnight.  I will say either of our opponents TC or DB would make a fine choice also.  SOS has a strong Oceanic crew already and there NA crew has been greatly enhanced.  They will probably be in top tiers soon.  They do not need people in your time zone.  NA is where they were lacking and that presence has been filled. Have not faced CD in a while so can not speak on that server but they seem to have heart also.  Once again, FA would welcome players that need a learning curve or are epic as long as they have heart and fight in them with no drama.

[Thaliff]

Was on this morning and ran with some PRO players before I had to go out. Good time. Sorry to see you guys go.

[Ayin]

Hai [Pro]!
We were just talking about playing with u guys on another server!
Sent u a msg

[PvPD00R]

SoS and SoR have each gotten better for NA off hours.  Both would be a good choice.

Both will probably stall out before T1 without some additional guilds of strength.

So if you are looking to Truly make a difference, those are two very good choices. Both in T3 this week.

[salluks]

have you considered any EU servers?

the below 2 might help shed some light on Far shiverpeaks.

http://www.guildwars...ns-welcome-too/

http://www.guildwars...ar-shiverpeaks/

your timing will fit perfectly here and you will have a lot of competition as well.

Edited by salluks, 20 October 2012 - 04:21 PM.

[KodiakX]

CD or SoR seem like solid choices based on what yer looking for.

[G L J]

Fort Aspenwood is in dire need of an Asian presence. We have a very strong NA presence, capable of tangoing and beating most of our opposition. We just run into issues in the overnight time.

For more information, you can contact me or shadowlord PTX.

[Al Shamari]

I never see enough Darkhaven love on these threads! So, currently supporting Dark Resistance [DR] on Darkhaven! We're middle-tier, currently on a roll. Up three and currently in the lead of our current match up. We're pretty effective during most times during the day, but some servers will get us during night capping hours. So we could use some GMT +7 to stock up on defenses!

We're a pretty full server with a large player base most of the time. We may not be a powerhouse, but I believe we're following the same path as Sanctum of Rall in our course of action currently. Could be an interesting match up against them again in the future!

Speaking of Sanctum of Rall, I'll go ahead and throw out some support for them as well (even if they did kick our ass in an impressive rally several weeks ago). They're a great mid-tier server with impressive dedication! Check them out as well!

[Blackdeathteal]

Sos has the best oceanic populaton ive seen from all the servers atm Gom is dieing and i have looked at a few other
best bet would to head there

[Dethwar80]

Problem is that CD quits.  Your own people say it.  

The logic is simple - shore up the next up and coming server to compete at the top level. Here is the analysis based on this week and next week's matchup.  I am excluding the top 5 server since they are set and do not need any more stacking:

1  Sanctum of Rall: Winning Tier 3 matchup vs CD and keeping it close vs top 5 server SoS.  Infusion of Pro Baddies might just push them ahead of SoS. Rounding up top 6 servers.

2. Tarnished Coast: winning against Dragonbrand and Fort Aspenwood.  Again - infusion of Pro Baddies might be the push they need to round out top 6.

Dragonbrand/Fort Aspenwood/Crystal Desert would be the only other choices.  However, you would not create the next top 6 server with your move.  Sanctum of Rall and Tarnished Coast are the best and most logical choices and the move to shore up SoR and TC rounds out top 6 servers very nicely.

Out of SoR and TC - looks like SoR would be the winner based on higher seed and keeping it very close against powerhouse server SoS.

unyilwang, on 20 October 2012 - 03:22 PM, said:

Thanks for all your response, i appreciate it

So far, CD, TC, FA, SoS and Dragonbrand

its a mix feeling when we meet NOC, team, Ph, Res and Thai today =D. we even have dance with NOC members =D
Good luck to all of you.


Dont worry - we will not go to BG, we know our 'level' =D

Out of the ones you mentioned - TC is the better choice.  They are beating Dragonbrand and FA.  CD is not a good choice and they are on their way to T4/T5.  Dont forget SoR - that would be a great choice for Pro Baddies.

Edited by Dethwar80, 20 October 2012 - 05:38 PM.