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#1 Mittuns

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 01:02 AM

I was aiming towards warrior or guardian but if there's possibly something else go ahead and tell me. I want to be able to hit  big numbers without dying in one hit D:... The main reason I'm posting this is because I'm working towards getting Twilight and I want it to be on a class that's good with greatswords. Please help?

#2 Maxtofunator

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 01:46 AM

All four classes really are good with greatswords, though most people will tell you warrior. Guardian greatsword is still really epic,a nd mesmer greatsword shoots laser, which is just cool. Rangers greatsword isn't that bad at all really if you build for power/precision and use a longbow as well

#3 Katherine Dawnblade

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 01:56 AM

Definitely guardian. Albeit you will see many warriors with greatswords, GS warriors are pretty overrated- their DPS is basically focuses on One Hundred Blades, other skills aren't really that damaging. And most of warrior greatsword builds are "glass cannon" builds. Ranger is better at ranged DPS. Mesmer with greatsword is nice, but it doesn't feel like you are using a greatsword- all the skills are ranged.  Guardian can make really nice DPS with greasword while using all his skills, building for greatsword doesn't  have to sacrifice your survivality , and skill animations are really nice.

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 04:32 AM

The problem with mesmer GS is that you don't get to 'swing' it in action, hence twilight's dynamic effect is a waste on a mesmer... You need to find a class that has great movements with GS to get the full effect of twilight.  Then again, with mesmer you'll have clones wielding twilight as well... LOL

Edited by sorting hat, 22 October 2012 - 04:33 AM.


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Posted 22 October 2012 - 10:37 AM

View PostKatherine Dawnblade, on 22 October 2012 - 01:56 AM, said:

Albeit you will see many warriors with greatswords, GS warriors are pretty overrated- their DPS is basically focuses on One Hundred Blades, other skills aren't really that damaging. And most of warrior greatsword builds are "glass cannon" builds.

That's completely wrong - like, the complete opposite of reality.

1) HB actually has less DPS than autoattack.
We use it for the burst and might stackng but DPS wise it's not better.

2) Other GS skills hit for a ton of damage as well.
Our shittiest GS attack hits for as much as Guardian's strongest attack.

3) Greatsword doesn't mean glass cannon.
On my Warrior I hit 25k crits on HB and have 3200 armor + 11s invulnerability.

Please don't spread misinformation.

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 10:42 AM

View PostKatherine Dawnblade, on 22 October 2012 - 01:56 AM, said:

Definitely guardian. Albeit you will see many warriors with greatswords, GS warriors are pretty overrated- their DPS is basically focuses on One Hundred Blades, other skills aren't really that damaging. And most of warrior greatsword builds are "glass cannon" builds. Ranger is better at ranged DPS. Mesmer with greatsword is nice, but it doesn't feel like you are using a greatsword- all the skills are ranged.  Guardian can make really nice DPS with greasword while using all his skills, building for greatsword doesn't  have to sacrifice your survivality , and skill animations are really nice.

wow. I could not disagree with ya more.
Red Falcon summed it up well so I will not repeat his dps spec comments.
However, I play as a shout war with full Clerics, the trinkets I adjust due to need and group but I still hit 14k crits and my constant 1500-3000 auto swings add up to a ton.
Also the #3 skill hits for great dmg and is a dodge, plus if you disable melee assist in options you can #5 right through a boss while avoiding dmg. (cant have boss targeted tho)

Huge mobility, extra "evade" attacks and great damage.
<3 GS !!

Played right, I can keep mobs on me in 100% Clerics gear and trinkets, because of crits and dmg, that is with a full dps team. It's not always easy but possible. Keeping Fury up non-stop is a must for keeping aggro, using Sig of Rage and FGJ.
Keeping most of the aggro is no small feat with 1K +HP but the GS makes it doable.

*edit is due to posting from my phone, then getting home and correcting my many typing errors. :P

Edited by M1k3l, 22 October 2012 - 11:33 AM.


#7 ArlanKels

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 03:07 PM

I personally feel Mesmer Greatsword's main attack should've been swinging the weapon to throw waves of purpley death, but meh..

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 04:39 PM

View PostArlanKels, on 22 October 2012 - 03:07 PM, said:

I personally feel Mesmer Greatsword's main attack should've been swinging the weapon to throw waves of purpley death, but meh..

qft

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 04:55 PM

mesmer's greatsword has range, i think that is all that needs to be known.

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 07:10 PM

Warrior greatsword is okay, but I could never give up Binding Blade on the guardian's greatsword.  It's never not fun.

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 09:41 PM

Judging a class' abilities with a greatsword based on their animations when used with a legendary weapon that 99.9% of players will never own...brilliant.

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 09:41 PM

i don't under why not mesmer... when you use GS 2 skill it leaves a trail when your twilight bounces off from people to people. Plus who doesn't like purple laser and chucking GS at people. LOL

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 05:19 AM

Since you go for big number, warrior is handsdown the best profession for GS

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 07:31 PM

View Postdeitiesforce, on 22 October 2012 - 09:41 PM, said:

i don't under why not mesmer... when you use GS 2 skill it leaves a trail when your twilight bounces off from people to people. Plus who doesn't like purple laser and chucking GS at people. LOL

I can't help but feel my greatsword isn't the best choice for my Mesmer, but it's just SO MUCH FUN to watch.  I'm a big fan of even the autoattack, how we don't even hold it, it just floats and revolves and spits out lances of plasma and lightning.  I'm absolutely in love with that.

And the ground-stabby we share with Guardians.  Love.  Even when it sucks.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 08:57 PM

View PostBlack Autumn, on 23 October 2012 - 07:31 PM, said:

I can't help but feel my greatsword isn't the best choice for my Mesmer, but it's just SO MUCH FUN to watch.  I'm a big fan of even the autoattack, how we don't even hold it, it just floats and revolves and spits out lances of plasma and lightning.  I'm absolutely in love with that.

And the ground-stabby we share with Guardians.  Love.  Even when it sucks.

This is pretty true, the Mesmer probably has the coolest actual use of the greatsword, followed by the guardian. I love how I don't hold the greatsword, and it is even better on the Charr who only put out one hand to levitate the greatsword with.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 10:24 AM

Warrior 100 blades is great in pve when the npc's will nicely clump together and stand in one spot.  PVP its easily avoided & insta death.

Mesmer - useable at range, can spawn a berserker on people at range with warrior ability that aoe's everyone and you can blow it up causing various status effects for more aoe.  You can summon a berserker on people up on the walls or siege equipment behind walls.  You have knockback, and two other dmg abilities what GS.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 08:34 PM

Mesmer, may not seem like the best but it is.

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 09:40 PM

second vote for mesmer. nothing like a scholar with huge sword . muahahaha

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 02:41 PM

Warrior or Guardian!

#20 Soylent

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 11:52 AM

I'm gonna say Warrior or Guardian.

#21 Odokuro

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:02 PM

I find the Guardians GS Skill Bar to be far more appealing than either the Warriors or the Rangers.
The GS Guardians skills just seems a lot more useful, and cover more bases than the other two.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 01:43 PM

Animation:  Guardian looks the coolest.

Kit:  Mesmer is leaps and bounds better than the other 3.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 06:45 PM

Everyone has their favorite, but people have been bashing 100B unfairly

I have an exotic greatsword (believe it's a knight's Pearl) with a sup. rune of Undead Slaying.  I wade into the undead like they were the scale in the river outside Div. Reach.  It's not hard with high enough crit to easily do 40,000 dmg to a single target in one press.

While you don't have the satisfaction  of getting the side effects you would with other class's GS abilities, the warrior's is simple to execute and deals consistent, raw damage you can rely upon.

#24 Seipher09

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 06:48 PM

Id do it on a guardian, personally I think GS is junk on a warrior compared to A/A or A/M. (Just my opinion which is what he was asking for)

But guardians great sword I feel is very solid even after the nerf to symbol of wrath.

#25 Gannyr

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 11:41 PM

I love everything about the Mesmer gs except the damn auto attack range constraints. I dislike the ranger's longbow because of it too, having to stay over 900 for max damage is annoying for an auto attack.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 01:33 PM

Warrior.....

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:17 AM

Guardian used to be much better with the Greatsword but they nerfed it for sPvP balance relating to retaliation. Still Warrior and Guardian are best with the GS. Mesmer is quite good too and Ranger sucks hard with GS...

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 09:22 PM

Warrior is by far the best...

what are u guys smoking? I assume he means best as in DPS.
The warrior is very boring to play tho... 2111121111121111121111 somewhere in the middle u pop FGJ, and On my Mark... but its just 2 button mashing.  However i have yet to see any class come close to the DPS numbers of a GS warrior.  

Hundered Blades when traited and setup correctly does anywhere from 12K-35K  (Totally buff'd)
http://www.guildwars...hundred-blades/

This guy proves it..

View PostAyuta, on 16 November 2012 - 11:14 AM, said:

35k 100blades


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There is no way a guardian can top a warrior in DPS or any class for that matter with a greatsword.

Personally if u ask me, guardians are better off with hammers as it does more dps in the long run + lays down a symbole every third hit  and with when traited can heal and also give protection and inflict damage.

Edited by Naekuh, 16 November 2012 - 09:26 PM.


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Posted 19 November 2012 - 11:33 AM

View PostArlanKels, on 22 October 2012 - 03:07 PM, said:

I personally feel Mesmer Greatsword's main attack should've been swinging the weapon to throw waves of purpley death, but meh..

But... Pew pew lazorz...

:(

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 11:40 AM

Mesmer! We fire our lazer cannons and can throw the sword like a boomerang! Also you can't summon an illusion and yell "GO BERZERKER!!!!" creating a whirling death monster with any other profession. If none of those are your fancy and you're all about having a legendary well with a mesmer you can toss out three clones and have three legendary greatswords to showcase.




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