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#1 Xanarot

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 01:21 PM

Lately certain T6 fine materials have dropped below the T5 price. Some (ancient bones anyone?) are even almost getting to the point, where the 15% sell fee actually makes you seriously considering vendoring them instead of bother with the TP.

Most T6 materials (snow truffels, omnomom berry, ancient wood, orichalcum, gossamer, fine mats like blood, orbs) are pretty solid on at least 1s+.

Does this just scream 'investment' before a recipe gets added/discovered that actually uses these and makes the price go up towards the same 1s+ level of other T6 mats?
Or is this going to end up flatlining at vendor value and getting merched?

#2 Lordkrall

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 01:25 PM

The main reason the bones are getting so low is: 1) Every mob in Orr drops them and 2) Every mob in the Mad Realm drops them.
They price will probably go up a bit when Halloween is over.

#3 Fatalis

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 01:32 PM

More people are getting to level 80, and thus more people can actively obtain those items.

I wouldn't just jump on investing them, you could be holding them for a very long time.

#4 Krypt1200

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 10:06 PM

Theres a difference between fine materials and regular materials as you've stated.

Maybe you should study the game before you start delving into speculating the market?

#5 The_Tree_Branch

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 10:09 PM

Bones and venom sacs are very common drops in Orr. I don't really see the supply disappearing any time soon.

#6 Duplicated

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 11:15 PM

Don't forget them bots. They are almost the sole reason you shouldn't invest in T5/T6 fine materials.

#7 JONO51

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 10:51 AM

Bump for relevance:

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Fifth, extensive farming and/or botting has created a vast surplus of some mob drops, materials, and junk items. That surplus may make crafting less expensive but it also drives players away from playing the game post-80. Low value for items = low interest in gathering unless you are a professional farmer. A reason there are vast supplies of some items in the trading post could be because the desire to consume them is very low – again, driven by peaked demand for craft results.


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5) I have an update coming out for this soonPosted Image

So, perhaps something rolled into the Nov 15th update to suck out some of these overstocked/botted crafting materials?

Source: https://forum-en.gui...versus-gameplay

Edited by JONO51, 03 November 2012 - 10:52 AM.


#8 Sundreamer

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 11:13 AM

don't bother, unless you want to keep on to them for a looooong time

#9 Aetou

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 03:52 PM

I'm not sure, if they fix the botting issues like they claim they will then the supply of T6 materials is going to decrease.  That would normally drive the prices up but I'm not sure there is really much demand for them now - karma and dungeon gear is very easy to get as soon as you hit 80 now which leaves the market for crafted gear quite small.

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 07:25 PM

View PostAetou, on 03 November 2012 - 03:52 PM, said:

I'm not sure, if they fix the botting issues like they claim they will then the supply of T6 materials is going to decrease.  That would normally drive the prices up but I'm not sure there is really much demand for them now - karma and dungeon gear is very easy to get as soon as you hit 80 now which leaves the market for crafted gear quite small.

From what John Smith said it sounds like there's more to it than just banning bots. After all, he said "I  have an update" not "we have an update" and he's the ANet economist not anti-bot dude or w/e. Who knows, maybe I'm reading too much into this....

Edited by JONO51, 03 November 2012 - 07:25 PM.


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Posted 03 November 2012 - 07:27 PM

View PostLordkrall, on 29 October 2012 - 01:25 PM, said:

The main reason the bones are getting so low is: 1) Every mob in Orr drops them and 2) Every mob in the Mad Realm drops them.
They price will probably go up a bit when Halloween is over.

Highly doubt it. It was vendor price well before the event occured. It would take a new, desirable recipe requiring these to get them out of the market.

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 07:36 PM

View PostJONO51, on 03 November 2012 - 07:25 PM, said:

From what John Smith said it sounds like there's more to it than just banning bots. After all, he said "I  have an update" not "we have an update" and he's the ANet economist not anti-bot dude or w/e. Who knows, maybe I'm reading too much into this....

Right.  My comments were talking about the prices of T6 materials generally with regards to the OP, rather than being related to the quotes in your post.  While I'm sure ANet want to make T6 materials more useful in general the fact remains that it is bots who are largely responsible for crashing the price of many of the T6  Fine materials and so their removal will lead to a decrease in the supply and thus an increase, of unknown magnitude, in their price.

#13 Valkaire

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 01:27 AM

Does anyone know if there's been an announcement towards the change in orichalcum respawns? I can honestly see the price raising since for the past two days I've checked and the respawn is now ~24 hours from when you last gathered it instead of resetting at 5pm PST daily.

#14 Xanarot

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 01:25 PM

Heh.. gues i was just in time with my OP, swimming in gold now.

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 10:24 PM

View PostJONO51, on 03 November 2012 - 07:25 PM, said:

From what John Smith said it sounds like there's more to it than just banning bots. After all, he said "I  have an update" not "we have an update" and he's the ANet economist not anti-bot dude or w/e. Who knows, maybe I'm reading too much into this....

Nah you're probably right, but so far they've only been doing this for massively tanked items, like butter/cinnamon sticks/ etc.  The post didn't really mention t-6 tanked items, so we don't really know anything really yet.
Fun while it lasted.  I guess.

#16 Bonja

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 11:55 PM

its not a viable option as this is a temporary rise as bots will restablish themselves i reckon the prices will slowly drop as ectos and crafting cant stay this high for this long
however its nice profits from farming atm




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