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#61 Barbieslayer

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 03:33 PM

There are 3 major time zones being taken into consideration it would seem.  And on the face of it they line up better when they have set the time for than any other possability.  Do the math.

12pst 8gmt 7ost

let's see how to change them around so it's better for all... any later europe would be playing later into the night/morning, any earlier and the Oceanic would have to be up at silly O'clock. 8pst = 4(am)gmt, 3(pm)ost.  That just seems worse to me... the event would be practicaly empty appart from in the US contingant at these times, throughout the weekend and final event.
  Considering it's a dynamic event with an outcome, it seems difficult to repeat such a senario unless it was instanced, but my brain seems to shy away from the amount of work that would be involved in that...

When GW1 was server based and events held at different times due to time zones, people would attened the first one available and then sever hopped to feel special, spoiling the shiny'ness of the event for those that were yet to start it.  This is a comprimise to keep things shiny and get as many people involved as they can.  If it's that important to you, take some time off, or abandon your responsibilities entirely...

I missed out on the event of the last beta, but it didn't cause me to kitten my pants...

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 04:47 PM

View PostTellia, on 06 November 2012 - 01:28 PM, said:

also since when should they only cater to the majority? who gives a crap if most people are in us or europe and actually have jobs they can take a day off of to play a damn video game? they have thousands of loyal players disappointed in the rest of the world. and YOU want them to just not consider us at all because of some stupid idea that the event cant repeat itself. does it ruin your experience so much if it would repeat, that you would be willing to let thousands of other players NOT experience it at all?

The point is that in a game world that's at all dynamic, not every player is going to get to experience every piece of content, period. The only way to avoid that issue entirely is to have a static world, which we've already established that most players don't actually want. So it's just an unfortunate reality of multiplayer gaming.

That being the case... yes, I would rather have some events not repeat, even if I miss those events myself, than keep the game more static or break game logic so I can see everything.

If every important piece of content in Guild Wars was one-time-only, I would agree that it was a problem. The occasional event, though? I think it's worth it to have meaningful changes to the game world happen sometimes.

#63 Tanith

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 04:58 PM

Exactly.  And it's not like the advent of UberQuaggan is something that can be contained in a single event, anyhow.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 05:49 PM

I really hope all the events repeat all day or at least for a few hours. Someone mentioned that you at least get to see most of the events with having the weekends off. Well that's definitely not the case for people who work in retail, especially with Thanksgiving around the corner. Luckily my work is very flexible and while looking something up I saw this event was happening. I can't request the whole 3 days off but I can at least get Sunday off. I'm hoping they repeat the events for Friday and Saturday for a few hours as well.
Regardless of my little rant there I DO like one time events. I love that the game is dynamic and the best they can do is run the events on weekends when people most likely have the day off. However, instead of posting this information on the website it would be nice if I got a mail in the game that told me this so I can ask for that certain day off and more people know its coming.

Edited by JusticeSmudge85, 06 November 2012 - 05:54 PM.


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Posted 06 November 2012 - 06:28 PM

no offense, it's reality. People are saying that they are catering only to US player. I live in New York and i have classes on Friday so i will miss the first event. So what? it's life. I would save more energy to enjoy the game, or figure a way to fix the rotation of the earth or something. No offense to other people, of course they would put people that live in America as priority and it is a right BUSINESS decision. I'm sure they already did detailed analysis to cater most people so more people can enjoy. Talking about selfishness. It would be selfish for Anet to do prime time for US to screw other people that don't live in the states, but they didn't do that so just chill out and enjoy.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 06:48 PM

I won't be able to make it :(. Too bad, some what missed the last one, was in a personal story during it lol, saw it on my gf's computer. Iooks like I'll be youtubing this one.

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 07:10 PM

First, let me say I get it...and not complaining. I will be missing the start on Friday.

My suggestion, and maybe someone will take a look, is could it be set up, to where the main server fires off the event...and say assign each one 3 overflow servers...and have each overflow fire off at a different time...and base server assignment on a tag somehow on your toon, that says "I have done X" where X is the event. Set those times so people know, and then let the overflows run the events until the main and all 3 overflows have ran the event. Start moving people around as usual in an overflow situation once the event has ran on each overflow...spreads out the server work, and yes, would take a bit more programming savvy and resources.

Do I think this will happen this time? No.
Could it be done in the future to avoid all the ill will? Maybe, if the krewe at ANET can figure out how to do that to where it doesn't cause any other problems.

That's why I'm throwing it out here, maybe someone will see it and think on how it could be done and use the overflow servers in alleviating this issue.

I understand the frustration, but man you guys can get so angry.

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#68 Mastruq

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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:19 PM

On a 3 day event no time zone is going to have everything happening inside the weekend. I prefer them doing events this way to not doing events, and obviously you cannot please everyone. I missed parts of the halloween content with several characters, and I'll miss stuff in future events too. It is not the end of the world.

... however fortune has it that I have friday and monday off, penciled that in half a year ago for a reason that has since fallen through. So thanks A.net for being so nice and placing this patch exactly on those otherwise wasted vacation days =)

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 03:34 AM

16th? I thought it was 15th. They put the events at exactly when I'll have to be at work.

Sunday hasnt been a none work day for most people, outside of government, for years.  They need to stop with these one time only events.  Its not fair to most people.

Edited by Ramei Arashi, 07 November 2012 - 03:39 AM.


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Posted 07 November 2012 - 04:09 AM

Oh, good. The finale happens right when I leave for New York. I didn't want to leave without feeling like I was missing out on something anyways.

#71 Sevens

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 10:59 AM

Not common complaint in this thread 'Its not fair"
LMAO

#72 Kymeric

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 01:41 PM

Solution:

1. Implement guesting.
2. Rotate the event so a quarter of the servers launch the event every six hours.
3. Make sure the schedule is published well in advance.
4. Enjoy happier citizens of Tyria.

Or:

1. Make the one-time event instanced.
2. Run it eight times over the course of 24 hours.
3. Anyone showing up at the location an hour before the event is scheduled gets one of those green "enter personal story instance" thingamabobs to interact with if they haven't done the event yet.
4. Enjoy happier citizens of Tyria.

Or, failing that, at least pick some different times for these events.  It appears that noon on Sunday is going to be the default for one-time events.  Okay, so that's when the most people are on.  Very democratic.  The having it on the same time every time screws the minority.  Which, hey, is kinda democratic, too.

Edited by Kymeric, 07 November 2012 - 01:45 PM.


#73 Lunacy Polish

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 01:41 PM

The way I figure it missing things likes this which don't matter is the price you pay for being able to control the outcome of WvW every week.;-)

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 01:45 PM

View PostKymeric, on 07 November 2012 - 01:41 PM, said:

Solution:

1. Implement guesting.
2. Rotate the event so a quarter of the servers launch the event every six hours.
3. Make sure the schedule is published well in advance.
4. Enjoy happier citizens of Tyria.

Or, failing that, at least pick some different times for these events.  It appears that noon on Sunday is going to be the default for one-time events.  Okay, so that's when the most people are on.  Very democratic.  The having it on the same time every time screws the minority.  Which, hey, is kinda democratic, too.

And you assume that they can have different versions of the world on different servers. This is most likely not the case.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 09:24 PM

I cant wait for the new content to launch! It's also a nice touch of Anet to include sort of teasers in-game even before the content launched! For a summary on the teasers that are already in-game look here:

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 03:46 AM

I work Sundays. , even if i wasn't working, i won't be able to participate in the event as it is 4 am, i can't stay up until 4 am for an online game, not even for Guild Wars, i'd be label an addict!.. also even if i want to attend the event, I assume I will have to download some kind of contents before hands, i'd be log out of the game, by the time i finally loaded the new contents, the event will be gone.

Anyway, there better not be a title/achievement tie to attending "one time event"s .....

But, still it is good to know we are getting new contents!

#77 Oryx

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 10:04 PM

Oh, btw boys and girls, have you seen -->this<-- ?
5 pages!
damn!

Edited by Oryx, 09 November 2012 - 10:04 PM.


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Posted 10 November 2012 - 12:41 PM

View PostOryx, on 09 November 2012 - 10:04 PM, said:

Oh, btw boys and girls, have you seen -->this<-- ?
5 pages!
damn!

they better not break the mesmer.

#79 Mustache Mayhem

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 02:49 PM

probably gonna miss it =| oh well.. that sunday's my birthday too, probably gonna miss the one time thing as I'm out of town..

I dunno if it wasn't for the slippers event.. might have already quit :P

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 04:01 AM

Well, I'll be at work so I'm going to miss it. Really seems very silly to have it in the middle of a workday. If it was on a weekend I'd say put it whenever they want, but on a weekday like that you're pretty much knocking out everyone in NA with jobs. It's a Friday so even if people in other time zones have to be up late, they can still participate pretty easily if they want to. If you are at work, you are at work. No getting out of that. They should have had the kickoff on Saturday and then the next phase on Sunday.

Edited by xarallei, 11 November 2012 - 04:02 AM.


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Posted 11 November 2012 - 09:04 AM

View Postxarallei, on 11 November 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:

Well, I'll be at work so I'm going to miss it. Really seems very silly to have it in the middle of a workday. If it was on a weekend I'd say put it whenever they want, but on a weekday like that you're pretty much knocking out everyone in NA with jobs. It's a Friday so even if people in other time zones have to be up late, they can still participate pretty easily if they want to. If you are at work, you are at work. No getting out of that. They should have had the kickoff on Saturday and then the next phase on Sunday.

You do know that the actual one-time event IS on a Sunday right?

The events on Friday and Saturday seems to loop. While the one-time event chain happens on Sunday.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 05:34 PM

View PostLordkrall, on 11 November 2012 - 09:04 AM, said:

You do know that the actual one-time event IS on a Sunday right?

The events on Friday and Saturday seems to loop. While the one-time event chain happens on Sunday.

Well, obviously not otherwise I wouldn't have had an issue with the Friday event. If it's true that is a good thing. But then it's STILL bad for the oceanics if the main one time only event thing is on Sunday. Would be best for them to put the main event on a Saturday so everyone can enjoy it.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 01:19 AM

I really wish instead of stressing how special these one time events, making them happen twice or thrice during the day won't hurt the experience as much as it is hurting everyone not living in the USA.

Edited by Decollete, 12 November 2012 - 01:20 AM.


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Posted 15 November 2012 - 04:50 AM

Do i need to be  level 80 or close to it to participate in  these or...

sorry kinda just bought the game only  level 30 atm don't know how these work too well yet.

Edited by NotKMoose, 15 November 2012 - 04:50 AM.


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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:39 AM

9am on a monday for me..............how imperfect timing lol. i hope i get a chance to see this so called new zone.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:10 PM

View PostNotKMoose, on 15 November 2012 - 04:50 AM, said:

Do i need to be  level 80 or close to it to participate in  these or...

Characters will be automatically level-adjusted from what I've read. :)

#87 Kymeric

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 09:53 PM

Time of greatest regular concurrency is not necessarily the same thing as the time when most people would be able to log in to experience a special event.

I think one of the saddest things is not missing this one climax event, but seeing that ANet has decided Sunday Noon PST will be the standard.  Those of us who are unlikely to ever make that time can't even shrug it off with "Well, maybe I'll get to do the next big one-time event".

It all seems so strange for a game pitched around the globe, and available around the clock.

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Posted 16 November 2012 - 06:59 AM

View Postrebalnz, on 15 November 2012 - 05:39 AM, said:

9am on a monday for me..............how imperfect timing lol. i hope i get a chance to see this so called new zone.

Seeing as the new zone is a permanent addition it is highly likely that you will get a chance to see it unless you have decided to stop playing the game.





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