GammaWolf, on 11 November 2012 - 09:53 PM, said:
Yes exactly. Aodan and others like him seem to think they are heroes for playing a poorly designed game when people who actually have intelligence understand that game has critical development flaws and see no purpose in banging their heads against a wall when there are plenty of other games to play these days.
Then play those games and don't come raging on forums.
The reason why Paid has so little teams competing is because many lesser skilled/organized teams don't wish to lose on the first map and lose their tickets every time they que. Thus with Paid you have a much higher level of players and even pugs playing it than in Free.
This means that only a small % of the tottal pop is playing paid, not because the game is poorly designed or bad.
It's mostly the issue with majority of the population not being able/willing to learn/play at the level that dominates paid, thus they decide to not even que.
The Primo, on 11 November 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:
The worst thing about the whole situation is hot join could be a billion times better if they just switched it to 5v5 instead of 8v8. That change alone would make me log in right now and do a little hot join before I go off and eat lunch, but instead I just think about getting smacked by a zerg running around and welp no thanks.
Or I guess I could go solo que a free tourney oh wait I'll just get blown up by a premade no thanks.
Damn Anet just slap a (insert esport here) style ranking system on hot join and make it 5v5 maybe I'll actually play your game.
Many in BWE were saying that they needed to turn Hot Join into 5v5 and Me as well saying that this would foster people to make a better transition into Free/Paid.
That one I've always agreed with from when I started playing.
My thoughts is that Anet wants Custom Arena's to solve that issue and to drive revenue from renting servers if you want pre tournament 5v5.
Also when they eventually do GvG that will probably be the majority of "hot join" play.
Odinson, on 13 November 2012 - 11:53 PM, said:
Suggestions have been offered but apparently you failed to read the thread.
From your hardcore point of view, the world is fine, but you are in fact at the top. Congrats to you, but you misunderstand what it is like to just start playing this game. I have several hardcore FPS/MMO/Online Action gaming friends who are not playing GW2 for the reason that it is very difficult to jump in a game without getting their butts kicked. While sometimes it will drive some people, such as myself, to get better. Other times, people will deicde that it is in no way a good time to get curb stomped by the elite players who have been playing since beta. This does not make for a good gaming environment.
The thing is, you do love this game, and when people come here to voice their concerns and you voice back that they are bad or immature also creates a poor atmosphere which will ruin the game you love.
The community you so speak of is not in game. This is a poor design when the best teams have to go outside of a game in order to find each other. We have mentioned that in the thread already.
What is also poor is to place the very best teams on voice chat against a bunch of random players trying their class for the first time. The fact that you are "good" at this game doesn't mean anything. You can call people wrong all day long, accuse them of being bad and not learning how to play the game. What a poor stance that is. This is a GAME. This is meant to be enjoyed by all who play. So putting those who have the free time to play this game and play it with other people regularly should not be put in with people who have a 1/2 hour to an hour a night to log on. And guess what, the latter will most likely always lose no matter how organize they get. It's a matter of time = skill. Talent will come into play but in the end, time and experience trumps even the best of talent.
So yes, this is important to post this concern.
I'm sorry I was there at some point too and I still get curbed by top 5 teams. If your friends aren't playing simply because they can't take losing that's not indicative of GW2 being bad or poorly designed, that happens in any and all games.
The game can be enjoyed but you are trying to play the "competitive" format of it. If you can't "hang" then play PvE or WvW.
My current team [BAMF] has been together for a tottal of one week. We beat almost all teams/players in Free, we beat most pugs in Paid, but when we come up against PZ, PTC, or a really good group of any players known or not known and we lose. We evaluate what we did wrong and what we can do to be better. We find out if those players stream, we friend them and talk to them, or we try to recap to the best of our abilities.
Not sit there and complain about how imbalanced the game is or how crappy it's designed.
(Mind you our comp is not abusing bunker meta or dbl grd)
You don't see that happening in most other competitive games for example Starcraft II has seen many days where certain combinations and plays were extremely strong, but you don't see the top players just dropping the game because of it.
DOTA2 is still in beta, and has many imbalances but there are major teams like EG picking it up.
The point is that if you lose or can't take losing constructively than don't blame the game or try to play in a competitive environment if your not willing to do the work to compete.
Also if you think it's ok, in this day in age of online gaming to play a game at any level of competitiveness without a VOIP on PC, than your better off playing on consoles.
10$ Head set = Your good to go.
Edited by Aodan, 14 November 2012 - 02:57 AM.