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#61 Sirandar

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 06:22 AM

Entertaining evening of cat and mouse with a few giant forces.  Very fun and hopefully each server continues to push the action.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 06:40 AM

View Postxarallei, on 11 November 2012 - 06:11 AM, said:

Yeah, if things keep going as they are we are going to have the same matchups in t1 and t2 again. lol.

Honestly don't mind staying in T2 next week. No point in going up just to be swatted back down. Judging by the candy corn catastrophe in T3, I am pretty sure every one and their uncle on the oceanic side, are gonna skip WvW to go explore the Lost Isles.


Yea PRX may threaten to leave again, but a seriously doubt any of the T1 servers will let us come back like we did against Rall.


Not saying that we should throw this match, and I would really like to see how things are in T1 if we win this match-up, but I seriously doubt we'll do well there, especially next week.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 06:41 AM

Can someone post an update on the scores?

I'm stuck at work for till 7 am, then 2 whole days of GW2 & WvW. ^_^
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Posted 11 November 2012 - 06:50 AM

SoS - 48014 +335
IoJ - 34233 +180
SoR - 33153 +180

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:25 AM

View PostZomious, on 11 November 2012 - 06:40 AM, said:

Honestly don't mind staying in T2 next week. No point in going up just to be swatted back down. Judging by the candy corn catastrophe in T3, I am pretty sure every one and their uncle on the oceanic side, are gonna skip WvW to go explore the Lost Isles.


Yea PRX may threaten to leave again, but a seriously doubt any of the T1 servers will let us come back like we did against Rall.


Not saying that we should throw this match, and I would really like to see how things are in T1 if we win this match-up, but I seriously doubt we'll do well there, especially next week.

Yeah, but we're sick of fighting you so SHOO! SHOO! Though I don't know if BG is a good alternative. They had the crap beaten out of them in T1 but they still have a lot of fight left in them.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 08:49 AM

Worst part about this match is the cowards... IoJ why you so afraid to touch SoS?

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 07:45 PM

  • everyone is being double-teamed.  When two teams have orange swords, the third team sees opportunity.
  • All servers are waning in participation this week.  We're practically roommates, sick of each others' faces; and I actually am hoping that we have this match next week too so we can all explore Lost Shore (don't give up BG!) without anyone embarrassing themselves in another tier or messing up anyone's standings.
  • Every team in this match has proved themselves capable of putting up a fight.  IoJ has industrial fatigue, SoR is tired of dealing with their Oceanic disadvantages, and SoS can't get enough points from you two to get into T1.  So don't go picking on anyone for their server's status; we all have issues right now.


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Posted 11 November 2012 - 08:55 PM

What's the rush to get into Tier 1?  Wouldn't it be better to wait until Anet de-incentivizes HedgeHog-Zergs first?

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 09:57 PM

The main reason that I want in t1 as SoS is that we are clearly a stronger server than the other two. For whatever reason, better guilds or better coverage or more players, whatever, SoS is just stronger. The brackets aren't balanced with us in this tier and its not fun dominating every week or losing every week.

Maybe SoS will get dominated in t1. Maybe we will hold our own. Either way will be more fun than coasting to another victory, with IoJ and SoR losing motivation to come out each day.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 10:25 PM

View Postkhalid_war, on 11 November 2012 - 09:57 PM, said:

The main reason that I want in t1 as SoS is that we are clearly a stronger server than the other two. For whatever reason, better guilds or better coverage or more players, whatever, SoS is just stronger. The brackets aren't balanced with us in this tier and its not fun dominating every week or losing every week.

Maybe SoS will get dominated in t1. Maybe we will hold our own. Either way will be more fun than coasting to another victory, with IoJ and SoR losing motivation to come out each day.

If you were "dominating" every week, you would be in T1.  You are winning decisively but very far from "dominating".  You guys honestly need a trip to T1 so you can have your egos deflated.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 10:37 PM

View PostJunglizm, on 11 November 2012 - 10:25 PM, said:

If you were "dominating" every week, you would be in T1.  You are winning decisively but very far from "dominating".  You guys honestly need a trip to T1 so you can have your egos deflated.


Last week's score

277 402
193 378
151 885

The previous week

101 652
28 111
493 070

IoJ and SoR are good servers but trying to say we didn't dominate the bracket the last two weeks is pretty silly. Last week we ended up with almost twice the score of IoJ and an 80k lead over SoR.

Current update:

SoS:77349+325sm
IoJ:49343+235
SoR:47807+135

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 11:32 PM

The two reasons why SoS is still in T2 and probably will be next week as well is that we are NOT dominating, and BG is also not losing by much. Both T1 and T2 match-ups are pretty close (as are all the NA tiers except those involving HoD and ET).

This is an even match. At this stage any of the 3 servers could still win. SoS is having to work hard to stay ahead of IoJ and SoR, as anyone playing WvW at the moment can testify.

I reckon SoS, SoR and IoJ will be seeing each other a lot over the coming weeks. Once ET and HoD are shuffled down then there will be very little movement between tiers and my guess is we'll see the 2-week match-ups.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 12:02 AM

You hear that rumble? It might be the ground shaking.. it might be we're hungry for blood :)

TL is coming out full force tonight. See you there!
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 12:04 AM

View Postkhalid_war, on 11 November 2012 - 10:37 PM, said:

IoJ and SoR are good servers but trying to say we didn't dominate the bracket the last two weeks is pretty silly.

The math says it on the ratings system.  If you want into T1, then score like you deserve it.  Otherwise your going to have to grudgingly battle your way up a few points a week.  In the meantime, we will be here trying to claw you down every step of the way.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 12:24 AM

View Postkhalid_war, on 11 November 2012 - 10:37 PM, said:

Last week's score

277 402
193 378
151 885

The previous week

101 652
28 111
493 070

IoJ and SoR are good servers but trying to say we didn't dominate the bracket the last two weeks is pretty silly. Last week we ended up with almost twice the score of IoJ and an 80k lead over SoR.

Current update:

SoS:77349+325sm
IoJ:49343+235
SoR:47807+135

Thank you for the score update.

SoS is a good server yes, I've been having a lot of fun facing you & SoR... I wouldn't mind another week of this... ;)
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:11 AM

SoS appears to be missing on Sunday early evening. Two of the BLs they were MIA, and were being pushed hard on the 3rd. EB they were holdings their own + SM. Where did SoS go?

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:23 AM

Current Scores & Map:

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IoJ is doing pretty good tonight. ^_^
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 04:07 AM

View PostPvPD00R, on 12 November 2012 - 03:11 AM, said:

SoS appears to be missing on Sunday early evening. Two of the BLs they were MIA, and were being pushed hard on the 3rd. EB they were holdings their own + SM. Where did SoS go?

They decided to take one day off out of three weeks? Holy crap?

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 04:39 AM

View PostKillminusnine, on 12 November 2012 - 04:07 AM, said:

They decided to take one day off out of three weeks? Holy crap?

Doesn't take a ton of people to contest maps.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 04:44 AM

View PostJunglizm, on 12 November 2012 - 12:04 AM, said:

The math says it on the ratings system.  If you want into T1, then score like you deserve it.  Otherwise your going to have to grudgingly battle your way up a few points a week.  In the meantime, we will be here trying to claw you down every step of the way.

The desertion of HoD has fed massive amounts of rating to Tier 1 and tier 2, Sea of Sorrows only saw them for 1 week when they were the blue ranked team (2nd seeded), before they went down. It could take weeks before the glicko ratings balance out.

Tier 1 is swimming in the ratings that HoD fed to them and they keep sharing it amongst themselves, e.g the reason why it's hard for BG to go down is because SBI and JQ are rated so high (thanks to HoD who were #1), when you lose to superior opponents your rating barely changes, that's what's keeping BG alive. If you were to take away the 100 rating each that HoD gave to SBI and JQ, BG would have been relegated last week.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 05:15 AM

So close!

We managed to get the PPT to +270 but not quite enough to overtake SoS's +275 :P. Awesome job everyone. Had some great fights!
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 05:41 AM

IoJ Kicked face in tonight. They been beating face all weekend. From how many teeth I have had kicked in since Friday, it is amazing to me that they are in 3rd (almost 2nd.)

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 06:40 AM

The reason SoS aint up in tier1 yet because our server had a massive EU push event last week as well as our guild were the one who robbed the entire BG borderland to ourselves and also robbed/holded SM from both JQQ and SBI within the last 4 hours where the score difference was only around 10 :P

Anyway, i think this week SoS will possibly get up in tier1. We definitely need a little change of faces after 3 weeks getting zerged by both JQQ and SBI. IoJ! What a long await! Here we come to fight you!

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 06:43 AM

View PostNirvii, on 12 November 2012 - 06:40 AM, said:

IoJ! What a long await! Here we come to fight you!
im sure ioj will welcome seeing the bottom of someone elses shoe for a change.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:24 AM

View PostTellia, on 12 November 2012 - 06:43 AM, said:

im sure ioj will welcome seeing the bottom of someone elses shoe for a change.

Not noticing any shoes. You mean those shoes that show up when nobody is there to see them? Lost our last keep on SoS Borderlands with 5 people on the map in total (and about 30 siege weapons throughout the keep).

The cycle is simple: American Primetime (IoJ +200-275), Dead Zone (IoJ +90-130), Aussie Primetime (IoJ +200-275), Dead Zone (IoJ +50-100), European Primetime (???), Dead Zone (IoJ +50-100). People keep talking about coverage, but coverage usually only amounts to more people to play in any given primetime. We're consistently being beaten in the margins. Maybe it's a lot of PST players, or east coast AU, or people who work later, or people who sleep less, or whatever, but we have less of those people, and need more of them. It's damned near divine intervention if we can keep any of our upgrades to fortifications between primetimes.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 09:43 AM

Same time next week everyone?

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 10:50 AM

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lol.... so pathetic

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 12:55 PM

Been a fun day in WvW today. We capped bay keep in sos bl and have held it for hours now, killed so many trebs on the cliff at garrison.
Also had some epic fights over blue vale supply, we've dropped so much siege in there and SoS just keeps pushing.

Grats IoJ on taking stonemist! Nice to see it a color other than green this week.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:21 PM

View PostTellia, on 12 November 2012 - 06:43 AM, said:

im sure ioj will welcome seeing the bottom of someone elses shoe for a change.

LOL

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:39 PM

View PostVoison, on 11 November 2012 - 06:41 AM, said:

Can someone post an update on the scores?

I'm stuck at work for till 7 am, then 2 whole days of GW2 & WvW. ^_^

hey why ur guild not on SBI?

don't tell me you have relatives in Pyungyang

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