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#1 Sans

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Posted 10 November 2012 - 06:34 PM

So by black Friday ill have enough saved up to buy this computer at its current price.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mmsr

(Aesthetics are important, which explains some of the choices)

how significant are the price cuts for computer parts?

Do you guys think microcenter would lower the 3570k even more?

I'd like to buy a 1080p monitor, as right now i have a 1680x1050 monitor.

Also, any recommendations on a good 1080p monitor and 500g HDD

#2 atomicmew

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 08:37 AM

I realize you said that some of the choices are for aesthetics, but wouldn't you rather just have faster parts?

Ram:
Massively better ram at same price: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820147096

Case:
Antec 300 case $30: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16811129042

Mobo:
Asrock extreme4: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16813157293
(It's been under $100 on sale in the past)

PSU:
Better PSU same price: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16817151087

Would you even use the thunderbolt on the Z77 sabertooth?  Do you realize that the sabertooth does not even have two PCI 3.0 x16 lanes?  Why overpay so much, you aren't overclocking on liquid nitrogen.

With these changes, you'll have much faster ram and will also save enough to upgrade your CPU and GPU to i7-3770K and HD 7970 at the same price.

Edited by atomicmew, 11 November 2012 - 08:42 AM.


#3 Shadow209

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 11:55 AM

I don't fully agree.

Ram:
Why is the Samsung Ram, you postet better? Samsung has 11-11-11-28 timings, Corsair has 9-9-9-24, both are 1600MHz, so Corsair is faster. Corsair is high-quality especially the Vengeance series. Stay away from XMS3 though, they are often faulty, had a bad one myself, but Vengeance is fine.

Case:
A friend of mine has the Antec 300, is't a good case.
The Fractal Design Define R4 on the other hand has good ratings as well. From what i've read, seems to me, that the R4 is really silent, you might see higher temperatures, than on some other cases and maybe you can overclock a bit less, but if you want your PC to be silent, this seems to be a good choice.

Mobo:
Asrock extreme4 seems to be the most popular choice at the moment, just drop your prejudices against Asrock, they improved a lot in quality.

PSU:
I don't know this particular model, atomicmew has posted, but Seasonic usually has really good PSUs.

PCIe 3.0:
I think this is overrated. Current Graphics cards don't even fully utilize PCIe 2.0, even the differeces between PCIe 2.0 x16 and x8 aren't that huge. It's certainly nice to have though.

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 12:18 PM

The Samsung memory has lower voltage and overclocks extremely well.  The timings can be tightened at 1.5V so that it would be better than the Vengeance.

I should say that it barely matters unless you are using an APU anyway.  The performance benefits for faster memory speeds for a desktop with discrete graphics are almost nil.

Edited by SuperNova, 11 November 2012 - 12:21 PM.


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Posted 11 November 2012 - 03:57 PM

The only reason, I ever overclocked my memory was back on my E8500, where rising the FSB was the only possibility to overclock my CPU, so I had to overclock the Ram as well.
Now you just change the multiplier and don't need to touch the FSB. Overclocking the Ram isn't worth the time you put into it, the benefits are just too low. In fact you won't even see any difference between CL9 and CL11, unless you are doing benchmarks of course.

That said I'd take the Vengeance, because it looks better, but thats just personal preference.

#6 atomicmew

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 01:42 AM

View PostShadow209, on 11 November 2012 - 03:57 PM, said:

The only reason, I ever overclocked my memory was back on my E8500, where rising the FSB was the only possibility to overclock my CPU, so I had to overclock the Ram as well.
Now you just change the multiplier and don't need to touch the FSB. Overclocking the Ram isn't worth the time you put into it, the benefits are just too low. In fact you won't even see any difference between CL9 and CL11, unless you are doing benchmarks of course.

That said I'd take the Vengeance, because it looks better, but thats just personal preference.
People have gotten the samsung ram to overclock to 2800 Mhz.  Somewhere around 2000-2400 is probably an average overclock.  And it doesn't take a whole lot of time to get a 90% overclock - an hour of prime 95 is more than enough to prove stability.  Or run it overnight if you care.

Do some google searching, there are threads hundreds of pages long about these sticks.

Yes you are right for gaming, it doesn't make much of a difference.  For other tasks, it does.  But even still, it doesn't make sense to me to pay more for less performance, even if it's just 2-3 fps difference.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 05:04 AM

If you really like the looks of your case and it performs well then I wouldn't mind the price tag. To me the case is a biggie as you look at it all the time...vs other components where you really don't.

That aside..in term of sale prices....ram...shouldn't see much of difference, relative gpu maybe 250 at the lowest.

I think micro center had the 3570k at 169...i got mine at 189 there and I know they lowered the price...but i don't see it going much less than the 169. The 50 dollars off mobo and cpu combo at mc is the real deal. I find  it hard to advise high end mobo's for ivy..all you really gain are a lot of features you most likely will nvr use. The oc potential gained from a high end board is somewhat lost by ivy's ....hmm let's say heat limitation cliff...where if the chip reaches the failing point..the board nor cooler will make any difference. Since the 100 dollar board is capable of running the chip to the ledge just like the high end..what's the difference?..in terms of looks...once you put in your cooler/ram/gpu/connections the mobo is mostly hidden

hdd..... wd caviar blacks are nice...sale price maybe 70 bucks...ssd's will most likely go 50cents per gig....65 for vertex4,830, etc

monitors should be the the components with most sale possibility... but coming from 1680x1050 a 1900x1200 may just feel more natural to ya....ips and pls are all the rave atm but come with substantial price tags...catleap and...forgot the other one (google search it) are direct from china cheaper alternatives which have gained relative acceptance.

The xfx pro 650 is manufactured by seasonic.....Ive seen that one for 55 bucks and the 750w version for 65.

The nh c-14 tbh I don't know bout the sale prices on enough....I know it works surprisingly well for a horizontal model...even with only 1 of the 2 fans. It will definitely draw your eyes attention, but tbh it's not really gonna increase your oc potential on an ivy that much over a 30 dollar cooler...whole point of no return deal and all..it will however run quieter and keep cpu cool during reg usage.

note* if bit confused by what im talking about in terms of ivy...for example sandy when u oc you could raise it a lil raise it a lil more and eventually it would start to taper off and you'd throttle it back....but with ivy there's a point where once you hit that point no fancy high dollar mobo nor cooler is gonna do any better than a cheaper yet capable model....looking at u d14 and 212+

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 05:35 AM

Was looking at some 1920x1200 monitors, and what a price difference from a 1080p.

Going to wait and check again by the end of this week.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 04:08 PM

Well I've decided on a 1920x1200 monitor, so I cutback on a few things.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/nsXM

Took out windowed R4 for regular one. Replaced Motherboard.

Also, outside of CPU, I don't plan on overclocking anything else.

What do you guys think on the changes?

Also, is it black friday or cyber monday that I should be looking forward too?
(I'll be ordering everything online except the CPU/MB)

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 05:27 PM

Also, just when is Black Friday or Cyber Monday?   :)




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