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[Smallwalk]

I cant believe that Anet allows to use 5 accounts at same time. Isn't sharing your account data against game rules? WvW vs <NOPE> few guys running a zerg aka <NOPE> multobox bot zerg (yes we even mad a name to it) Some players keep saying its legal. To me this is bigger cheating than actual bots without human control. For me, game rules means player uses one account and on character per time. Or heck, change the game tittle into Geek wars 2. Anet keeps deleting all posts concerning multiboxing in wvw. What you guys think of this?

Edited by Leyana, 12 November 2012 - 05:29 AM.
Don't defame

[yahikodrg]

it all depends on how the multi-box, but during BC and wrath I remember a elemental shaman who would multi-box 5 elemental shamans for 5v5s and Blizzard had no problems with that form of multi-boxing and they were all his accounts. Most game companies don't see multi-boxing as a problem because it just means more copies of the game being sold.

[Lordkrall]

Smallwalk, on 12 November 2012 - 05:20 AM, said:

I cant believe that Anet allows to use 5 accounts at same time. Isn't sharing your account data against game rules? WvW vs <NOPE> few guys running a zerg aka <NOPE> multobox bot zerg (yes we even mad a name to it) Some players keep saying its legal. To me this is bigger cheating than actual bots without human control. For me, game rules means player uses one account and on character per time. Or heck, change the game tittle into Geek wars 2. Anet keeps deleting all posts concerning multiboxing in wvw. What you guys think of this?

As long as a human player is actively playing the account there are no rules against it.
If someone is capable of controlling five characters at the same time I see no trouble.

There is NO rule about only using one account at the same time.

Edited by Leyana, 12 November 2012 - 09:47 PM.
No

[Valkaire]

Lordkrall, on 12 November 2012 - 05:29 AM, said:

As long as a human player is actively playing the account there are no rules against it.
If someone is capable of controlling five characters at the same time I see no trouble.

There is NO rule about only using one account at the same time.

Except those 5 characters are linked by a program. What you do on one character the program tells the other 4 copies of the game to do. It's essentially player controlled botting.

Edited by Valkaire, 12 November 2012 - 05:32 AM.

[Shiftedgw2]

Valkaire, on 12 November 2012 - 05:32 AM, said:

Except those 5 characters are linked by a program. What you do on one character the program tells the other 4 copies of the game to do. It's essentially player controlled botting.

Not really, the program is a repeater which is very different from a bot. The player has to actively control all 5 characters, which is different from going to sleep and waking up to a bag full of farmed materials. "Multiplying" keystrokes could even be done mechanically though it would be a headache.

For example, if you're really nuts you could get 5 computers setup and wire their keyboards in a way that pressing the "O" key on a single keyboard transmits it to all 5 computers, without ever using a program to do it.

Edited by Shiftedgw2, 12 November 2012 - 05:39 AM.

[Juici Fruitz]

there is a post floating around some where from Anet re multiboxing and their stance on it,

here is a link to their post.   https://forum-en.gui...irst#post427869

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Hi everyone.
Multiboxing is not allowed in Guild Wars 2 and you can help us stopping them by correctly reporting via the in-game reporting tools. Thanks for your collaboration!

[yahikodrg]

Juici Fruitz, on 12 November 2012 - 05:41 AM, said:

there is a post floating around some where from Anet re multiboxing and their stance on it,

here is a link to their post.   https://forum-en.gui...irst#post427869

good to see ArenaNets stance is different than Blizzards just for a future reference what would we report them as? Botting? even though multi-boxing isn't the same as botting

[dawdler]

Shiftedgw2, on 12 November 2012 - 05:37 AM, said:

Not really, the program is a repeater which is very different from a bot. The player has to actively control all 5 characters, which is different from going to sleep and waking up to a bag full of farmed materials. "Multiplying" keystrokes could even be done mechanically though it would be a headache.

For example, if you're really nuts you could get 5 computers setup and wire their keyboards in a way that pressing the "O" key on a single keyboard transmits it to all 5 computers, without ever using a program to do it.

You are contradicting yourself there... The player is only actively controlingl 1 character, the rest are repeating what he does. Thus the player does not activly control all 5 characters. You are by the very definition of "botting" automating the inputs of the 4 other characters.

A player that actually has 5 computers, 5 monitors, 5 keyboards, 5 mice and run activly with all 5 characters at once through different zones, levels, etc... That would be awesome. Respect. Preferably also be on 5 different vent channels and talking into them all at once with his guild. Major multitasking brofist dude.

Edited by dawdler, 12 November 2012 - 06:04 AM.

[Featherman]

It is done through or with use of third party programs, such as ones that repeat actions or automates them, then it's not allowed. If it done without third party programs, such as when a player runs two different computers or runs windows twice on one computer, then they're fine with it.

Edited by Featherman, 12 November 2012 - 06:30 AM.

[1up]

I always thought Multi-Boxing was funny. It's like the person is so terrible they need extra bodies lol! Funny... CC the main boxer away from his scripted clones, and then wreck his face. Not really hard to kill a Multi-Boxer, so I don't care if people do it. I look at it as some extra badges... Noobs will try anything to win, so pathetic!

[Smallwalk]

Those ive faced deffinately third party program.

[Featherman]

Smallwalk, on 12 November 2012 - 06:15 AM, said:

Those ive faced deffinately third party program.

They're likely to be anyway. Who can honestly control multiple characters in this game efficiently other than for farming? You now what know what to do

[Lordkrall]

Valkaire, on 12 November 2012 - 05:32 AM, said:

Except those 5 characters are linked by a program. What you do on one character the program tells the other 4 copies of the game to do. It's essentially player controlled botting.

Of course. But as I said: "As long as a human player is actively playing the account".

If that is NOT the case it is of course against the rules.  It IS humanly possible to play several characters at once however.

[RandolfRa]

As long as he doesn't use any programs / tricks that aid him with the playing. Otherwise it's cheating just as much as it was cheating to run a rupt bot in gw1.
In essence: it's cheating if more than one character obeys a single keystroke.

Edited by RandolfRa, 12 November 2012 - 12:46 PM.

[Serris]

Lordkrall, on 12 November 2012 - 05:29 AM, said:

As long as a human player is actively playing the account there are no rules against it.
If someone is capable of controlling five characters at the same time I see no trouble.

There is NO rule about only using one account at the same time.

actually, arenanet has firmly stated it's against multiboxing.

the game that allows multiboxing is world of warcraft, not gw2.

[Killyox]

yahikodrg, on 12 November 2012 - 05:28 AM, said:

it all depends on how the multi-box, but during BC and wrath I remember a elemental shaman who would multi-box 5 elemental shamans for 5v5s and Blizzard had no problems with that form of multi-boxing and they were all his accounts. Most game companies don't see multi-boxing as a problem because it just means more copies of the game being sold.

I remember shaman who multiboxed 40 characters

BEsides, multiboxing = having X times as much loot from mobs and seeing as the game has no sub fee it will pretty quickly be very profitable with more accounts. Thus in case of GW2 imo multiboxing should NOT be allowed or tolerated.

[Ncyphe]

Juici Fruitz, on 12 November 2012 - 05:41 AM, said:

there is a post floating around some where from Anet re multiboxing and their stance on it,

here is a link to their post.   https://forum-en.gui...irst#post427869

In that very same thread, another person posted his email from ANet that started Multi-Boxing is not against the rules, so long as no automation software is used.

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Hello,
Thanks for contacting us! Owning and using more than one Guild Wars 2 account is not against the user agreement, as long as there is no automation. If you have any other questions or concerns about this or any other issues, please let us know.
Best Regards,
GM Mourdyth
Guild Wars Support Team
This is the reply from the support team when i emailed them asking them about multiboxing.

[DreadlockrastaGW]

I just imagined 5 thieves running around with synchronized heartseeker. I think I just shat myself.

Killyox, on 13 November 2012 - 04:18 PM, said:

I remember shaman who multiboxed 40 characters

https://www.youtube....h?v=q5mD1n4v2JA
I ll just leave this here...(think of this whenever I even hear the word shaman)

Edited by DreadlockrastaGW, 13 November 2012 - 04:38 PM.

[Killyox]

DreadlockrastaGW, on 13 November 2012 - 04:36 PM, said:

I just imagined 5 thieves running around with synchronized heartseeker. I think I just shat myself.



https://www.youtube....h?v=q5mD1n4v2JA
I ll just leave this here...(think of this whenever I even hear the word shaman)

Seen it when it was made. Started wow in 2004 and dropped in dec 2010 permanently

[Orikx]

Multiboxing without the use of software to help control the other boxes I have no problem with. It's not like it makes you as strong as two people because you have to control two at once slowing reflexes/reaction time. Though with the use of a third party program I'm not sure how I feel about that in PvP.

You'd have an easier time beating one person running 5 accounts then 5 people running 1 account because the 5 people are more flexible. So on one hand it's not giving anyone an advantage. On the other hand it could be preventing 4 others from having a chance to play because you are taking 5 spots in the queue.

[Taper]

At least we don't have to worry about this guy  http://www.twitch.tv...wow/b/338146571





yet...

[GrandmaFunk]

Ncyphe, on 13 November 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:

In that very same thread, another person posted his email from ANet that started Multi-Boxing is not against the rules, so long as no automation software is used.

There's a distinction to be made in that what they're adressing is a player owning and using more than one account, NOT a player owning and using more than one account SIMULTANEOUSLY.

you're allowed to flip back and forth between two accounts, that does not supercede the rule stating that multiboxing is not allowed.

[dawdler]

Taper, on 13 November 2012 - 05:25 PM, said:

At least we don't have to worry about this guy  http://www.twitch.tv...wow/b/338146571





yet...

Got to admit that it is sort of hardcore to spend at least $500 a month and have something like $10,000+ worth of equipment... just to multibox in World Of Warcraft.

You'd think it would be cheaper to actually pay 40 chinese people to follow you around.

[Ngamok]

Multi boxing what?

[Corvindi]

Juici Fruitz, on 12 November 2012 - 05:41 AM, said:

there is a post floating around some where from Anet re multiboxing and their stance on it,

here is a link to their post.   https://forum-en.gui...irst#post427869

Oh really?  I did not know this.  I've seen multiboxers when I'm doing PVE and haven't reported.  I will now.