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#1 frozensinx

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 06:57 AM

When buying COF armour i accidently bought the light armour version by accident instead of the heavy armour version, is there anything i can do now or is that it and i cant refund it or w/e

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:00 AM

Give it to an alt and keep farming CoF.
It sucks but there is nothing that can be done about it.
At least CoF is fast and easy to farm.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:34 AM

or you can salvage it for ecto :P

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:42 AM

Salvage and re-farm!

#5 Shadowrose

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 07:48 AM

This thread again.

#6 Evans

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:08 AM

Well now you give it to an alt and you start paying a lot more attention to what you're doing when you're trading in hard earned tokens.
This is just a logical deduction.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 08:26 AM

I've done this before, and isn't it soulbound?  I just farmed the dungeon again and got a new helm. the old one i'm going to keep for magic find or something.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 09:39 AM

Soulbound or not, you can transmutate looks over anyway.
Might be you lose out on the stats, but it's still better than salvaging imo.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 11:19 AM

View PostEvans, on 12 November 2012 - 09:39 AM, said:

Soulbound or not, you can transmutate looks over anyway.
Might be you lose out on the stats, but it's still better than salvaging imo.

You can only transmute the same armour class.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 11:37 AM

View PostShadowrose, on 12 November 2012 - 07:48 AM, said:

This thread again.

because its still an issue.  look people are making simple honest mistakes.  this is a game, why punish them for it?

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 11:42 AM

View PostLady Rhonwyn, on 12 November 2012 - 11:19 AM, said:

You can only transmute the same armour class.
That is why people say "alt" a.i. give the looks of the armor to a different character on same account that can use the light armor.

View PostRickter, on 12 November 2012 - 11:37 AM, said:

because its still an issue.  look people are making simple honest mistakes.  this is a game, why punish them for it?
Nope, not buying it, people put in time and effort into farming same dungeon for 3 times/ day for 1-2 days per piece of armor but don't care where they click their tokens away are not punished... just like some one who deleted their expensive exotic not Punished - just are careless... and you can not engineer away the carelessness of people...

... what people are asking here is a bit silly because they are asking for is to make all high end Karma/Token items into a deposit with 100% refund when you do not want your armor/weapon anymore...

Got karma armor?/weapons? Sell it back and get a refund of your karma when you out-level it... Got that 64k Karma armor? Don't like it? Refund!

Edited by Biz, 12 November 2012 - 11:48 AM.


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Posted 12 November 2012 - 11:51 AM

View PostBiz, on 12 November 2012 - 11:42 AM, said:

Nope, not buying it, people put in time and effort into farming same dungeon for 3 times/ day for 1-2 days per piece of armor but don't care where they click their tokens away are not punished... just like some one who deleted their expensive exotic not Punished - just are careless... and you can not engineer away the carelessness of people...

there can be a million things happening outside of the game that can induce unintentional carelessness.  when i play GW2 i leave the the cares of the owrld behind, its a game, its meant to be care free.  to an extent of course.

besides, a lot of people might not have all day to farm a dungeon 2-3 times.  give em a break.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 12:07 PM

View PostRickter, on 12 November 2012 - 11:51 AM, said:

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besides, a lot of people might not have all day to farm a dungeon 2-3 times.  give em a break.
I meant, they had time and energy to get the tokens, but not 10 seconds to actually look at and read the tool tip of that piece of gear. There are also like 4 versions of same piece of exotic armor, with different stats, you are most definitely meant to look at the tool tips before buying them, if not for simple "picking the armor I can actually wear" but also to get the stats you think you want.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 12:11 PM

View PostBiz, on 12 November 2012 - 12:07 PM, said:

I meant, they had time and energy to get the tokens, but not 10 seconds to actually look at and read the tool tip of that piece of gear. There are also like 4 versions of same piece of exotic armor, with different stats, you are most definitely meant to look at the tool tips before buying them, if not for simple "picking the armor I can actually wear" but also to get the stats you think you want.

This.

Don't people think to actually double check before they just click buttons?

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 12:11 PM

View Postfrozensinx, on 12 November 2012 - 06:57 AM, said:

When buying COF armour i accidently bought the light armour version by accident instead of the heavy armour version, is there anything i can do now or is that it and i cant refund it or w/e

you are f*ed :D

Edited by dynia666, 12 November 2012 - 12:11 PM.


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Posted 12 November 2012 - 12:15 PM

View PostBiz, on 12 November 2012 - 11:42 AM, said:

That is why people say "alt" a.i. give the looks of the armor to a different character on same account that can use the light armor.

Can you do that? I mean, the gear is soulbound to that one character...

View PostWordsworth, on 12 November 2012 - 12:11 PM, said:

This.

Don't people think to actually double check before they just click buttons?

There is one annoying thing that I think is a major cause for people that buy the wrong armour class: sometimes light is on top, sometimes medium is on top and sometimes heavy is on top...  If the order of the armour shown was always the same, across all merchants, I think you'd see less mistakes.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 12:15 PM

View PostRickter, on 12 November 2012 - 11:37 AM, said:

because its still an issue.  look people are making simple honest mistakes.  this is a game, why punish them for it?
No one is punishing anyone. But Anet has yet to implement a feature that let's players get away with buying mistakes.

It's dumb to be against such an implementation. I never bought something by mistake, because I double check, but I did sell a few things I realized I still wanted and was happy that the buy back option was there (and that it didn't cost more to buy it back).

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 12:20 PM

View PostBiz, on 12 November 2012 - 11:42 AM, said:

... what people are asking here is a bit silly because they are asking for is to make all high end Karma/Token items into a deposit with 100% refund when you do not want your armor/weapon anymore...


It doesn't need to be like that, it could be on a timer, say you buy the wrong armour, you have an hour to sell it back or then it's too late. If you equip the armour you can't sell back.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 12:28 PM

View PostLady Rhonwyn, on 12 November 2012 - 12:15 PM, said:

Can you do that? I mean, the gear is soulbound to that one character...

Yea you can. Safest way is to transmutate the armor to a fine quality armor you bought of the TP. It will still say soulbound but that piece you can put into the bank and picked out by another character. Then that character can again transmutate that piece of armor onto his own armor and wear it.

It takes a few stones, but it's worth it imo. It's the only way to make an armor consisting out of several order pieces too btw.
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I've made the mistake of buying the wrong karma item before. It wasn't expensive and thus no big deal.
If it had been an expensive karma item, I surely wouldn't have gone "Ooh clickety click" on it. I triplecheck these things.

Honestly if you make a mistake, that's really bad luck, but there should not be a system that taxes the game in favour of careless mistakes.

These things happen to you once and then you learn to pay attention. If circumstances make it so you can't focus, then I suggest you don't try to buy expensive stuff at that particular moment.

I'm of course not against consistency in placement of armors. I do agree that light should always be on top and heavy at the bottom.

Edited by Evans, 12 November 2012 - 12:34 PM.


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Posted 12 November 2012 - 12:29 PM

View PostEvans, on 12 November 2012 - 12:28 PM, said:

Yea you can. Safest way is to transmutate the armor to a fine quality armor you bought of the TP. It will still say soulbound but that piece you can put into the bank and picked out by another character. Then that character can again transmutate that piece of armor onto his own armor and wear it.

It takes a few stones, but it's worth it imo. It's the only way to make an armor consisting out of several order pieces too btw.

Oh, must remember that!

#21 SnowmanRelic

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 12:34 PM

I don't mean to be rude but when buying things you should really check to see its compatibility with your character.

Edited by SnowmanRelic, 12 November 2012 - 12:34 PM.


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Posted 12 November 2012 - 12:42 PM

View Postskeletorpedo, on 12 November 2012 - 12:20 PM, said:

It doesn't need to be like that, it could be on a timer, say you buy the wrong armour, you have an hour to sell it back or then it's too late. If you equip the armour you can't sell back.
Yeah, it could, but from what I gather Anet were thinking that "soul-binding" as well as "one way currency" with karma will be all the "security" or "abuse control" they need. Inserting individual tracking of purchases or timers on items... would be messy.

Edited by Biz, 12 November 2012 - 12:42 PM.


#23 Sothis

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 01:13 PM

Just a confirmation window would be nice. Because it happened to me that i have double clicked by mistake while checking stat.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 01:38 PM

ArenaNet already hold players hand on way too many things, if you chose to randomly buy the armor without reading the *ing tooltip, it is entirely your fault and you should be punished by having to run the boring dungeon again.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 01:45 PM

View PostBiz, on 12 November 2012 - 11:42 AM, said:

That is why people say "alt" a.i. give the looks of the armor to a different character on same account that can use the light armor.


Nope, not buying it, people put in time and effort into farming same dungeon for 3 times/ day for 1-2 days per piece of armor but don't care where they click their tokens away are not punished... just like some one who deleted their expensive exotic not Punished - just are careless... and you can not engineer away the carelessness of people...

... what people are asking here is a bit silly because they are asking for is to make all high end Karma/Token items into a deposit with 100% refund when you do not want your armor/weapon anymore...

Got karma armor?/weapons? Sell it back and get a refund of your karma when you out-level it... Got that 64k Karma armor? Don't like it? Refund!

well that's not necessarily the case.. if you've been watering at the mouth and playing for hours on end.. I can see clicking the wrong set on accident- a buyback wouldn't hurt anything- they are just getting what they wanted in the first place =]

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 02:02 PM

What's 'caveat emptor' in Tyrian?

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 02:08 PM

View PostSothis, on 12 November 2012 - 01:13 PM, said:

Just a confirmation window would be nice. Because it happened to me that i have double clicked by mistake while checking stat.

I understand, but where do you draw the line? What is rare or expensive enough to warrant a confirmation? what if that which is a safety net for some turns out to be a huge annoyance to many.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 02:12 PM

I agree that people should be more careful, but since karma items are soulbound, why don't they just hide armor that you can't wear from the shop?  Or separate the items you can't use onto another shop tab?

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 02:27 PM

View PostEvans, on 12 November 2012 - 02:08 PM, said:

I understand, but where do you draw the line? What is rare or expensive enough to warrant a confirmation? what if that which is a safety net for some turns out to be a huge annoyance to many.
Here's the thing. When you equip a Bind on Equip item there is a confirmation window that asks if you are sure. Buying a piece of gear with dungeon tokens is the exact same thing, it creates a piece of gear that is soulbound to your character. I can only assume you're against that confirmation as well since it's the exact same thing. Or the buyback window on merchants. Or the confirmation of any purchase with gems. Both World of Warcraft and Rift to my knowledge put in features that allowed players to re-sell gear they mis-purchased (provided you didn't equip or enchant it) and allowed you to even trade Bind on Pickup equipment (raid gear essentially) within 30 minutes of it being dropped. This was a result not only of mis-clicks, carelessly, or whatever you may call it, but the developers themselves wanting to reduce the number of support issues they had to be deal with where the issue came up. How many times a day do you think Anet gets a support message asking for their dungeon tokens back because of this? They would be saving themselves a lot of time.

Personally I have a twitch and in many a game in the past I've accidentally clicked on things one too many times leading to some rather negative results. Heck even just making fine adjustments for jumping puzzles and dodge rolling off cliffs as a result lead me to disable the double-tap feature. If such a safety net feature would be annoyance to some Anet could do the logical thing; make it an option. Options are rarely a bad thing when it comes to customization.

View PostUhhsam, on 12 November 2012 - 02:12 PM, said:

I agree that people should be more careful, but since karma items are soulbound, why don't they just hide armor that you can't wear from the shop?  Or separate the items you can't use onto another shop tab?
Rift does the hide armor thing, they make it an option at the merchant to view items you can and cannot equip, or rather, items that aren't meant for your class. Great feature.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 02:29 PM

Arenanet does not have to do or change anything. Learn to read. You can cure ignorance but you sure can't cure stupid.




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