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#1 XgreatArtist

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 08:25 AM

This question had been bugging me ever since i met this asura who says he is much better off playing without a guild, saying he wanted to treat gw2 as a single player etc etc

Now that many of us had reached lv 80 and probably have 1 or 2+ lv 80s, full exotics etc etc, how many people actually didnt join a guild/or left forever and still play the game? I find guilds to be connecting all sorts of people together so i am very curious to know why some people choose not to join guilds.

Note: this does not apply to a total newbie starting the game and knowing no one, but people who are 'veterans' or played for a decent amount of time.

#2 Darkobra

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 08:57 AM

Some people like to avoid the drama or the community. Some people want to feel immersed in the game itself and the world and talking to real people can break you away from it. It's like when I play Skyrim, I turn off all my messengers. Because someone telling me that there's this fat dude at work that when he bends over you can see his crack REALLY takes me out of my dungeon crawling.

I'm quite the opposite as I run my own guild with my friends, their friends and I let it grow naturally.

#3 Baron von Scrufflebutt

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 08:58 AM

I honestly do not see a single reason why a person wouldn't join (or simply create a one-man) guild.
While playing, players gain influence which can then be spent on upgrades that aren't obtainable though other means. Since influence is a guild-related exclusive currency, one isn't giving up anything by spending it on guilds.
Guilds, if for no other reason make sense at least for the boosters/storage.


EDIT:
It just hit me, since players can be part in 4 guilds at a time, wouldn't it be possible to create 4 guilds, obtain 100 slot storage in all of them and that grants you an additional 400 storage space?

Edited by Protoss, 13 November 2012 - 09:01 AM.


#4 Wordsworth

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:01 AM

View PostProtoss, on 13 November 2012 - 08:58 AM, said:

EDIT:
It just hit me, since players can be part in 4 guilds at a time, wouldn't it be possible to create 4 guilds, obtain 100 slot storage in all of them and that grants you an additional 400 storage space?

Yes, after 10 years.

#5 Lordkrall

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:02 AM

I made my own guild and I am happy with that.


View PostProtoss, on 13 November 2012 - 08:58 AM, said:

EDIT:
It just hit me, since players can be part in 4 guilds at a time, wouldn't it be possible to create 4 guilds, obtain 100 slot storage in all of them and that grants you an additional 400 storage space?

Don't think it is possible to be leader for more than one guild, and without a leader the guild disbands.

#6 Baron von Scrufflebutt

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:05 AM

View PostWordsworth, on 13 November 2012 - 09:01 AM, said:

Yes, after 10 years.

I am actually thinking more in the lines of making a secondary guild - our guild really has nothing to spend the influence on, so maxing storage in the primary guild and the moving onto the second one, unlocking more storage seems like something that could be worth looking into.

#7 B3aT

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:19 AM

I think most of the ppl that didn't joined a guild didn't joined a forum too because they don't want a community, just to play the game.
Too bad, small bunch of ppl can make a small guild w/o drama, enjoy the game and share the same goals and have more fun, but is hard to find them true :), the game encourages big zerg guilds in which the personality doesnt matter and stupid rules can ruin your weekend.

But I wonder why don't all make a guild for themselves, is just a waste of resources, you will gain influence and buff yourself just by being in your own guild ...is so easy to make one in GW2..

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:32 AM

View PostB3aT, on 13 November 2012 - 09:19 AM, said:

I think most of the ppl that didn't joined a guild didn't joined a forum too because they don't want a community, just to play the game.
Too bad, small bunch of ppl can make a small guild w/o drama, enjoy the game and share the same goals and have more fun, but is hard to find them true :), the game encourages big zerg guilds in which the personality doesnt matter and stupid rules can ruin your weekend.

But I wonder why don't all make a guild for themselves, is just a waste of resources, you will gain influence and buff yourself just by being in your own guild ...is so easy to make one in GW2..

that was what i was thinking. But maybe they might feel being alone in one guild is really terrible. <---no offense to others

Edited by XgreatArtist, 13 November 2012 - 09:32 AM.


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Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:35 AM

the only purpose of guilds is providing buffs, I don't see why anyone wouldnt want to join a guild. Ideally join 3-4 guilds with many people grinding for influence and then alternate between them for 24/7 karma/gold buff :)

#10 Heart Collector

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:54 AM

I started the game intending to never join a guild, but ended up being in one anyway... I don't even try to be social in these games as I'm a shy person but it just seems to happen. And as a bonus I got my RL buddy to get the game and we're having a blast leveling together, yay! :D

#11 Redhawk2007

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 12:02 PM

Joining guilds tends to kill games for me, as my experience has been people tend to butt into my business, or just generally interfere with my game play while putting demands on me. I have a strong sense of honor so I always feel I have to put in more than I take out of the guild, so avoiding them frees me from any sense of obligation.

I have two storage guilds so far with 50 slots each and am working on a 3rd. Always a good idea to have your own guild if you don 't like the group scene in games due to the storage it gives you and also so people will stop bugging you to join a guild.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 01:07 PM

My fiance and I are currently unguilded. We were in one for a bit when the game first launched. We had to take a long break (stopped the end of September and started back up on Halloween) and got understandably kicked from the guild. Now we have been ignoring invites because it has been fun just playing together without other people asking us to join them on things. Eventually we will join a guild, but even if we're missing out on stuff it is nice for now to not deal with anything that comes with a guild.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 01:09 PM

View PostB3aT, on 13 November 2012 - 09:19 AM, said:

Too bad, small bunch of ppl can make a small guild w/o drama, enjoy the game and share the same goals and have more fun

I have a very small guild that I'm letting grow naturally.  We have about 7 or 8 members, an allied guild and an honorary guild member.  We're all friends from SWTOR so that really helped but you are right, a small guild shares the same goals, is very close and personal with each other and enjoys that friendship.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 01:40 PM

One - you can be the leader of several guilds at once.

I wish more people actually grouped up in guilds - later we get so many unguilded people pugging dungeons, being bad at them and then crying in the forums how unbalanced or hard all the dungeons are...

@down - my bad, poor wording. I meant 'people who don't group up into guilds but choose to be guildless'.

Edited by drkn, 14 November 2012 - 11:58 AM.


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Posted 13 November 2012 - 02:16 PM

My guild does nearly everything together, we have 0 drama, and have a great group of friends that are there for people and have been for years. Our vent is full of laughter, and we have a real tight knit group.

We have been going strong for years now, and the main reason we have such a strong community is that we actually take the time to find people who value the same principles. Yes, so does your guild, but not in the way we do it, I guarentee that.

99% of people just join guilds for what they can get out of it, and even though most think they want a social guild, they don't really honestly do.

That doesn't mean my guild is some kind of cult, or crazed group of losers, it just means we genuingly enjoy creating friendships with others and playing with others, and joined for that very purpose.

For six years we have retained members for this length. When I see posts talking about "perks", or what people can get out of guilds, followed by complaints about the community I just face plant. If you can't see why you're meeting *s when you're joining guilds built around selfish needs, then you deserve that type of community.

P.S Complaining about people not grouping up in your guild, is like admitting your a fail leader. Not being rude, just being honest. Kick those who don't want to group, because they are not guild material.

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Edited by TheHidden01, 13 November 2012 - 02:17 PM.


#16 Kratimas

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 02:31 PM

I am in two different guilds and I have a blast in both of them.

I can play solo if I want or get into a dungeon run quickly and know the people I am running with know what they are doing, or will tell us ahead of time they don't know and we will teach them along the way.

If you like to PUG you can still do that even when you are in a guild.

I really can't see where you could "benefit" from not being in a guild.

But to each his own, I guess.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 02:49 PM

Not sure why people are so afraid of social aspects in mmos, especially GW2.  Seems too many take their past experiences from other games and apply them to GW2.  I am in a guild but it's kinda dieing out now and people haven't been as active.  Still I have other non-guild friends I play with anyway.  Just haven't been playing much lately, been busy.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 02:53 PM

I don't join guilds because there are times I want to be social and times (like this past week in fact) when all I want is to go my merry solo way.  I feel much freer to play the game as I enjoy it based on how I'm feeling that week than I would if I were in a guild.  And it's my fun time, so I'm going to enjoy it to the fullest.

#19 Blackdeathteal

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 03:18 PM

I was very anti guild till all my friends quit and i joined a guild on a whim
think it as pure luck but the guild i joined are very social and easy going ran quite a few dubgeons and actually havving fun again

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 03:40 PM

My guild consist of just me, I'm slowly working my way toward gettin a guild stash for extra storage.
I play solo, and I don't like socialising online, so there's no reason for me to join a guild with other people. I treat GW2 like a single player game, where occasionally you run into some one, do an event togeher, and then never see eachother again.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 03:45 PM

I'm part of a small guild made up of people who were already friends in real life or were friends of friends. There's no pressure about how much time we spend in the game, or problematic interactions with strangers, so a lot of the things people list as the negative aspects of guilds don't apply to us, even though I'm a guild member.

I think that often finding the right guild can be difficult. People try a guild out and it doesn't work for them for whatever reason - usually just a mismatch of expectations - and decide that the issue is guilds period, rather than just that one particular guild didn't meet their needs. I think there would be a guild out there that could work for just about anybody, but what different people need is different, so no one guild is going to suit everybody. It's just a matter of looking until you find one that works.

#22 Golvellius

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 03:46 PM

I've made my own little guild...if you can call it that.  The 2 or 3 people that I play with, plus my wife and my sons are in it.  Though, we don't look at ourselves as a guild.  We just play the game.

I'm not sure why I'm not more of a guild person.  I guess it's more a reflection of me in RL.  I'm not an antisocial, quiet, keep to myself, shy person - but I do like the social aspect of my life to be on my terms.  I hate when people show up to my house unexpectedly, I shudder when I get that random phone call from a person I haven't seen in 7 years...and they want to do lunch, and I don't like being "coerced" into group activities.

When I play GW, I like to log in and wander around.  Pick a spot and go quest there with the wife and kids.  If my buddy shows up or wants me to run a dungeon, we do that.  But generally speaking, I don't align with the large party atmosphere of a lot of people running together.  I do enjoy fighting alongside crowds and adventuring with strangers, but I like to nod and be on my way when it ends.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 03:55 PM

Started in a guild of a group that predates GW2, but soon realized that there was no point to subjugating my "influence" earn to the whim of others, and seeing that every member was basically soloing anyway...and thus became the Sultan of Swing of my own....interestingly enough, I've never recruited or even solicited additions, but have somehow managed to acquire 2 additional members...oh and I did climb on the Yakhammers Initiative(see it at yaksbend.com) to provide influence for the WvW effort...

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 04:21 PM

I wouldn't play without my guild. They're all very friendly and there's no drama. If it was just me it would be painfully boring.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 04:45 PM

I play without any guild since the beginning and plan to stay like that further. I've already got that question few times, "why don't you want to join a guild?" . This game is created such way, that I can log in and do whatever I want without being afraid that I won't find people to play with and the population is quite decent so there is no problem for me at all. Each day, I meet some new people, and that became a fun as it feels more likely to be in a right Homeworld for me.  And It became quite comfortable since I can do whatever I want and not get engaged too much into inside communities and such can swallow you whole, even when you want to just play alone in a corner and not get attention.  I would rather say that I treat my whole Homeworld the way I would treat that single Guild I joined. Also Gunnar's Hold is quite good in getting randoms together, as we have public mumble and our own website, very useful at WvWvW - that is really enough for me and fulfills my needs of contribution to my community, though I do realize that I'm in a worse position than being a member of organized, active guild where you can contribute in a more efficient way. Everything comes with a price I guess ^^.

#26 redcomyn

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 04:55 PM

I also treat this as a single player game. As far as I am concerned, other players who are fighting the same mobs or DE's as I am, are just other npc's. I have no interest in chatting with them. In fact I almost never even look at my chat box. I'm here to play a game, not associate with people I don't know and don't care about. Friends are for real life, not in a virtual life.

Don't get me wrong, though. If I happen to catch someone saying something to me, which I do occasionally, I will be polite and answer back, maybe even have a brief casual conversation. But then I move on and do my own thing.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 06:54 PM

As of right now, there is little reason to join a guild, all it is is a social hub, there might be bigger incentives after they release Guild Halls or some sort of GvG type combat (or hell, extra goodies in the Guild Hall, somewhere along the lines of Shining Force Exa castle upgrades)

other than that, I guess the only reason you'd want to join a guild is if your friends are there or if you like talking to people

#28 Raani

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 08:38 PM

I've chosen not to join a guild. I'm quite simply not a very social person.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 08:45 PM

I've been playing since BWE1, and have never joined a guild. And i didn't think it was interesting until launch when i had to explain it several hundred thousand times.

I like not having to cater to anyone.

I like being able to afk/ignore everything and not feel guilty that someone in /g is asking something stupid.

I like the feeling of belonging to myself, that I'm no one else's.

Plus, I feel there are far too many guilds in the beginning of a game that will just die.  I doubt The Legion of Balding Cupcakes is going to last forever.

I'll run around with in-game friends, but at the end of the day, it's just me.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:12 PM

I'd say 90% of guilds are nothing more then a chat filter.




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