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T1: SBI vs. JQQ vs. SoS - Old Foes & New Blood


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#391 two maces

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 03:04 AM

View PostVanu4life, on 20 November 2012 - 02:31 AM, said:

Saying a guild has 400+ members isn't the same as saying a guild has 400+ actives.  If PRX is filling up one BL that's a good indicator that they have 100 actives or less.

You dont expect 400 actives to occupy 1 time zone do you?

#392 Kurthos

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 03:06 AM

Shout out to FOO of JQ. Those guys are always fun to fight against and you'll find them online any time of day, no matter what the map looks like.

Enjoyed out skirmishes on JQ BL :)

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#393 jarcus

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 03:19 AM

View Postbieberfanxoxo, on 19 November 2012 - 11:22 PM, said:



I'm sorry but I don't consider just making tier 1 the requirement for top server/guild/alliance. AA consistently gave up against odds, quit 24hour matchups entirely and never showed the constant effort or pressence they put in when they were in tier 2. TBH I think they had the numbers and guilds to be one of the top, but the problem is, if they couldn't have first they didn't even care about second or putting up any kind of a fight, they just quit, and that's not top, that's pathetic.

This was not the sentiment of all guilds within the AA.  Also, your mention of ruin before staying in EB, it was an attempt to keep them contained to one BL so that they did not create que's in every single BL due to their size.

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#394 Vanu4life

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 03:26 AM

View Posttwo maces, on 20 November 2012 - 03:04 AM, said:

You dont expect 400 actives to occupy 1 time zone do you?

PRX is a NA guild.  They don't have a significant off hours EU/Oceanic presence.  I'm sure like all hardcore WvW guilds they have a handful of EU/Oceanic/NA who play all hours, but saying or implying they have 400+ active WvW members doesn't sound true at all.

Current roster does not equate to current actives.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 04:36 AM

View PostVanu4life, on 20 November 2012 - 03:26 AM, said:

PRX is a NA guild.  They don't have a significant off hours EU/Oceanic presence.  I'm sure like all hardcore WvW guilds they have a handful of EU/Oceanic/NA who play all hours, but saying or implying they have 400+ active WvW members doesn't sound true at all.

Current roster does not equate to current actives.

They fill a zone during NA. About 15 during Oceanic.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 05:33 AM

View PostThe Lady In Red, on 20 November 2012 - 04:36 AM, said:

They fill a zone during NA. About 15 during Oceanic.

Guess the matter is settled then.  WvW maps cap at around 100 per server per map.  Assuming PRX makes up 100% of a map, it's safe to assume that they are running 100 people strong at best.  If they had a roster of 400+ very active, they would be covering more than one zone during NA.  If they had a wide range of timezone coverage they would be putting up more than 15 during Oceanic.

#397 Stovokor X

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 05:33 AM

Seem like the primary fallout of this T1 match-up actually affected T2. Feel bad for Blackgate, opportunist jumping ship to a leader.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 05:46 AM

View PostStovokor X, on 20 November 2012 - 05:33 AM, said:

Seem like the primary fallout of this T1 match-up actually affected T2. Feel bad for Blackgate, opportunist jumping ship to a leader.

How so?  IoJ lost a couple guilds three weeks ago and after SoS beat them two weeks ago, they lost several more.  SoR seems to be having similar issues since they first played SoS.

Are you saying SBI guilds are leaving to join Blackgate?

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 05:49 AM

View PostVanu4life, on 20 November 2012 - 05:46 AM, said:

How so?  IoJ lost a couple guilds three weeks ago and after SoS beat them two weeks ago, they lost several more.  SoR seems to be having similar issues since they first played SoS.

Are you saying SBI guilds are leaving to join Blackgate?
No, Blackgate guilds left to join T1 servers.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 05:59 AM

View PostBeastgate, on 20 November 2012 - 05:49 AM, said:

No, Blackgate guilds left to join T1 servers.

That happened last match during last week though.  DiE said they left BG during last match and noted that many of their members are transfer blocked from coming to SoS.  SBI got a BG guild last week as well.  I wasn't aware that more BG guilds are still leaving.

Who else has left since the start of this T1 match between SBI JQ SoS and where are they going?

#401 MisterSin

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 06:50 AM

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#402 Kurthos

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 07:34 AM

I love the amount of pressure JQ and SoS keep trading on the JQ BL. Every night its a different engagement and it makes this match very enjoyable.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:04 AM

View PostVanu4life, on 20 November 2012 - 05:59 AM, said:

That happened last match during last week though.  DiE said they left BG during last match and noted that many of their members are transfer blocked from coming to SoS.  SBI got a BG guild last week as well.  I wasn't aware that more BG guilds are still leaving.

Who else has left since the start of this T1 match between SBI JQ SoS and where are they going?

no one left except those ex TA  they just try to find excuse

what is score now btw ?

#404 Saruon

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:14 AM

Score:
SoS-124,893 +215+SM
SBI-83,099 +345
JQ-82,899 +135

#405 PunNyJR

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:19 AM

sound like Real Wm is coming. u should be careful now ;)

if u get swept u will lose morale for the rest of week and they can take the Lead back

#406 Stovokor X

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:23 AM

View PostPunNyJR, on 20 November 2012 - 08:19 AM, said:

sound like Real Wm is coming. u should be careful now ;)

if u get swept u will lose morale for the rest of week and they can take the Lead back

The 300 + tick was due to North American timezone. Not sure if Asians are getting involved this week, haven't seen turnout up to now. But whatever happens i doubt fractals will have pull for 2 weeks running.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 08:37 AM

View PostPunNyJR, on 20 November 2012 - 08:19 AM, said:

sound like Real Wm is coming. u should be careful now ;)

if u get swept u will lose morale for the rest of week and they can take the Lead back

Whether SoS comes in first or second, it is still a win for this server considering where we came from.The only thing WM and the off-hours crew of an enemy server provides is something to defeat, which we've been apt to conquer in times past. Bring it on.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:59 AM

I think you guys left a Daish on our server, could you please come pick him up? That'd be great

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:09 AM

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:21 AM

View Postshoesbags, on 20 November 2012 - 09:59 AM, said:

I think you guys left a Daish on our server, could you please come pick him up? That'd be great

Oh dear..

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 10:33 AM

View Postshoesbags, on 20 November 2012 - 09:59 AM, said:

I think you guys left a Daish on our server, could you please come pick him up? That'd be great
omigod, we are SO SORRY.

..finders keepers.

#412 Flake

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 12:08 PM

The fights on JQBL were insane tonight =/  Damn you with that defence at bay =(

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 01:29 PM

View PostHerr_Gebrechen, on 20 November 2012 - 02:51 AM, said:

No, I'm not related to MMAC or their followers in any way. I just liked how they organised that bunch of randoms in JQ borderlands in T2 fights. We as a small pvp/wuvwuv oriented guild from germany searched for a server with a 24/7 coverage because some of have strange working times and Desolation (the server we had since the 2.bwe) was not what we had hoped for. So we searched for an us server with a great community and JQ, SBI and Maguuma where ranked top in our list in the end.
JQ community is still great and that's one reason to stay there and it doesn't matter where this may end or where JQ is going.
But I really don't think that flame wars on the community side are necessary. There are some things that won't change and that's where mods should do their work.

- there will be people who really dislike each other. That's ok, but it's not wise to choose a side as a community moderator.
- there will be a horde of winning team joiners if servers are nice/successful/large/popular - you gotta live with that
And this a good community has to face. I still don't know why some of the "original" guilds were leaving JQ just because of some different views between guilds or alliances - I stopped reading those threads because it was wasted time.

And last but not least. JQ has some awesome guilds, many of them were on JQ long before me, some came by later and some just suck, but it's easier ignoring some things then investing time in flame wars - you don't have to like anyone in a game and some people turn to idiots by gaining to much e-fame and that where a slight "I don't care, I do my stuff" helps.

That's a great attitude to have.  I would like to invite you back to check out jadequarry.com now.  See if it has changed for the better, if it hasn't then comdemn it.  We are doing good things over there and have a lot better communication than we have had since the game started.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:08 PM

OMG JQ in JQ Borderlands last night. You guys put up such a strong fight it was insane. how many times we gonna trade woodhaven LOL

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:16 PM

View PostFlake, on 20 November 2012 - 12:08 PM, said:

The fights on JQBL were insane tonight =/  Damn you with that defence at bay =(

That was an AMAZING fight. From all of MERC that was super fun and well deserved

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:20 PM

View Postshoesbags, on 20 November 2012 - 09:59 AM, said:

I think you guys left a Daish on our server, could you please come pick him up? That'd be great

Uh no.  He will lead you to greatness. ;)

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:36 PM

View Postwrek, on 20 November 2012 - 02:20 PM, said:

Uh no.  He will lead you to greatness. ;)

Lol he has been calling us, and all commanders idiots. wish he would stop doing that. We defend the SBI garrison for a reason, Damn DiE, got our fully upgraded Garrison. :(

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:40 PM

To everyone on SoS, it has been a fun ride from Tier 4 to Tier 1.

Congratz to the whole server.

For those who have been on SoS since day 1, for those who joined SoS in Tier 4, Tier 3, Tier 2 we could not have done it without you.

The best match so far was against SoR in Tier 2, sorry to say it but Tier 1 has been a let down, more talk here but less good play.

SoS has a great community if you are considering moving here understand we are trying to build a great community not become the flavor of the week.

Daish Daish Daish was part of our slightly different community and will be missed.

Edited by Bina, 20 November 2012 - 02:42 PM.


#419 CalmLittleBuddy

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 02:56 PM

View PostBina, on 20 November 2012 - 02:40 PM, said:

To everyone on SoS, it has been a fun ride from Tier 4 to Tier 1.

Congratz to the whole server.

For those who have been on SoS since day 1, for those who joined SoS in Tier 4, Tier 3, Tier 2 we could not have done it without you.

The best match so far was against SoR in Tier 2, sorry to say it but Tier 1 has been a let down, more talk here but less good play.

SoS has a great community if you are considering moving here understand we are trying to build a great community not become the flavor of the week.

Daish Daish Daish was part of our slightly different community and will be missed.

Congratz for what? It's not Wednesday yet.... and you don't know what a T1 Wednesday can do. Enjoy that feeling of whatever it is you're feeling. Just speaking from experience. 50k lead is not safe. 100k, maybe. 50k... you're in for trouble.

That being said...

You SoS kids fight hard and you bull head right through a strategy until it works. I'd hate to see your repair bills and siege costs, but man you keep coming like zombies. One other thing I've noticed is you guys focus. You target one players and burn him down before moving on. You will 10 team 1 player right in the middle of a battle, then turn and ten team another 1 player. There's no escape. Once I'd see my health drop even a spec, I'd start my defense chain, and too late 8 people standing right over me and I'm dead with no downded state. You hard target.

Great play from all sides except...

SBI????? My idols? My darlings? Where are you?

#420 Killminusnine

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 03:04 PM

That guy isn't too bright, acting like the match is over... and it certainly isn't.  SoS is on watch for any late game pushes.

View PostCalmLittleBuddy, on 20 November 2012 - 02:56 PM, said:

You SoS kids fight hard and you bull head right through a strategy until it works. I'd hate to see your repair bills and siege costs, but man you keep coming like zombies. One other thing I've noticed is you guys focus. You target one players and burn him down before moving on. You will 10 team 1 player right in the middle of a battle, then turn and ten team another 1 player. There's no escape. Once I'd see my health drop even a spec, I'd start my defense chain, and too late 8 people standing right over me and I'm dead with no downded state. You hard target.


We're obviously not "kids" but your use of that word is amusing to me.  It makes it look like you think that your server is better than SoS which might be why you guys didn't get off to a good start this weekend.  SoS isn't a bunch of zombies, we're using a combination of grind and finesse to get the job done.

Never underestimate your opponents, we didn't (and won't) underestimate you.  You might see better results if you took us more seriously as well.  Yeah?




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