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#1 Kiroshy

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 11:38 AM

Hey guys I am here to ask some doubts, I love play WvW so my build will be to WvW everytime and I am thinking what is better :

Rifle, Axe Shield - Killshot, Voley, Eviscerate etc
Rifle, Greatsword - Killshot,Hundred Blades
Greatsword, Axe Shield - Hundred Blades/Eviscerate( usual )

The builds have the focus on damage so probably I will put knight stats with berzekers .. what do you think is the better build of weapons ? Explain your opinion please and thank you !

If you know some better combos of weapons you can tell me but the focus is damage !

Edited by Kiroshy, 17 November 2012 - 11:49 AM.


#2 dawdler

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 11:56 AM

Its impossible to answer that question, since the "best" weapon depends on the build. That it focus on damage mean nothing.

Personally I use axe/mace/longbow in WvW - same as I use in PvE. I'm lazy, bleh. But I also always run with the guild in WvW so individual maximisation doesnt really matter.

Edited by dawdler, 17 November 2012 - 11:56 AM.


#3 Brand

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 01:54 PM

On my thread which contains my build, many people say they use it for PvP/WvW to great effectiveness.
It is a Greatsword/Rifle build that stacks 25 Might, and has constant Fury, good Swiftness, Bleeds, Vulnerability, healing Shouts, Condition removal, and 60% Boon duration.

Overall you get awesome damage, great conditions, very nice support, and good survivability.
It may not be the "best" as all builds are relatively balanced, but it does bring a lot more to the team than some builds and keeps your damage looking sexy. Check it out!
Remember to 5 star it and "like" it if you enjoy the build and are going to use it! ^^
I spent a lot of time on it, so any questions, concerns, and criticisms are greatly appreciated!

Edited by Brand, 17 November 2012 - 01:58 PM.


#4 Kiroshy

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 04:38 PM

View Postdawdler, on 17 November 2012 - 11:56 AM, said:

Its impossible to answer that question, since the "best" weapon depends on the build. That it focus on damage mean nothing.

Personally I use axe/mace/longbow in WvW - same as I use in PvE. I'm lazy, bleh. But I also always run with the guild in WvW so individual maximisation doesnt really matter.

Focus on great damage and is to WvW, I hate use Longbow and I am not a Pug that run with the zerg I prefer run with one party of my guild or something like it.

View PostBrand, on 17 November 2012 - 01:54 PM, said:

On my thread which contains my build, many people say they use it for PvP/WvW to great effectiveness.
It is a Greatsword/Rifle build that stacks 25 Might, and has constant Fury, good Swiftness, Bleeds, Vulnerability, healing Shouts, Condition removal, and 60% Boon duration.

Overall you get awesome damage, great conditions, very nice support, and good survivability.
It may not be the "best" as all builds are relatively balanced, but it does bring a lot more to the team than some builds and keeps your damage looking sexy. Check it out!
Remember to 5 star it and "like" it if you enjoy the build and are going to use it! ^^
I spent a lot of time on it, so any questions, concerns, and criticisms are greatly appreciated!

It is a really good build but I have a build of support shouts and I need change the way of I play so this time I will go to a direct damage build.

Edited by Kiroshy, 17 November 2012 - 04:37 PM.


#5 Bluetalon_TOG

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:56 AM

View PostBrand, on 17 November 2012 - 01:54 PM, said:

On my thread which contains my build, many people say they use it for PvP/WvW to great effectiveness.
It is a Greatsword/Rifle build that stacks 25 Might, and has constant Fury, good Swiftness, Bleeds, Vulnerability, healing Shouts, Condition removal, and 60% Boon duration.

Overall you get awesome damage, great conditions, very nice support, and good survivability.
It may not be the "best" as all builds are relatively balanced, but it does bring a lot more to the team than some builds and keeps your damage looking sexy. Check it out!
Remember to 5 star it and "like" it if you enjoy the build and are going to use it! ^^
I spent a lot of time on it, so any questions, concerns, and criticisms are greatly appreciated!

Use this build..... you wont find have many things you cant kill.

For WvW, I switch 'On my Mark' for 'Bulls Rush' but this is purely my own preference.

Edited by Bluetalon_TOG, 19 November 2012 - 01:56 AM.


#6 GSSB Lunaspike

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 12:38 AM

Conditions are a complete waste for WvW. Don't bother with them, in several instances they actually hurt you more than they would help.

You NEED a ranged weapon. Don't depend on others to bring one. It's absolutely critical that you bring a ranged weapon, especially as a warrior. Anyone that says "oh you don't need a ranged weapon" is absolutely nothing but a detriment to their team.

LB is a good choice for the aoe potential it has when you are laying siege to something. The high arc can actually be hugely beneficial in wvw, where in pve it can cause problems.

Melee options are axe/mace/great sword/hammer. That all depends on how you play. Do you play with a regular group? Do they need someone to provide CC (though why they would ask you to do it when if they did the cc you could burn the enemy down faster than almost any other profession is beyond me)?

If you are going damage, go with burst. Drawn out fights in WvW are a waste. Unless you are off looking for 1v1s (again not really helping your team, there are professions much better at supply caps) burst damage will be more beneficial to your team. (example: the ability for me to reach a siege and destroy it before the enemy can react). Not only that, consider that every person you burst from 100-0 quickly enough gives your team a bigger advantage.

Ever see someone hop/get pulled/fall from the walls and run back in? Yeah that's one more defend YOU could have killed.

Anyone that disagrees, go right ahead. Give your reasoning and I will not only provide my argument, but plenty of examples for everything I've put here.

Oh and you posted this in the PvE section, so try reposting in PvP section.

Edited by GSSB Lunaspike, 20 November 2012 - 12:41 AM.


#7 RandomErrata

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 08:16 PM

I usually run a condition warrior, mostly Sword and Sword (alternate between longbow and rifles as situation requires).

http://www.gw2db.com...ndition-warrior

The entire point of this build it to put a bunch of conditions on someone and then back off and wait for them to bleed to death while my regen keeps me up. He has two sources of regeneration (three if you like pie), a decent health buffer, a condition cleanse, an "oh-crap" button for focus fire, a banner for utility, perma-swiftness and some regen if he needs it.

I started playing this build in particular b/c of thieves (but it works well against most classes). I only have to connect a few times with my sword before a thief (or any other high damage, low health pool class) bleeds out and in most cases I can outlast a thief since in good gear my health is running 26k. The only thing this build really, really sucks against is a Necro but that can be managed if you have a longbow.

My bleeds last up to 13 seconds. I find it particularly amusing watching folk try to run away and see their health bar tick down to zero and they know there is nothing they can do to stop it b/c they already blew their one condition removal ability earlier in the fight. :)

Almost forgot to mention, bleed builds have one other nice advantage if you are roaming. The supply camp guards are vulnerable to bleeds when they are invulnerable to all other damage due to the buff. You can still take camps fairly efficiently if you have a bleed build where a non-bleed build gives you nothing much to work with.

Anyway...I've tried other builds and I like this one the best. Greatsword is also very good, of course, due to the extreme mobility it offers you. I often switch back and forth between specs when I feel I want some variety but I keep coming back to bleed builds.

#8 GSSB Lunaspike

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 08:59 PM

View PostRandomErrata, on 21 November 2012 - 08:16 PM, said:

I usually run a condition warrior, mostly Sword and Sword (alternate between longbow and rifles as situation requires).

http://www.gw2db.com...ndition-warrior

The entire point of this build it to put a bunch of conditions on someone and then back off and wait for them to bleed to death while my regen keeps me up. He has two sources of regeneration (three if you like pie), a decent health buffer, a condition cleanse, an "oh-crap" button for focus fire, a banner for utility, perma-swiftness and some regen if he needs it.

I started playing this build in particular b/c of thieves (but it works well against most classes). I only have to connect a few times with my sword before a thief (or any other high damage, low health pool class) bleeds out and in most cases I can outlast a thief since in good gear my health is running 26k. The only thing this build really, really sucks against is a Necro but that can be managed if you have a longbow.

My bleeds last up to 13 seconds. I find it particularly amusing watching folk try to run away and see their health bar tick down to zero and they know there is nothing they can do to stop it b/c they already blew their one condition removal ability earlier in the fight. :)

Almost forgot to mention, bleed builds have one other nice advantage if you are roaming. The supply camp guards are vulnerable to bleeds when they are invulnerable to all other damage due to the buff. You can still take camps fairly efficiently if you have a bleed build where a non-bleed build gives you nothing much to work with.

Anyway...I've tried other builds and I like this one the best. Greatsword is also very good, of course, due to the extreme mobility it offers you. I often switch back and forth between specs when I feel I want some variety but I keep coming back to bleed builds.

I tried a build similar to this very early on. Then I just kept running across groups with guardians, elementalist, and necromancers in it. I would pour everything I had into stacking bleeds, just to have them removed. I'm not saying it won't work, but I just didn't feel right about blowing all of my adrenaline+entire chain to have the damage negated by one low cd ability.  Since then the amount of guardians/necromancers has only increased, while I still see plenty of elementalist.

I'm glad it works for you. Maybe it's just the servers I'm against. The real issue is that condition removal is so easy, especially when it comes to fire and forget aoe condition removals. If condition removals had a longer cd, or aoe condition removals were maybe 1 or 2 professions it might be different. It's a common problem with all conditions in WvW though. It's just too easy to remove them as it is now.




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