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[fathamburger]

So not only did the people that got disconnected or bugged get screwed but people who actually got to do it, get to do it twice.

Well played Anet, well played.

[Bottoms_Up]

Mordachai1977, on 19 November 2012 - 11:49 AM, said:

No, its still just a game...

I've seen this justification a few times now in relation to this issue and I find it a bit strange. Does this argument suggest that when it comes to games we should just sit back and take whatever publishers throw at us? Apart from anything, I find it odd business practice that a company would willingly disenfranchise a proportion of their customers.

Here is a quote from Matt Witter regarding night capping in WvW:

"We feel that everyone should have the ability to contribute no matter what time of the day it is. How we’ve came to this conclusion is that no player’s time is more valuable than another. Everyone has different off peak hours for whatever reason. Players should not be punished or unable to experience and view the same content as everyone else because they play at a different time. They too are paying customers."

It seems like it is a good excuse for them to wash their hands of a problem in WvW but not a good enough reason to offer every one of their customers the same opportunity to do a "spectacular one-time world event".

Edited by Bottoms_Up, 19 November 2012 - 12:06 PM.

[McSumo]

Mordachai1977, on 19 November 2012 - 11:49 AM, said:

I logged out neat the end of the event where we lured the ancient karka back to its lair. I couldve finished the event, but unfortunately i didnt sleep well the night before and i was unable to keep my eyes open for much longer, the event was nearing 2 hours straight by then.

However, am i now outraged that i didnt get a few exotics and a 20 slot bag?  Am i going to bitch and moan because of this?  No, its still just a game and im too old to care about stuff like this. That said, you as a parent should be too, in my opinion. In fact, you stated you chose not to do the event, did you not? That implies that you technically could have been there... Why didnt you just log into your son's account and do the event for him, wake him in the morning and say: "look at what daddy got you.." ? ... that way he wouldnt have had to miss out on "all the cool stuff the kids in the US got"

As for the lag, i didnt really have any. There were just issues with rendering which caused the mobs to be invisible untill they steamrolled you.

This is something I did in fact try when I realised what he was missing out on. But after several relogs and only getting overflows where it was too late, I figured the chance was gone. Only after I had to get to bed myself, did it become apparent that some overflows were still getting it. If I had realised, just how good the rewards were, I probably would have tried to leave both accounts afk auto attacking in the hope of getting the reward. (It really was unplayable for us.) Unfortunately I had no way to know that they would offer rewards of a magnitude never before seen. In fact I was astonished by them, considering how many players were excluded from the content. We had no reason to suspect anything other than another laggy unplayable mess with mediocre to no reward.

None of this however, has any bearing on the real issue. Which is Anet not including as many as possible in content from their worldwide playerbase.

[Lordkrall]

fathamburger, on 19 November 2012 - 11:59 AM, said:

So not only did the people that got disconnected or bugged get screwed but people who actually got to do it, get to do it twice.

Well played Anet, well played.

And yet they have stated quite clearly that they are working on rewarding people that did take part of the event but for some reason got disconnected and couldn't loot/do the boss.

McSumo, on 19 November 2012 - 12:06 PM, said:

None of this however, has any bearing on the real issue. Which is Anet not including as many as possible in content from their worldwide playerbase.

I would say that doing the event at the time of highest concurrency (which means the time when the highest amount of people are logged in) was a rather good way to include as many as possible.

[McSumo]

Lordkrall, on 19 November 2012 - 12:10 PM, said:

I would say that doing the event at the time of highest concurrency (which means the time when the highest amount of people are logged in) was a rather good way to include as many as possible.

I know what concurrency is. The last I remember hearing was a peak 300K plus concurrent users, from 2 million plus accounts sold. I won't insult you, I am sure you can work out that this is a pretty small proportion. For a worldwide company, it is not good enough.

[Fenice_86]

To cut it short... Can i do this event today or not? (let's say in the next 12 hrs)
I've not been home this weekend, did not even enter in the new map 1 time.

[Lordkrall]

Fenice_86, on 19 November 2012 - 12:58 PM, said:

To cut it short... Can i do this event today or not? (let's say in the next 12 hrs)
I've not been home this weekend, did not even enter in the new map 1 time.

No. The event is over.

[Fenice_86]

Lordkrall, on 19 November 2012 - 01:02 PM, said:

No. The event is over.

Thanks

[Hellspawn2323]

Strawberry Nubcake, on 19 November 2012 - 07:30 AM, said:

Dedicated players are their priority now.  A truly dedicated player would sacrifice sleep, work and/or social life so they could be there for this once in a lifetime event.  Welcome to the new GW2!  

Maybe they could start doing finale events every 6 hours if they stopped the "once in a lifetime event that will change the world forever" stuff.  Not everybody has the luxury of being able to adjust their schedule around a video game.

I do and its great. Im in the adult industry so I make my own shedule. I Game for 6-8hrs a day watch some TV / Movies and wait around for the next cool one time event. Finally a game that catters too me.

[Eon Lilu]

Can an admin close / lock / delete this topic plz, its only going to dissapoint people that missed it already

Edited by Eon Lilu, 19 November 2012 - 03:28 PM.

[badra al duun]

Lasur Arkinshade, on 19 November 2012 - 07:56 AM, said:

The alternative to having these one time events is to either: 1) have none at all, or 2) artificially extend them/repeat them, both of which would defeat their entire purpose.

An alternative that this company used in the past, to great success, which didn't defeat any entire purpose.

Just another step backwards, imo.

[Lordkrall]

badra al duun, on 19 November 2012 - 03:32 PM, said:

An alternative that this company used in the past, to great success, which didn't defeat any entire purpose.

Just another step backwards, imo.

An alternative that this company used in an INSTANCED game. Persistent != Instanced.

[4arsie4]

Lordkrall, on 19 November 2012 - 03:34 PM, said:

An alternative that this company used in an INSTANCED game. Persistent != Instanced.

Southsun Cove is an instance, last I checked.

[Mordachai1977]

Bottoms_Up, on 19 November 2012 - 12:04 PM, said:

I've seen this justification a few times now in relation to this issue and I find it a bit strange. Does this argument suggest that when it comes to games we should just sit back and take whatever publishers throw at us?

no, but that does not mean that we should nitpick about every detail either. Ofcourse, the multiple events a day system of GW1 was far superior and yes i wouldve liked to have been able to do the content and get the rewards, but it is not such a big deal to me that i have to create a thread on a forums and rage (not referring to the OP but more as a general statement) like people tend to do these days.

[badra al duun]

Lordkrall, on 19 November 2012 - 03:34 PM, said:

An alternative that this company used in an INSTANCED game. Persistent != Instanced.

It makes literally zero difference.  The events in GW1 were generally in the non-instanced zones anyways.

[Limbo]

4arsie4, on 19 November 2012 - 03:42 PM, said:

Southsun Cove is an instance, last I checked.

How?

[My Sweet Lily]

Did it go allready? I was really looking forward to this. I got dcd yesterday.

[Gremlin]

Lordkrall, on 19 November 2012 - 11:06 AM, said:

In different "servers". It did not repeat, it just started on new overflow-servers.

Which is exactly what they did when the started the event at the time with highest concurrency.

Whatever the server problems or limitations, one thing you should never do is run something at a specific time only.
By that I mean players come from all over the world and different time zones and you must be fair to all of them.

In the UK this event kicked off at 8pm Sunday and that was fine.
How about India where it was 1am well ok that's possible.Not too useful for China Japan Australia because then your talking 3am to 6am.
that's a large part of the world that would find it difficult to play.
If all events start at 12 noon pacific time,your not going to sell many copies of the game in countries with extreme time differences to US Pacific.

If they put on a one off event that needed players in America to come online at 4 am you think they wouldn't complain.
I am convinced that anets programmers have and are doing a top notch job on the game but somewhere there is an idiot who is making some really stupid decisions..

Edited by Gremlin, 19 November 2012 - 04:32 PM.

[V1nc3mt]

I think I'm a dedicated player, i've been playing GW1 for 6 years, I've been in all BWE, and I played GW2 during the whole week end, I had to leave just before the final event. For all the time I spent on GW2 during my week end, all I had is some Crab meat, and some stuff ( not that good ) I got from the Fractals, and just from this Final event, you could have 20 slots bags and great exotics ? This is not fair, and I don't understand how people can defend ArenaNet for this.. There's been a lot of times when ArenaNet did things which were lame, and their events were almost shitty ( due to lag and things like that ), but I've always defend them, like "It's ok, it's the beginning, they still need time to buy new servers, etc" but this time.. It's just unfair, I'me just pissed against them.

( Sorry for bad english )

[Azure Skye]

I think people are getting mad they missed the event and didn't get a precursor, few exotics, rares, 20 slot bags, and stuff you wont find again. When i went i wasn't promise anything but a one time event and thats all and being a part of the community but it seem that this event is spilting the community then it already has.  Grow up, you guys weren't promised anything but a one time event. I wanted to see this event without getting any loot at all. When we got EPIC LOOTZ,everyone rages because they left in the middle of it or logged off. I genuinely loathe the people that were farming the crap out of it to get a precursor to get greedy as hell, from this 24 page thread from the official forums, https://forum-en.gui...shores/pop-drop  Suck it up, gumdrop,most of you werent promised anything at ALL.

They give us a  head start to warn us about it. https://www.guildwar.../november-2012/ I do feel sorry for the one that genuinely missed it or couldn't go because of school,work, or whatever in real life.

[Lordkrall]

4arsie4, on 19 November 2012 - 03:42 PM, said:

Southsun Cove is an instance, last I checked.

No, it is an persistent map.
Had it been instanced (as in GW1) only you and your party would be in the map, which was clearly not the case here.

[ZudetGambeous]

Lucas Ashrock, on 19 November 2012 - 10:30 AM, said:

Well, if you think switching overflow you can farm zillion ori/ancient ( an old well know exploit) , ye, Anet learn from the past. How to fail.

Just for the record this was not possible. I know because I went to help a guild group in another overflow after mine finished. No ori node, no chest for me.

[Gli]

Lordkrall, on 19 November 2012 - 04:55 PM, said:

No, it is an persistent map.
Had it been instanced (as in GW1) only you and your party would be in the map, which was clearly not the case here.

Persistent? What's persistent about logging back on after being disconnected, and finding yourself in a map with different people and all the events at earlier stages than before you were dropped from the game? Barring the explanation of everyone leaving the game while you were gone for a minute and hundreds of other people logging on to replace them, and the karka using time-travel as a mechanism to save their asses, I'm left to conclude that you logged onto a different instance.

You're confusing the concept of a 'private instance' with the more general concept.