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#1 VanderBeltLegacy

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:52 PM

i searched, couldnt find anything, so if a re-post or similar, please just delete/lock thread/direct me where to post!

now please be respectable, don't debate with some on there "hate", it completely personal OPINION, and nobody should be ridiculed for having one...and dont quote post with a "different view"/"debate" thats how arguments start, just state your hate!

also i love gw2 and it's dungeons/Explorable Areas and its beautiful world, so dont think im hater(although i LOVE gw1 so much more)

1.Starting area, now i have only seem to come across only one, 1 shot boss, in caledon forest, pretty sure it was Krait Queen or something, but watching people get 1 shoted, was a sad sight to see, and some guy who was new to the game literally said "f*** this" and hasn't been online since, i got 1 shoted on my ranger trying to rez them and the req level was only 8(before traits), leaving m ranger with an advantage over every 1 else, long bow!, so i could keep distance, and have my eye on the spells with out needing timing to dodge.,,
other bossess=tight at start of charr area, up in this cave(low level, like 4 or 5) i was on my level 18 guardian, have toughness(THANK GOD), but it's hits were massive(i had signet of judgment to negate damage as well , also it could hit that constant,  self heal couldnt recharge, and my available "heal weapon skills" couldn't over ride the damage,,,how is a low level suppose to go(we had 5 of us, and the ele was chucking heals by the end of it)..but what about low level groups with no party wide healer source, or don't have them unlocked yet?... these are the only 2 i can think of for starting area's.

2.1 Shot bosses, AC as an example, why have a req 35 dungeon for explore, where people between 25 and 59 wont have access to all traits, and add a 1 shot boss like Lieutenant Kohler (or how ever its spelt), i know it obvious/easy to me/most people to know when to evade, but sometimes you have players/terrain blocking your view, and to be fair 1 shot's are not a challenge and there not fun! and having to rez downed people, only to get 1 shoted for trying to rez them is BS, now having the damage chip off a chunk health and needing to escape back, that'd be a "challenge" instead of "crap I cant see, oh no, im down"...thats what made gw1 dungeons fun and not a "f*** this" for many players, the bosses were a challenge but had no skill's that could 1 shot any1, and if they did, at least the negates worked to counter it(I.E signet of judgement on Guardian wont negate Kohler, but in gw1 protective spirit, shield of absorption,  Union, spirit of shelter=all negated said damage), but not to much, just enough to keep people in play...i could list a whole bunch of bosses but that's pointless, as i think my example is clear enough..
note: stun breakers are said to work for KOHLER, but if you get hit before activating it, your skills are stuck in a recharge, making a stun breaker a wasted skill slot and are better of to evade)

3.Lack of armor to define classes/professions, but hey i already knew that before release, so meh!

4.Soul Bound on acquire .WTF?..my whole account should have equal rights to the stuff i loot, now soul bound on use, yeah thats cool with me, but not on acquire?.

5.Minions suck for crowd control,, now u get not wanting the gw1 repeat of minion tank armies and such, but damn at least some crowd control, i find my best option in dungeons with crowd control, is a having both war and guardian in party, so the squishy back line don't get messed up to much..so much for "no trinity system", even when i was a "hard cannon" mes, i could not crowd control without being "squishy"(traits WERE, 30 Toughness, 25 vitality and rest power(thos traits are a bad memory now, lol) and had toughness gear..PFFFFFFTTTT, yeah no trinity system, REALLY?, i mean when you claimed this anet, did you test dungeons?..at least in gw1, i could use all caster heroes and be a caster myself and not have  trinity system at all, in dungeons and normal PvE and HARD MODE(if people call it that, lol)

6.just like 5 almost, lil different, Mesmer "clones", now when gw2 was being released the idea of a clone was to trick/distract the enemy...then WHY do enemies lock on to my mes and avoid my clones?..my engineers high health thumper turret is more of distraction to enemies, and it tanks why i DPS.

7. Re-spawns sometimes happen at an accelerated  rate and some times double up, making it frustrating..worse part is..no 1 is around to even warrant such a fast re-spawn (its understandable when someone else comes to join in, but when solo)

8.Travel cost, dependant on level+distance, it should only be DISTANCE..fact from Trader Forum Way Point-AC way point, level 60 engineer=1.3 silver, level 80 mesmer=3.5 silver, now i know that's not a lot of money, but it's still BS

9.Re-Learning Traits, again not much cost, but, in gw1 it was free to toy with attributes to get a system that worked for you..now since i got what works for my mes, this was a low priority mention/hate.

10. WAS GONNA BE FIRE ELEMENTAL IN METRICA PROVINCE SKILL POINT, but i heard it got nerfed, so not worth adding..but just wanted to mention it incase some else was going to.

thanks for reading and i am interested in what you hate about the game.

Edited by VanderBeltLegacy, 21 November 2012 - 08:24 PM.


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:54 PM

I love the game, i am starting to hate the community. Puts me in bit of a bind.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:58 PM

What come to mind might strike some as a little silly, but... I want mesmers to be able to dual wield pistols. I've been pushing for it since early beta and we got no word. There are two rare exotic handguns called "Lyss" and "Ilya", the two faces of the mesmer goddess Lyssa. Experiencing all the content in the game but going "darn, I want to be using my weird magic and shoot things" took a lot out of it for me.

Other than that? My main sticking point was that female hair options are all a bit too elaborate or exotic looking. Why are there so many weird hairstyles in this game? It took forever getting out of character creation. Saints Row 2 and 3 had that problem too.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 07:00 PM

View PostMidnight_Tea, on 21 November 2012 - 06:58 PM, said:

What come to mind might strike some as a little silly, but... I want mesmers to be able to dual wield pistols. I've been pushing for it since early beta and we got no word. There are two rare exotic handguns called "Lyss" and "Ilya", the two faces of the mesmer goddess Lyssa. Experiencing all the content in the game but going "darn, I want to be using my weird magic and shoot things" took a lot out of it for me.

Other than that? My main sticking point was that female hair options are all a bit too elaborate or exotic looking. Why are there so many weird hairstyles in this game? It took forever getting out of character creation. Saints Row 2 and 3 had that problem too.

i should of added dual pistols, originally i was against this, but as of late...want it so badly for the mesmer

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 07:07 PM

Minions suck for crowd control? I find minions some of the best crowdcontrol available for necromancers. Just think about the constant cripples from golem and bonefiend, golem charge and bonefiend immobilize. It's different from gw1, but I wouldn't say it's inferior.

I also find bosses doing plenty of damage a good thing as I generally find PvE too easy.

What does annoy me though, is the way health and armor scale when fighting higher level enemies. I don't mind getting one shotted as it's my own fault for getting hit in the first place, but why does it have to take so long to kill anything more than five levels above you? I tried doing personal story about 10 levels above me at some point and the random skale I fought actually outhealed me with it's passive regen. Other than the fact it took me several minutes to actually kill anything it was easy enough and I only died like three times.

It should be difficulty that prevents me from playing higher level content, not the fact it takes ages to get anything killed, assuming the enemies can actually can be killed with the amount of damage I can dish out.

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#6 VanderBeltLegacy

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 07:24 PM

View PostYski, on 21 November 2012 - 07:07 PM, said:

Minions suck for crowd control? I find minions some of the best crowdcontrol available for necromancers. Just think about the constant cripples from golem and bonefiend, golem charge and bonefiend immobilize. It's different from gw1, but I wouldn't say it's inferior.

I also find bosses doing plenty of damage a good thing as I generally find PvE too easy.

What does annoy me though, is the way health and armor scale when fighting higher level enemies. I don't mind getting one shotted as it's my own fault for getting hit in the first place, but why does it have to take so long to kill anything more than five levels above you? I tried doing personal story about 10 levels above me at some point and the random skale I fought actually outhealed me with it's passive regen. Other than the fact it took me several minutes to actually kill anything it was easy enough and I only died like three times.

It should be difficulty that prevents me from playing higher level content, not the fact it takes ages to get anything killed, assuming the enemies can actually can be killed with the amount of damage I can dish out.

you broke first rule, dont quote people and "debate", that's how argument's start and i dont want this thread getting locked, sorry if i sound rude, i don't want to be, my english is fairly poor.

how ever i agree, minions cripples etc are great, but body block cowd control is what i was more trying to refer to.

also them doing high damage wasnt the issue, but i suspect a starter group would be 1 shotted, since my toughness traited Guardian was almost getting 2 shoted...and fair enough if you dont mind being 1 shoted, but being downed for getting hit, defeats the purpoe of "battle" was my opinion.

100% agree on health and armor scale.


also adding, i got a client crash..and was able to re-gather all close by food plant's...i shouldnt be able to do that.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 07:28 PM

View PostAsudementio, on 21 November 2012 - 06:54 PM, said:

I love the game, i am starting to hate the community. Puts me in bit of a bind.

There's a community? This is one of the biggest segmented MMO games I've played. Sad really.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 07:47 PM

Love = 95% of the game. Pretty much a masterpiece for me.

Hate:
1) Bugs. Too many bugs.
I'm patient and all but there are some constant bugs each class constantly meets and they yet need to fix them.
2) The fact most boss fights are melee-unfriendly and force you to ranged weaponry.
3) The only game available in sPvP is point-capping, gets boring fast.
4) Mystic forge in general, I just hate the whole thing.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 07:50 PM

View PostVanderBeltLegacy, on 21 November 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

1. Starting area, now i have only seem to come across only one, 1 shot boss, in caledon forest, Krait Queen

people get 1 shoted said "f*** this" and hasn't been online since.

2. One Shot bosses are not a challenge and there not fun!

3. Lack of armor to define classes/professions, but hey i already knew that before release, so meh!

4. Soul Bound on acquire .WTF?..my whole account should have equal rights to the stuff i loot, now soul bound on use, yeah thats cool with me, but not on acquire?.

5. Minions suck for crowd control.

6. Mesmer "clones", now when gw2 was being released the idea of a clone was to trick/distract the enemy.

7. Re-spawns sometimes happen at an accelerated rate.

8. Travel cost.

9. Re-Learning Traits - toy with attributes to get a system that worked for you

10. WAS GONNA BE FIRE ELEMENTAL IN METRICA PROVINCE SKILL POINT, but i heard it got nerfed, so not worth adding..but just wanted to mention it incase some else was going to.

thanks for reading and i am interested in what you hate about the game.

1. I believe Krait Queen says, [Group Event]. Group events are just that, if you try to solo one, expect to die. There are several in the game. Two of them, *shakes head*, are giant sharks. They do a ton of damage, avoid the group event with sharks.

2. Agreed. One shot (Binary) mechanics are not fun, not enjoyable and not a test of skill. They usually test players patience and connectivity.

3. Two professions get leather. One has a pet, one is using dagger. Guess their profession.  Two professions get heavy armor. One has a great sword. One has ankhs on their shoulders. Guess their professions. I think set gear helped players visually assign roles to matching armor types. Since defined roles are gone, the need for isn't as high as before. It is a step towards more homogenized look but they nothing is preventing them from adding class looks in the future.

4. Shrug, deal with it.

5. No, minions are pretty good. Know why ?  One of the primary aggro mechanics is based on lowest health pool. Guess what has the lowest HP by default?  Yep ranger pets, minions, etc. Use that knowledge to your advantage.

6. Yes and it works amazingly well in PvP and arenas. Mesmers are the strongest class in the game. They do not have a problem in pve. You will need to learn how to be effective, you may not kill as fast as others but you should never die in pve, ever once you get the basics down.

7. Some areas respawn a bit fast. Sometimes that is bad, Orr and its craziness, sometimes that is good because the npcs are just so easy.

8. If all you do is port around, you will go broke. It isn't too difficult to make more money than you spend for way points by doing events, dailies, and a dungeon/fractal. In fact, with the new loot changes allowing you to get max level items even in starter areas, I am making a good amount of money per night.

9. Use The Mists staging area. You get scaled up to 80, respecs are free, you can get all weapons, skills, traits, test builds, on target dummies, npcs and hop into arenas. See what setup you like then respec in PVE that way once.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 07:55 PM

View PostNorn Osprey, on 21 November 2012 - 07:50 PM, said:

1. I believe Krait Queen says, [Group Event]. Group events are just that, if you try to solo one, expect to die. There are several in the game. Two of them, *shakes head*, are giant sharks. They do a ton of damage, avoid the group event with sharks.

2. Agreed. One shot (Binary) mechanics are not fun, not enjoyable and not a test of skill. They usually test players patience and connectivity.

3. Two professions get leather. One has a pet, one is using dagger. Guess their profession.  Two professions get heavy armor. One has a great sword. One has ankhs on their shoulders. Guess their professions. I think set gear helped players visually assign roles to matching armor types. Since defined roles are gone, the need for isn't as high as before. It is a step towards more homogenized look but they nothing is preventing them from adding class looks in the future.

4. Shrug, deal with it.

5. No, minions are pretty good. Know why ?  One of the primary aggro mechanics is based on lowest health pool. Guess what has the lowest HP by default?  Yep ranger pets, minions, etc. Use that knowledge to your advantage.

6. Yes and it works amazingly well in PvP and arenas. Mesmers are the strongest class in the game. They do not have a problem in pve. You will need to learn how to be effective, you may not kill as fast as others but you should never die in pve, ever once you get the basics down.

7. Some areas respawn a bit fast. Sometimes that is bad, Orr and its craziness, sometimes that is good because the npcs are just so easy.

8. If all you do is port around, you will go broke. It isn't too difficult to make more money than you spend for way points by doing events, dailies, and a dungeon/fractal. In fact, with the new loot changes allowing you to get max level items even in starter areas, I am making a good amount of money per night.

9. Use The Mists staging area. You get scaled up to 80, respecs are free, you can get all weapons, skills, traits, test builds, on target dummies, npcs and hop into arenas. See what setup you like then respec in PVE that way once.
since you can read all that, how hard is it to read the rules of this topic???

1.also i USED the krait queen in a GROUP situation notice the "while rez'ing" some 1 line?

2.every 1 i team with agrees 100%

3.also you missed the point of 3. but meh, you cant even read the rules about debate quoting.

4.your response is pathetic

5.Minions, dont body block, it's that simple, when party is dealing with ranged, and have 2 melee's attacking them, it'd be nice for the minions to body block for atleast 15 or so seconds, also was about CROWD CONTROL.

6.also with a level 80 mes+100% map+all story mode dungeons, and 4/4 in AC/CM/TA, and done atleast 1-2 paths in other EXPLORE mode dungeons i think i know what im talking about when the NPC enemies ignore Clones and lock target on you and I know how to play a mesmer and killing speed wasn't mentioned since my traits are set right and kill very fast!(PvP wasnt the issue, since thats player intelligence, not AI.)

7.while agree, sometimes ur HP is low, n your self heal is in recharge, so can be frustrating.

8.Never complained it cost, just complained about price hike with higher level.

9.Good point, learn something new everyday.

Edited by VanderBeltLegacy, 21 November 2012 - 08:44 PM.


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 08:38 PM

I find it curious how you play a Mesmer yet you feel like you have no control. If your party is dealing with ranged you have shield bubbles up the wazoo with warden/focus skills/feedback. If your party is dealing with melee everything from iBerserker to Sword 3 to Dom trait (clones cripple on death) can be used to pull mobs off of your backline. You also have confusion basically on demand. What kind of party are you running with for these groups?

The clone thing you've talked about have been addressed ad nauseam in the Mesmer forums. I can only say that from the perspective of this Mesmer, I don't think it's a problem. Norn Osprey is right about getting the basics down.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 09:19 PM

View PostSteadfast Gao Shun, on 21 November 2012 - 08:38 PM, said:

I find it curious how you play a Mesmer yet you feel like you have no control. If your party is dealing with ranged you have shield bubbles up the wazoo with warden/focus skills/feedback. If your party is dealing with melee everything from iBerserker to Sword 3 to Dom trait (clones cripple on death) can be used to pull mobs off of your backline. You also have confusion basically on demand. What kind of party are you running with for these groups?

The clone thing you've talked about have been addressed ad nauseam in the Mesmer forums. I can only say that from the perspective of this Mesmer, I don't think it's a problem. Norn Osprey is right about getting the basics down.

the law's right, people, just cant wait to break RULES!!(NO DEBATE QUOTING)
i dont find i dont have "control", i dont have control over MULTIPLE targets is what i do find!!!!(curious as to how you got that notion)
wow, another person who HALF reads....WERE DEALING with the RANGE, WHILE ignoring the melee(group situation).
ever tried, to quickly snare?..you get raged at for not focusing on Target at hand, and Ibeserker, wont hit 2 half spread melee's.
dont quote traits as me, i know them already.
and this is a Love Hate, personal opinion's, not "errr BUFF/NERF" thread, CLEAR?, and to mention was one of my "9" hates...this thread is not about addressing issues, its about the things we HATE as a person, and i pt the CLEAR rules there, so people wouldnt be discouraged.
you dont see a problem with false advertisment?..the clones fail to distract NPC AI 60% of the time, unless your running GS(not everyone likes to), i have the basics down, if you read properly,you would see that(and that the idea is not to quote/post debates) and while 99% of the time this is problem, but when i'm left to  low HP boss solo, i want my clones being targeted before me while my group gets back, not have to escape and have boss health reset, since they were  STATED before release to be distraction and all...

and why even mention things i didnt?..seriously that's just..*bites tongue*

as for me, i never roll a dungeon without feedback, or decoy(break stuns/pulls/knock backs) and always use F2 with 3 clones/illusions and never stop the confusion spam...but, thats only all good, if said enemies are balled up....

also i dont think you have half a clue on "crowd control" since you responded with well, that post!

QUESTIONING the reading skills(lack of) of 4 poster's now...this is sad!!!

Seriously mods...lock/delete this thread, i made a rule fairly CLEAR..and nobody wants to listen, they just ignore it, which is sad, because every other time i have ade thing clear before posting, every1 read and respected that...this time..it's meh

Edited by VanderBeltLegacy, 21 November 2012 - 09:27 PM.


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 09:38 PM

View PostAsudementio, on 21 November 2012 - 06:54 PM, said:

I love the game, i am starting to hate the community. Puts me in bit of a bind.
4 posters, make your point 100x more valid ^-^

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 09:56 PM

Never started playing GW2, actually thought about playing it sometime next January.

Realized ANet wanted to make GW2 different from most current MMOs, yet GW1 is more different than GW2 & most MMos.

Therefore, ANet doesn't know what the &$%# they're doing, and so I really don't care.

It's complicated.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 09:59 PM

My relationship: love/wait.

There are some thing that need to evolve or change, but so far nothing has kept this from being my current favorite MMO.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:09 PM

i love it, dont hate it.  what can i say?

ive played a lot of mmos: WoW, Aion, Swtor, LotRO, Tabula Rasa, Vanguard, Perfect World, Warhammer, FFXI, Rift and The Secret World.

GW2 is better than every single one of those on that list, can anyone argue that?

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:10 PM

View PostVanderBeltLegacy, on 21 November 2012 - 07:24 PM, said:

you broke first rule, dont quote people and "debate", that's how argument's start and i dont want this thread getting locked, sorry if i sound rude, i don't want to be, my english is fairly poor.

how ever i agree, minions cripples etc are great, but body block cowd control is what i was more trying to refer to.

also them doing high damage wasnt the issue, but i suspect a starter group would be 1 shotted, since my toughness traited Guardian was almost getting 2 shoted...and fair enough if you dont mind being 1 shoted, but being downed for getting hit, defeats the purpoe of "battle" was my opinion.

100% agree on health and armor scale.


also adding, i got a client crash..and was able to re-gather all close by food plant's...i shouldnt be able to do that.

You make a giant whinge post, asking for people's opinions.
Someone replies fairly moderately, and then you call them out "that's how arguments start"?

LOLwut?

I'd have replied to you, but "I don't want to start an argument".

/thread
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:15 PM

Wow...  Kinda wished I hadn't posted on this topic at all.  It's the North Korea of threads.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:25 PM

Love the game, but hate some of the decisions being made lately.

Would also really like a lot more class build variety (probably asking too much there) and many WvW improvements.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:25 PM

I love Guild Wars 2.
I hate that I don't have more time to play it.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:51 PM

View PostRickter, on 21 November 2012 - 10:09 PM, said:

i love it, dont hate it.  what can i say?

ive played a lot of mmos: WoW, Aion, Swtor, LotRO, Tabula Rasa, Vanguard, Perfect World, Warhammer, FFXI, Rift and The Secret World.

GW2 is better than every single one of those on that list, can anyone argue that?

I could argue that depending on the kind of end game tasks you prefer some of the games on your list would be superior to GW2, see Raiding

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 11:19 PM

View Poststy0pa, on 21 November 2012 - 10:10 PM, said:

You make a giant whinge post, asking for people's opinions.
Someone replies fairly moderately, and then you call them out "that's how arguments start"?

LOLwut?

I'd have replied to you, but "I don't want to start an argument".

/thread
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Exactly this. I am going to refrain from calling OP a moron even though the title does fit snugly. Well, I suppose if I have to be on topic...

I hate people like OP who are obviously noobs that infect this game, crying about how hard this or that is, how hard that is WAAAAA WAAAAA. Also people with bad grammar. I actually wish there were more bosses like Kohler that will demolish you if you are not careful. In fact, I find Kohler one of the easiest ones because the animation is so obvious and the cast time is so long. Compared to What the Arch-Divine in fractal sometimes do, it is VERY VERY easy to dodge out of, and you can see it very obviously. Oh yeah, you don't even need to dodge. Just grab stability or some other kind of invuln and you can start picking your nose. Not to mention if you do get dragged in by Kohler you have a second or two to get out with a stun-breaker, unlike straight where mobs actually hits you once and you die instantly.

Anyways, back to what I was saying. I hate whiners like OP that force ANet to dumb down encounters to WoW levels. I want a game that is hard and challenging. I'm constantly reminded when reading of posts like this that WoW actually has tutorials for NOT STANDING IN FIRE and STAYING UNDERWATER TOO LONG DROWNS YOU and just /facepalm. Morons, those (these) kinds of people.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 11:44 PM

View PostGnomGnomGnom, on 21 November 2012 - 11:19 PM, said:

Exactly this. I am going to refrain from calling OP a moron even though the title does fit snugly. Well, I suppose if I have to be on topic...

I hate people like OP who are obviously noobs that infect this game, crying about how hard this or that is, how hard that is WAAAAA WAAAAA. Also people with bad grammar. I actually wish there were more bosses like Kohler that will 1 shot you if you are not careful. In fact, I find Kohler one of the easiest ones because the animation is so obvious and the cast time is so long. Compared to What the Arch-Divine in fractal sometimes do, it is VERY VERY easy to dodge out of, and you can see it very obviously. Not to mention if you do get dragged in by Kohler you have a second or two to get out with a stun-breaker, unlike straight 1 shots.

Anyways, back to what I was saying. I hate whiners like OP that force ANet to dumb down encounters to WoW levels. I want a game that is hard and challenging. I'm constantly reminded when reading of posts like this that WoW actually has tutorials for NOT STANDING IN FIRE and STAYING UNDERWATER TOO LONG DROWNS YOU and just /facepalm. Morons, those kinds of people.

you sir  are a *insert insult*, i was more concerned for other player's STARTING the game if you can read (i am already assuming not well), because it's obvious in the 1st post

oh grammar, HAVE A SOOK..you think im having a whine  you grammar nazi's need to get over it, not every1 got a good education or has english as their primary language, so being a WORLD WIDE game

also i STATED in 1st post, how obvious Kohler's attack is, but how things like people/pillars can OBSTRUCT your view..and AGAIN this isnt a "nerf this" thread, hard to read for you is it?, i am assuming so, so far you have not showed any capable reading skills...also in 1st POST..i said state what you hate and dont debate/argue...thats what gets threads CLOSED..*insert insult*


so again, by not reading properly, you just add to the list of *insert mental capability insult*


View Poststy0pa, on 21 November 2012 - 10:10 PM, said:

You make a giant whinge post, asking for people's opinions.
Someone replies fairly moderately, and then you call them out "that's how arguments start"?

LOLwut?

I'd have replied to you, but "I don't want to start an argument".

/thread
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your not suppose to quote ME or ANYONE who post here, thats was FIRST RULES i laid down
and if you could read, it also states...post what YOU hate, and the 1st rules were, DONT reply with DEBATE/Disagree post, for 2 reasons i had them rules 1, people dont WANT to post when some1 quotes them and picks them apart for there OPINION..
2nd reason, it starts an argument, which ALWAYS leads to a thread being locked.....

so to say i was asking for peoples opinions makes you look *insult*, because I ASKED THEM WHAT THEY HATED

am i getting through to you at all??...now wheres silent bob?..you 2 normally hang out a the quick stop together





a really big thank you to every 1 following the rules, you guys are awesome, and are the reason i have always prefered guru forums, to any other

Edited by VanderBeltLegacy, 21 November 2012 - 11:47 PM.


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 11:47 PM

View PostVanderBeltLegacy, on 21 November 2012 - 11:44 PM, said:

also i STATED in 1st post, how obvious Kohler's attack is, but how things like people/pillars can OBSTRUCT your view..and AGAIN this isnt a "nerf this" thread, hard to read for you is it?, i am assuming so, so far you have not showed any capable reading skills...also in 1st POST..i said state what you hate and dont debate/argue...thats what gets threads CLOSED..*insert insult*

the fact that you say pillars obstruct your view on kohler is surprising because one of the ways to avoid his pull is to get behind one.

derp

Edited by GnomGnomGnom, 21 November 2012 - 11:49 PM.


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 11:48 PM

View PostVanderBeltLegacy, on 21 November 2012 - 11:44 PM, said:

your not suppose to quote ME or ANYONE who post here, thats was FIRST RULES i laid down

Sorry, if you say something really stupid, having the quote there helps people know what to laugh about.


(see what I did there?)

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 11:54 PM

View PostStormDragonZ, on 21 November 2012 - 09:56 PM, said:

Never started playing GW2, actually thought about playing it sometime next January.

Realized ANet wanted to make GW2 different from most current MMOs, yet GW1 is more different than GW2 & most MMos.

Therefore, ANet doesn't know what the &$%# they're doing, and so I really don't care.

It's complicated.
only that gw1 was is  not an mmo :P

Edited by blindude, 21 November 2012 - 11:56 PM.


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 11:55 PM

View PostGnomGnomGnom, on 21 November 2012 - 11:47 PM, said:

the fact that you say pillars obstruct your view on kohler is surprising because one of the ways to avoid his pull is to get behind one.

derp

useless players hide behind there and if he goes to far 1 way=OBSTRUCTED VIEW, DERPA DERP DERPY DERP, which means you cant see his ANIMATION, fact 2: evade and staff skill 2, can put you in some awkward spot's(stopped using staff skill 2 for that reason) which lead to OBSTRUCTED view from a pillar. so please make yourself look more *********, since your not posting anything new or relevant, you dont need to post, K, Thanx, Bye.

View Postblindude, on 21 November 2012 - 11:54 PM, said:

only that gw1 was not an mmo :P
um MMO=Massive Multiplayer Online   which gw1 was ;)

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 11:56 PM

Too many bugs, only play spVp and haven't bothered leveling to 80 yet on a main because I know a sea of grinding for gear awaits me.  Gonna wait it out till then.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 11:57 PM

Love it.
Hate that alot of people don't seem to love and that 90% of the game zones are completely dead.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 11:58 PM

View PostVanderBeltLegacy, on 21 November 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

8.Travel cost, dependant on level+distance, it should only be DISTANCE..fact from Trader Forum Way Point-AC way point, level 60 engineer=1.3 silver, level 80 mesmer=3.5 silver, now i know that's not a lot of money, but it's still BS

9.Re-Learning Traits, again not much cost, but, in gw1 it was free to toy with attributes to get a system that worked for you..now since i got what works for my mes, this was a low priority mention/hate.
Those 2 are just gold sinks.
At the start in GW1 you couldnt toy with your attributes freely, it cost skill points to change builds iirc.

My big hate right now is the imo amazingly stupid decision to have people who disconnect unable to re-enter Fractals. Other than that I'm quite happy with the game.




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