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[dawdler]

Nonlinear, on 10 December 2012 - 10:30 PM, said:

It's called Soldiers Armor and I'm pretty sure there is a reason you can't craft it.  I have a little more than 1,850 toughness on my support warrior and my Hammer 1 still hits for 1k/1k/1.5k (2k/2k/3k on crits).  

But this forum would rather stack 2k+ toughness and have their hammer hit for 600/600/1200 so they can heal 1000 hp.  Then after trading off a quarter of their DPS and having fun with their gimmick in CoF runs that take 15 minutes to kill the effigy they complain about how SE path 1 is impossible.

And how often do you get those crit values? Soldiers armour that you refer to is pow/tough/vit. NO crit damage and NO crit chance. And on top of that NO healing. I dont understand how you can claim that knights have "puny heals" when soldiers will heal for *exactly the same* given same armour sets. Sure you can go hybrid, I myself is using 3-4 pieces of Knight (3 armour pieces and the amulet if I recall correctly) and the rest is Berserkers. I also got 1800 toughness, my mace/sheild crits 60-70% of the time for about 1.5K/1.5K/3K or 2K/2K/4K since its easy to stack vouln (also, I heal for 1500 with no set healing power).

But we comparing basic linear sets, are we not? You can otherwise mix and match anything.

In short, assuming two stock comparisons (ie 6 set and un-gemmed trinkets) Knights will have far more crit chance than Soldiers (given that Soldiers would have 0% extra crit chance) and more toughness, while Soldiers would have more hitpoints and more power.

Toughness vs vitality is a bit trickier comparison since its very circumstancial where you "need" one more than the other. I will give the edge to Soldiers there due to the fact Knights have no bonus vitality (just like the crit chance comparison). Most Warriors will however probably agree that toughness beat vitality.

Edited by dawdler, 11 December 2012 - 05:38 PM.

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[Nonlinear]

I've done the math and it doesn't lie so I must concede and eat my crow... knight's 6pc with berserk in everything else gives 3-5% more damage than soldier's, the gap widens slightly the more crit damage or you have.  Soldiers loses 3-5% damage from the loss of crit, trades 91 toughness for 91 power and 224 precision for 224 vitality.

Edited by Nonlinear, 12 December 2012 - 06:31 PM.